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little ice
post May 17 2010, 12:04 AM

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being a first time mobile safari user, i find the annoying part of the safari browser is that it cannot hold more cache or opened page more than 2~3 pages (of average sized webpages).

any other browsers can handle more webpages/tabs remain opened? hmm.gif

EDIT: found iCab, seems like a really good browser and can download virtually any files with the included download manager. biggrin.gif

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post May 17 2010, 12:33 AM

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i tried atomic browser lite, and having the same "problem" as the safari - when i load 2 different loooong webpage with quite a lot of images, it'll take a while to load the images when i scroll up or down. unlike desktop version, all the webpages are cached and available for immediate full view.

any other browser can do this? hmm.gif
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post May 19 2010, 12:59 AM

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I seldom use my ipad online, cause only use it to check mail casually or browse forums, which will last maybe for 10mins lol. I use my iPad in the public only when i need to use it urgently to online. However, I normally will just use my phone to do the task, where urgent things normally will be just emails or forum replies/pm.

The iPad serve me as a fantastic offline device... biggrin.gif

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post May 19 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(applecrazy @ May 19 2010, 01:34 PM)
This looks perfect

http://www.marware.com/products/iPad/Eco-Vue-for-iPad

Anyone seen any m'sian shop selling? (yeah, I know it's a long shot)
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looks a bit thick, still prefer the original ipad case on my ipad... hmm.gif
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post May 19 2010, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(applecrazy @ May 19 2010, 04:37 PM)
ilounge gave it a better rating saying the material is better than apple's. besides, apple's case is sold out everywhere. sad.gif
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it probably is, but i prefer the design of the original case where it can stand upright more stable with that lock thingy at the back. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(pratt @ May 19 2010, 06:58 PM)
On the other hand, yes, the Apple Case attracts too much dusts on the sides so for those with OCD syndrome on cleanliness, its a no no.
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i don't care about the dust, in fact my SC on the ipad is full of fingerprints and i'm not bothered to wipe them off... tongue.gif
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post May 19 2010, 09:51 PM

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guys, if you want to add gps to your wifi model, check out on cydia about:

BTstack GPS

and something like this:

http://www.renoraine.com.my/webshaper/stor...roductItem=1311

and if you have the money, this:

http://reviews.cnet.com/gps-kits/bluetooth...36.html?tag=txt

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post May 20 2010, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(natiayS @ May 20 2010, 12:07 AM)
Can someone make me US iTunes account. I would glad to pay rm50 for it...

Pls pm me. Tq.

Reason: I don't know how to do it, so I can access apps store on my iPad.
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lol what an easy money to earn from you...

sent you PM and my maybank acc# (just kidding! tongue.gif)
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post May 20 2010, 08:09 PM

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Hmm I'm still torn between upgrading to ipad 3g or buy a mifi...

Cause every time need to switch on the darn phone a little troublesome. Also during teaching just now I just happened to need to show him some video so I need to switch on my phone, and afraid if the 3gb limit will run out and maxis will charge me a bomb...

Need to survey the garage sales section again or pre order... sad.gif


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post May 21 2010, 10:28 AM

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EDIT: lol never mind...

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post May 21 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 21 2010, 10:25 PM)
The wifi iPad shouldn't be affected as it doesn't have a compass but I read somewhere the 3G model may have issues with using the compass unless you take it out of the case.
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eh, even the wifi ipad also got ah.

try to locate your location under the google map application and see. biggrin.gif


Added on May 21, 2010, 11:42 pmby the way, i finally decided to go for the ipad 3G upgrade route than the mifi or the netbook i saw (double the price of my ipad even if i ask my japanese friend to import from japan!!!).

will put up my ipad wifi 64GB on sale after i got my ipad 3G. laugh.gif

but if no luck for the ipad 3G then have to buy the netbook...see which one available first, let the fate decide... biggrin.gif

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post May 24 2010, 01:30 AM

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Putting my iPad up on sale, sad to leave this community. Loved the iPad for what it is, but I need a laptop instead... ohmy.gif
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post May 26 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ May 25 2010, 07:14 PM)
From the current observation alone, the iPAd WiFi + MiFi is king, compared to the standalone 3G.

Pros and Cons of the two different version, all IMO of course:-

iPad WiFi + MiFi

+ Battery saver! You have steady power drain because of steady connection between your iPad and the MiFi. Power depletion is much steadier, which gives that peace of mind that you won't run out of power in your daily commute/routine.
+ Depending on the specs of your MiFi, you can now get reasonably accurate position compared to WiFi only position triangulation. This opens up the possibility of using the Wifi-only iPad to navigation.
+ Since the MiFi is with you all the time now, for road warriors using other devices that can tap onto WiFi connection, this provides another option to go online.
+ Aesthethically more pleasing than the 3G, with a clean aluminum back, compared to the black-strip on the 3G model
+ You can reuse your current SIM card on the MiFi without the need to mutilate it further to fit into the 3G SIM tray. The annoyance of having to swap between your phone and the MiFi may be a deterrent to some to do this often. Also, you avoid needing to subscribe to another data package to be use solely for the MiFi.
-  Apps that require GPS positioning, will not be able to take advantage of the WiFi model. This is for future-proofing purposes, for example an app that requires pinpoint accuracy to work, such as location-aware apps, etc.
-  You're carrying two devices instead of all-in-one.
-  Once your MiFi battery power depletes, you're stuck with searching for WiFi hotspots for your connection. Most MiFi solutions last 5 hours *advertised*, and unless you want to bring its charger (add another device), you're stuck without a connection until it is recharged, or you're in another hotspot.

