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post May 16 2010, 01:20 PM, updated 16y ago

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Now that the season is TRULY over, in my opinion this poll is conducted at the RIGHT TIME. Not before the FA cup final or before the season is truly over where & when the title was really decided!


IMO Drogba deserves the title even though he missed a month away at Africa Cup. As usual African players are shortchanged (just like Etoo at la Liga) INHO.


So I'm conducting this poll only among us in this forum. I believe us Malaysians & other forum members are fair & can be impartial & can vote with honesty regardless of our club allegiance.


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Similarly thru this poll (which is done in a honest fshion) I'm sounding out whether forum members here can can be mature without flaming each other over difference in opinions.

For example posts 2 & 3 by genuine footie fans (roti-terbakar & lok3i) opinions herein are articulated fairly.

IMO Flaming wars occur when numpties are bereft of opinions & resort to calling names then!

If this is so, then this thread should be rightly closed.

This post has been edited by CityBluePrint: May 16 2010, 11:25 PM
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post May 16 2010, 01:27 PM

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I'll vote for Rooney. He carried Manchester United all the way thru the season. Drogba didn't. Chelsea in fact rely on Kalou and Anelka to goals at the absent of Drogba. Manchester United? Berba? And IDK why you did this pole, maybe disagree what all the writers in England voted for. And TBH I don't really mind Drogba win Player of the Season for LYN Forum. So I voted for Rooney

Not because I have a Rooney signature I'll vote for Rooney,
Not because I'm a Rooney fan since 05,
Not because I'm a Glory Hun-

Oh wait, I am a GH. doh.gif
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post May 16 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ May 16 2010, 01:27 PM)
I'll vote for Rooney. He carried Manchester United all the way thru the season. Drogba didn't. Chelsea in fact rely on Kalou and Anelka to goals at the absent of Drogba. Manchester United? Berba? And IDK why you did this pole, maybe disagree what all the writers in England voted for. And TBH I don't really mind Drogba win Player of the Season for LYN Forum. So I voted for Rooney

Not because I have a Rooney signature I'll vote for Rooney,
Not because I'm a Rooney fan since 05,
Not because I'm a Glory Hun-

Oh wait, I am a GH.  doh.gif
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My honest opinion..

That becoz Man U depend too much on Rooney..one man team..
When Rooney injured, u can see how bad Man U play..

Chelsea in other hand, play as a team..
When Drogba, Mikel and Kalou out to African Cup, Chelsea still maintain
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post May 16 2010, 01:56 PM

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This thread will only create flame war. Please close it. Ty.
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post May 16 2010, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(lok3i @ May 16 2010, 01:41 PM)
My honest opinion..

That becoz Man U depend too much on Rooney..one man team..
When Rooney injured, u can see how bad Man U play..

Chelsea in other hand, play as a team..
When Drogba, Mikel and Kalou out to African Cup, Chelsea still maintain
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Tbh, when they left, you guys were playing against lower league teams.

And I agree with nshady, this again is a stupid thread. Our TS just won't stop. I'm surprised Tevez isn't in the list whistling.gif
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post May 16 2010, 02:07 PM

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Why only 2 options...??? Doesn't mean he score more goals then he deserved the player of the year. I was expecting some GK, MF and DF as well.... This poll is too general and naive IMO.
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post May 16 2010, 02:09 PM

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Fabreagas not in list?


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post May 16 2010, 02:12 PM

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There should be Luka Modric, Cesc Fabregas, Carlos Tevez, James Milner, Pepe Reina tongue.gif
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post May 16 2010, 02:56 PM

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where's macheda ? where's foster ? where's hargreaves ? this poll is just wrong
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Since TS is City fans,Where is my Michael Owen?He scored the winning goal at the 6th minutes stoppage time derby yo!
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post May 16 2010, 03:18 PM

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I can't remember his name, but that Korean guy who plays for Bolton, I think he has been kinda revelation for them this season lah. I vote him.
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post May 16 2010, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ May 16 2010, 03:18 PM)
I can't remember his name, but that Korean guy who plays for Bolton, I think he has been kinda revelation for them this season lah. I vote him.
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Lee Chung Yong right?
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post May 16 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(nshady @ May 16 2010, 03:19 PM)
Lee Chung Yong right?
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I think so la. Everytime I watched he played even for merely 10 minutes or so, I could see him doing something good on the right wing. I dare say everytime. Not that I always watch Bolton la tongue.gif But kinda enough to convince me that he has the talent.
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post May 16 2010, 03:31 PM


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QUOTE(lok3i @ May 16 2010, 11:11 AM)
My honest opinion..

That becoz Man U depend too much on Rooney..one man team..
When Rooney injured, u can see how bad Man U play..

Chelsea in other hand, play as a team..
When Drogba, Mikel and Kalou out to African Cup, Chelsea still maintain
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first.. discussing about Chelsea and Man Utd performance? or about Rooney and Drogba?
if about Rooney and Drogba,so discuss when there are on the team,not the team performance when they out or injured..

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QUOTE(lok3i @ May 16 2010, 01:41 PM)
My honest opinion..

That becoz Man U depend too much on Rooney..one man team..
When Rooney injured, u can see how bad Man U play..

