May 28 2010, 09:05 AM
That's a very good review and practical too. It's quite surprising to see a recent survey showing IPAD beats netbook in terms of preference. Maybe that's in the usa, but not asia where the price of netbook is much much cheaper if comparing the specs eg. screen size, processor, hdd, etc..
I think the ipad is very suitable for those on the move or travel a lot... requiring wifi/3g, quick start and portability.
As for people like me, daily work/home and usual local routine, it is a cool device to have if have $$$. The 16gb wifi is the max limit for me (US retail price ~rm1600), anything higher specs especially 3G model is an overkill, just to surf, play etc.
Curious, how long does it take to transfer own videos/documents from pc to ipad in terms of MB or GB? Few minutes to upload to net and few minutes back to ipad?
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 28 2010, 02:54 AM)
my experience of netbook/notebook vs ipad:
1) different web pages in tab isn't that difficult, atomic browser or iCab do the job wonderfully. however, you might want to consider more than just tab thingy on browsing webpage on ipad. 256MB on the ipad is so little, i tried loading a single webapge, but it's an image intensive webpage and guess what? iCab can't even load it completely before it quit (iCab will quit if RAM is fully used and exploded).
the mobile safari, in comparison is much better in handling the RAM, but it'll be very annoying when you opened a webpage, leave it open, and surf other webapge on another page. when you come back to the previous webpage, it'll automatically refresh, because the cache already finished and it'll need to dump the oldest cache which is the first page you opened (and very annoying if you want to keep the webpage in its state without refresh or the page will change/updated). and like the above scenario, it'll load the image intensive webpage fine, but expect it to dump the first half of the webpage when you continue to scroll down. if you want to scroll back up again, it'll reload the images, means more battery consumption for data transfer over wifi, or ever worse for 3G where it's more battery intensive and you waste some bandwidth (not that once or twice will make significant difference, but what if you do it often?)...
then, the mobile safari can't support all kinds of encoding, you might end up funny characters even on some chinese webpages. some of the layout are off too, but in general 80%~90% should display correctly.
lacking of flash. hmm. this one depends on you, but i do find lacking flash is a major problem when i try to browse some webpage to acquire important information but they never displayed, and no basic html version available, but that'll be not so common.
also, expect to get frustrated if you're windows explorer based organizer. ipad rely mostly on propriatery library database on each application. some of the playable formats still can play/run if you use iFile (like windows explorer), but some unsupported ones it's quite a hit and miss.
web browsing isn't yet on par with regular full version browser on desktop/laptop, not even close, very sorry to say that. however, checking mail and surfing forums are basically 99.9% problem free.
2) cloud reader is good, and easy to sync via itunes (drag and drop). reading pdf on ipad (if every pages are images) will be slow on page flipping, but no big deal since you'll be stopping on one page for some time (manga, ebook), but zooming won't be smooth and if you just want to flip through the pages, it ain't that fast, kinda sluggish.
however, nothing beats reading ebook/manga on the wonderful screen of the ipad, can't do that on laptops and you wouldn't want to read it on tablets cause they're heavy! the 10inch'ish screen is just nice.
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by the way, i got myself a vaio netbook, size/weight is comparable to ipad, battery is 20%~30% less than ipad (gonna miss that monster battery life!), but still a fantastic mobile device for light task/web surfing. but i still keep my ipad though, and would like to give some comparison/personal views on this for those who cannot decide to get a netbook or ipad like me:
netbook:
+ it's a full OS! virtually, you can do whatever you can do on desktop, given that the netbook has got the power to handle it. playing all sorts of media format, editing files, you name it. can't do that much on ipad!
+ applications are, well, unlimited. i bought a netbook after using the ipad for a while simply because ipad cannot provide the important applications i need for my teaching life. don't get me wrong, ipad is great, but you know, sometimes when you miss an application or two it'll make you want to go back to windows/Mac and how you wish you can install them on ipad.
+ accessories are a bunch for you to choose, from cheapo chaplang brand to high end, deviced from A to Z, you name it.
- not as convenient and straight forward on ipad, but not much of a problem if you're a geek'ish user.