i have another suggestion:
+ It is still possible to use GPS with iPad, as the BTstack not just support the keyboard etc, it also support bluetooth GPS receiver. But you have to jailbreak the iPad, and you cannot use the GPS with other bluetooth device at the same time because BTstack use its own connection manager and cannot work together with iPad's default bluetooth connection manager. Good thing is, bluetooth gps receiver normally have 10hours or more battery life. you can leave it it the car and still be able to use it, and some of them have high accuracy too.
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post May 28 2010, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(lasersharp @ May 27 2010, 05:13 PM)
All bros with iPad.. am considering getting one.  What's your experience using it - I am looking for casual surfing and reading.

1) do you find the inability to open different web pages in tab problematic?

2) are you able to read PDFs - which i intend to do a lot.
Any form of feedback would be helpful.
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my experience of netbook/notebook vs ipad:

1) different web pages in tab isn't that difficult, atomic browser or iCab do the job wonderfully. however, you might want to consider more than just tab thingy on browsing webpage on ipad. 256MB on the ipad is so little, i tried loading a single webapge, but it's an image intensive webpage and guess what? iCab can't even load it completely before it quit (iCab will quit if RAM is fully used and exploded).

the mobile safari, in comparison is much better in handling the RAM, but it'll be very annoying when you opened a webpage, leave it open, and surf other webapge on another page. when you come back to the previous webpage, it'll automatically refresh, because the cache already finished and it'll need to dump the oldest cache which is the first page you opened (and very annoying if you want to keep the webpage in its state without refresh or the page will change/updated). and like the above scenario, it'll load the image intensive webpage fine, but expect it to dump the first half of the webpage when you continue to scroll down. if you want to scroll back up again, it'll reload the images, means more battery consumption for data transfer over wifi, or ever worse for 3G where it's more battery intensive and you waste some bandwidth (not that once or twice will make significant difference, but what if you do it often?)...

then, the mobile safari can't support all kinds of encoding, you might end up funny characters even on some chinese webpages. some of the layout are off too, but in general 80%~90% should display correctly.

lacking of flash. hmm. this one depends on you, but i do find lacking flash is a major problem when i try to browse some webpage to acquire important information but they never displayed, and no basic html version available, but that'll be not so common.

also, expect to get frustrated if you're windows explorer based organizer. ipad rely mostly on propriatery library database on each application. some of the playable formats still can play/run if you use iFile (like windows explorer), but some unsupported ones it's quite a hit and miss.

web browsing isn't yet on par with regular full version browser on desktop/laptop, not even close, very sorry to say that. however, checking mail and surfing forums are basically 99.9% problem free.


2) cloud reader is good, and easy to sync via itunes (drag and drop). reading pdf on ipad (if every pages are images) will be slow on page flipping, but no big deal since you'll be stopping on one page for some time (manga, ebook), but zooming won't be smooth and if you just want to flip through the pages, it ain't that fast, kinda sluggish.

however, nothing beats reading ebook/manga on the wonderful screen of the ipad, can't do that on laptops and you wouldn't want to read it on tablets cause they're heavy! the 10inch'ish screen is just nice.


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by the way, i got myself a vaio netbook, size/weight is comparable to ipad, battery is 20%~30% less than ipad (gonna miss that monster battery life!), but still a fantastic mobile device for light task/web surfing. but i still keep my ipad though, and would like to give some comparison/personal views on this for those who cannot decide to get a netbook or ipad like me:

netbook:
+ it's a full OS! virtually, you can do whatever you can do on desktop, given that the netbook has got the power to handle it. playing all sorts of media format, editing files, you name it. can't do that much on ipad!
+ applications are, well, unlimited. i bought a netbook after using the ipad for a while simply because ipad cannot provide the important applications i need for my teaching life. don't get me wrong, ipad is great, but you know, sometimes when you miss an application or two it'll make you want to go back to windows/Mac and how you wish you can install them on ipad. wink.gif
+ accessories are a bunch for you to choose, from cheapo chaplang brand to high end, deviced from A to Z, you name it.
- not as convenient and straight forward on ipad, but not much of a problem if you're a geek'ish user.
- cannot read in portrait view! you'll have to deal with landscape with *everything*. i tried rotating the view, but some of the laptop screen might look awful in that viewing angle.
- touch screen, yes, unless you're getting tablet, regular netbook/laptop doesn't have touch screen. some of the application like map/GPS is so much easier with touch screen...