- cannot read in portrait view! you'll have to deal with landscape with *everything*. i tried rotating the view, but some of the laptop screen might look awful in that viewing angle.
- touch screen, yes, unless you're getting tablet, regular netbook/laptop doesn't have touch screen. some of the application like map/GPS is so much easier with touch screen...
ipad:
+ straight forward, and easy to use, perfect for user who love one click install/use that doesn't need to deal with all sorts of installation junks. if you've used itouch/iphone, it's the same.
+ monster battery life! especially for video/web, very rare a netbook come close to that battery life *at the size of ipad*, in fact, none i've seen.
+ fun experiences on ipad games, which some can't be matched using mouse or keyboard.
+ probably your best ebook reader, and portable video player. maybe not so much of a music player as it doesn't last that long, apple said 10 hours battery life is for *anything* you do, so i think you get maybe slightly more than 10 hours of music playback but maybe never more than 15 hours.
+ best light web surfing device. you can surf web while you're lying on the bed, try that with your netbook!
+ highly reasonable price. try to find a device that can have such wonderful screen, can have as long battery life, and still powerful for regular use.
- closed OS, but plenty to cover regular user need. geek'ish user please look else where...
- you can't just stuck a pendriver or hook up a CD driver to transfer medias (camerakit + jailbreak can handle external HDD, though) and you can NEVER manage the itunes library without a computer. you can argue that you can use the above camerakit thingy to do the job and not consider this as disadvantage, but sorry, it's just too much hassle to do just to play some mp3s/video.
- expensive accessories (although there're cheaper althernatives). limited accessory choices too.
to summarize it, get an ipad if you want to have mobile entertainment/light task on the go - manga, ebook, videos, music, some games, organizer etc for extra long battery life. get a netbook/laptop if you want to install various kind of application, and want to have your desktop working environment on the go, and willing to sacrifice battery life (or pay up to 3 times of the price of iPad 3G for ultra portable laptops with long battery life).
so buyers beware of what you're getting, you might end up disappointed like me with such a pretty device at hand and yet cannot do what you want. many people get ipad as an web surfing device which IMVHO a WRONG move. web surfing is only about 10% if what ipad can do. if you buy ipad just to surf web anywhere and never/seldom use other function, think twice. a netbook will do the job much better. and there's a reason why people said ipad is an expensive toy, because very often you're paying quite a bit for something that's half as useful.
that said, iPad is a fantastic mobile device. what it can be done, nothing can touch it yet. but it's just not for everybody...
PS: i don't care if you hate me or my post, if you do, let me know and i shall keep my mouth shut.
1) different web pages in tab isn't that difficult, atomic browser or iCab do the job wonderfully. however, you might want to consider more than just tab thingy on browsing webpage on ipad. 256MB on the ipad is so little, i tried loading a single webapge, but it's an image intensive webpage and guess what? iCab can't even load it completely before it quit (iCab will quit if RAM is fully used and exploded).
the mobile safari, in comparison is much better in handling the RAM, but it'll be very annoying when you opened a webpage, leave it open, and surf other webapge on another page. when you come back to the previous webpage, it'll automatically refresh, because the cache already finished and it'll need to dump the oldest cache which is the first page you opened (and very annoying if you want to keep the webpage in its state without refresh or the page will change/updated). and like the above scenario, it'll load the image intensive webpage fine, but expect it to dump the first half of the webpage when you continue to scroll down. if you want to scroll back up again, it'll reload the images, means more battery consumption for data transfer over wifi, or ever worse for 3G where it's more battery intensive and you waste some bandwidth (not that once or twice will make significant difference, but what if you do it often?)...
then, the mobile safari can't support all kinds of encoding, you might end up funny characters even on some chinese webpages. some of the layout are off too, but in general 80%~90% should display correctly.
lacking of flash. hmm. this one depends on you, but i do find lacking flash is a major problem when i try to browse some webpage to acquire important information but they never displayed, and no basic html version available, but that'll be not so common.
also, expect to get frustrated if you're windows explorer based organizer. ipad rely mostly on propriatery library database on each application. some of the playable formats still can play/run if you use iFile (like windows explorer), but some unsupported ones it's quite a hit and miss.
web browsing isn't yet on par with regular full version browser on desktop/laptop, not even close, very sorry to say that. however, checking mail and surfing forums are basically 99.9% problem free.