ipad:
+ straight forward, and easy to use, perfect for user who love one click install/use that doesn't need to deal with all sorts of installation junks. if you've used itouch/iphone, it's the same.
+ monster battery life! especially for video/web, very rare a netbook come close to that battery life *at the size of ipad*, in fact, none i've seen.
+ fun experiences on ipad games, which some can't be matched using mouse or keyboard.
+ probably your best ebook reader, and portable video player. maybe not so much of a music player as it doesn't last that long, apple said 10 hours battery life is for *anything* you do, so i think you get maybe slightly more than 10 hours of music playback but maybe never more than 15 hours.
+ best light web surfing device. you can surf web while you're lying on the bed, try that with your netbook!
+ highly reasonable price. try to find a device that can have such wonderful screen, can have as long battery life, and still powerful for regular use.
- closed OS, but plenty to cover regular user need. geek'ish user please look else where...
- you can't just stuck a pendriver or hook up a CD driver to transfer medias (camerakit + jailbreak can handle external HDD, though) and you can NEVER manage the itunes library without a computer. you can argue that you can use the above camerakit thingy to do the job and not consider this as disadvantage, but sorry, it's just too much hassle to do just to play some mp3s/video.
- expensive accessories (although there're cheaper althernatives). limited accessory choices too.

to summarize it, get an ipad if you want to have mobile entertainment/light task on the go - manga, ebook, videos, music, some games, organizer etc for extra long battery life. get a netbook/laptop if you want to install various kind of application, and want to have your desktop working environment on the go, and willing to sacrifice battery life (or pay up to 3 times of the price of iPad 3G for ultra portable laptops with long battery life).

so buyers beware of what you're getting, you might end up disappointed like me with such a pretty device at hand and yet cannot do what you want. many people get ipad as an web surfing device which IMVHO a WRONG move. web surfing is only about 10% if what ipad can do. if you buy ipad just to surf web anywhere and never/seldom use other function, think twice. a netbook will do the job much better. and there's a reason why people said ipad is an expensive toy, because very often you're paying quite a bit for something that's half as useful.

that said, iPad is a fantastic mobile device. what it can be done, nothing can touch it yet. but it's just not for everybody...


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post May 28 2010, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(lasersharp @ May 28 2010, 07:37 AM)
Good feedback!  My tasks will be mainly surfing and reading pdfs - moving around the house doing that.  Surfing the web is important so the limitation of iPad doesnt help. Looks like i need a proper macbook pro 13!!
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but then you cannot deny ipad is so easy to carry around and it actually read pdf much more convenient than on laptop, because of the ease of reading pdf in portrait mode. it's going to be a hard decision i tell you, if you start to play around with ipad. brows.gif


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few more things i want to add into my above review:

1. i can't figure out how to choose the streaming quality of the youtube. unlike when you're on desktop version web browser, you can always stream at 360p if you want to have a quick view of the video without the need of full quality. but on ipad it seems to always stream on highest quality. gotta wait for those huge HD streaming videos (unless you're on ipad 3G and streaming 3G network).

2. gotta miss the zooming/panning option on the ipad, works so well on webpages, really make you forgive the screen size cause you'll have no problem viewing anything. can't do that too good on my netbook, it'll lag...

3. mobile safari will fit everything into the screen, means if someone uploaded extra large image on LYN, it'll make everything smaller just to fit the bigger image, instead of viewing in native resolution and leave it up to you to zoom. might not work well for some user...

4. i still haven't found a way to do the "ctrl+f" on the mobile safari like you can do on IE. if you want to search particular words within a webpage, slowly find loh...

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post May 29 2010, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Edoras @ May 29 2010, 06:33 PM)
What kind of device is that?
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a MiFi. wink.gif
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post May 30 2010, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Syncing @ May 29 2010, 11:31 PM)
Somebody got me an iPad, but im not too sure the iPad had much publicity, so can anyone tell me the REAL GOOD sides of an iPad? Thanks.
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being able to play video for 10 hours, or surf web on WiFi for 10 hours (7~8+ hours on 3G), and reading ebooks on a convenient slim device, excellent viewing angle - you can get a fantastic view on virtually any angle within the line of sight (putting it on the table with a magazine cover you'll think it's a real magazine lying on the table.

nothing can quite touch it, yet.
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post May 30 2010, 12:04 PM

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i guess this is what string is talking about...

http://mytechnews.info/b/2010/05/huawei-mi...g-to-maxis.html
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post May 30 2010, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Dust of Enchantment @ May 30 2010, 08:05 PM)
Many people say it's just a giant iPod Touch but Apple actually put in whatever that's missing in iPhone & iPod! It's perfect for business presentations and entertainment on the go!
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yes it is, a giant ipod.

what is missing in ipod/iphone is a big screen, and longer battery life. the rest are the same, well maybe not the rotation lock and better speaker...

i think i'll sell mine since i got a nice netbook to get my daily task done. interested? brows.gif
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post May 30 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Dust of Enchantment @ May 30 2010, 08:50 PM)
It's a great organizer+laptop+iPod minus the size and weight of all those things...
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organizer, ipad, minus the size and weight, yes.

laptop? no.
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post Jun 5 2010, 07:29 PM

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if you want to download any file type, use iCab.

support tab and tons of function. you can even open tab and let it load background while surfing the current page.

but be careful, it can shut down unexpectedly if the memory full.

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