2) cloud reader is good, and easy to sync via itunes (drag and drop). reading pdf on ipad (if every pages are images) will be slow on page flipping, but no big deal since you'll be stopping on one page for some time (manga, ebook), but zooming won't be smooth and if you just want to flip through the pages, it ain't that fast, kinda sluggish.
however, nothing beats reading ebook/manga on the wonderful screen of the ipad, can't do that on laptops and you wouldn't want to read it on tablets cause they're heavy! the 10inch'ish screen is just nice.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
by the way, i got myself a vaio netbook, size/weight is comparable to ipad, battery is 20%~30% less than ipad (gonna miss that monster battery life!), but still a fantastic mobile device for light task/web surfing. but i still keep my ipad though, and would like to give some comparison/personal views on this for those who cannot decide to get a netbook or ipad like me:
netbook:
+ it's a full OS! virtually, you can do whatever you can do on desktop, given that the netbook has got the power to handle it. playing all sorts of media format, editing files, you name it. can't do that much on ipad!
+ applications are, well, unlimited. i bought a netbook after using the ipad for a while simply because ipad cannot provide the important applications i need for my teaching life. don't get me wrong, ipad is great, but you know, sometimes when you miss an application or two it'll make you want to go back to windows/Mac and how you wish you can install them on ipad.
+ accessories are a bunch for you to choose, from cheapo chaplang brand to high end, deviced from A to Z, you name it.
- not as convenient and straight forward on ipad, but not much of a problem if you're a geek'ish user.
- cannot read in portrait view! you'll have to deal with landscape with *everything*. i tried rotating the view, but some of the laptop screen might look awful in that viewing angle.
- touch screen, yes, unless you're getting tablet, regular netbook/laptop doesn't have touch screen. some of the application like map/GPS is so much easier with touch screen...
ipad:
+ straight forward, and easy to use, perfect for user who love one click install/use that doesn't need to deal with all sorts of installation junks. if you've used itouch/iphone, it's the same.
+ monster battery life! especially for video/web, very rare a netbook come close to that battery life *at the size of ipad*, in fact, none i've seen.
+ fun experiences on ipad games, which some can't be matched using mouse or keyboard.
+ probably your best ebook reader, and portable video player. maybe not so much of a music player as it doesn't last that long, apple said 10 hours battery life is for *anything* you do, so i think you get maybe slightly more than 10 hours of music playback but maybe never more than 15 hours.
+ best light web surfing device. you can surf web while you're lying on the bed, try that with your netbook!
+ highly reasonable price. try to find a device that can have such wonderful screen, can have as long battery life, and still powerful for regular use.
- closed OS, but plenty to cover regular user need. geek'ish user please look else where...
- you can't just stuck a pendriver or hook up a CD driver to transfer medias (camerakit + jailbreak can handle external HDD, though) and you can NEVER manage the itunes library without a computer. you can argue that you can use the above camerakit thingy to do the job and not consider this as disadvantage, but sorry, it's just too much hassle to do just to play some mp3s/video.
- expensive accessories (although there're cheaper althernatives). limited accessory choices too.
to summarize it, get an ipad if you want to have mobile entertainment/light task on the go - manga, ebook, videos, music, some games, organizer etc for extra long battery life. get a netbook/laptop if you want to install various kind of application, and want to have your desktop working environment on the go, and willing to sacrifice battery life (or pay up to 3 times of the price of iPad 3G for ultra portable laptops with long battery life).
so buyers beware of what you're getting, you might end up disappointed like me with such a pretty device at hand and yet cannot do what you want. many people get ipad as an web surfing device which IMVHO a WRONG move. web surfing is only about 10% if what ipad can do. if you buy ipad just to surf web anywhere and never/seldom use other function, think twice. a netbook will do the job much better. and there's a reason why people said ipad is an expensive toy, because very often you're paying quite a bit for something that's half as useful.
that said, iPad is a fantastic mobile device. what it can be done, nothing can touch it yet. but it's just not for everybody...
PS: i don't care if you hate me or my post, if you do, let me know and i shall keep my mouth shut.
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