Chelsea in other hand, play as a team..
When Drogba, Mikel and Kalou out to African Cup, Chelsea still maintain
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HAHAHAHAHA nothing to say such this reply.

anyway, personally, i'll vote for Luka Modric!! wub.gif
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Joe Hart for me!!!! Revelation for Birmingham!
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post May 16 2010, 08:05 PM

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post May 16 2010, 08:24 PM

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post May 16 2010, 08:24 PM

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can I vote for some1 else other than the above two?
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post May 16 2010, 09:23 PM

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post May 16 2010, 10:24 PM

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IMO , Drogba is the only player left capable of challenging for the Best Player Title at the tail end (at least 2 more weeks of matches) of the season.

IMO Tevez & Fabregas and the other usual suspects were fairly & rightly ruled out.

My contention here is Drogba's performances at his last 2 games gave him the nod over Rooney. Especially his goal to help Chelsea win the Double. IMO the title should not be awarded prematurely! As we all know the game is not won until the final whistle!

Here we are given the opportunity to vote. If Rooney is deemed worthy to be the Player then so be it. At least we can say it was a FAIR outcome! Right?

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post May 16 2010, 11:22 PM

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Here are some tidbits for Drogba's detractors to cogitate on why we should consider him to be the Player of the Year in the English League on & off the field


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Didier Drogba has joined such iconic figures as Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan in becoming one of the few sportsmen to have appeared on the front cover of Time magazine

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Didier Drogba has joined Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan in becoming one of few sportsmen to have appeared on front cover of Time magazine The Chelsea forward's status, particularly in Africa, has persuaded Time that he is one of the world's 100 most influential people.

"The Time 100 is not about the influence of power but the power of influence. Some of the people you'll encounter on this list are influential in the traditional sense - we also seek out people whose ideas and actions are revolutionising their fields and transforming lives," said Time managing editor Richard Stengel.

Drogba, who will represent the Ivory Coast at this summer's World Cup, appears in the 100 list alongside Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Sachin Tendulkar and Simon Cowell.

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post May 17 2010, 12:12 AM

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more assists, more goals and he only took one penalty throughout the season. even had the time to go for a trip to africa.
didier's the clear winner for me. as some posters mentioned, rooney 'carried' utd in several of their matches when the rest of the team were 'sub-par' so to speak (words from a fair number of utd fans, not mine), whereas drogba has the ability to shine even when he's surrounded by players at the height of their ability. which is a bigger achievement? its subjective.

rooney swept clean the individual honours for the season (except the golden boot of course) and received numerous plaudits, BUT being in england and in a world cup year, i have to say this is very much expected. it makes sense to fill their star player with confidence and give him the proper backing/motivation to spearhead their campaign which is on the horizon. maybe the outcome would've been different if it was in an african league, and english players were the 'imports.' that's my take on it anyway. besides that, didier's inclusion in TIME magazine's 100 most influential people is something to be really proud of, being the only footballer to make the list, highlighting his charity work in africa and particularly ivory coast.

having said that though, congrats on rooney for winning it. he's been different class for utd this season.
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post May 17 2010, 12:20 PM

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drogba hands down
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post May 17 2010, 12:26 PM

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what?!! no rooney? oh wai..
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post May 17 2010, 01:30 PM

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lets see after world cup..the best player in world cup usually will get fifa poty awards..
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post May 18 2010, 09:59 AM

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lee chong yong has been voted bolton best player of season.
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Yo TS, I'm really happy for you and I'm gonna let you finish, but maradonna is teh best footballer of all time!!"

Btw, why onry 2? Should be one person for each club + include every league La Liga + Serie A + Bundesliga etc etc..
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post May 18 2010, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ May 17 2010, 12:12 AM)
more assists, more goals and he only took one penalty throughout the season. even had the time to go for a trip to africa.
didier's the clear winner for me. as some posters mentioned, rooney 'carried' utd in several of their matches when the rest of the team were 'sub-par' so to speak (words from a fair number of utd fans, not mine), whereas drogba has the ability to shine even when he's surrounded by players at the height of their ability. which is a bigger achievement? its subjective.

rooney swept clean the individual honours for the season (except the golden boot of course) and received numerous plaudits, BUT being in england and in a world cup year, i have to say this is very much expected. it makes sense to fill their star player with confidence and give him the proper backing/motivation to spearhead their campaign which is on the horizon. maybe the outcome would've been different if it was in an african league, and english players were the 'imports.' that's my take on it anyway. besides that, didier's inclusion in TIME magazine's 100 most influential people is something to be really proud of, being the only footballer to make the list, highlighting his charity work in africa and particularly ivory coast.

having said that though, congrats on rooney for winning it. he's been different class for utd this season.
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Like you said, its subjective. I can argue from this point of perspective: Since Drogba is surrounded by players of the highest calibre, doesnt that make him getting more support which is of great quality? Lampard and Kalou for example, have been there supporting him. As seen as when Drogba is out, Chelsea still can get people to score, just highlights the support that the midfield and defend of Chelsea can provide. Being surrounded by top class players doesnt mean all the other players go for glory themselves, right? it just shows how much of great support Drogba get throughout the season, and i want to particularly highlight Lampard's contribution to Chelsea this season, IMHO is the greatest contributor, even ahead of Drogba.

In Rooney's case, we have a "sub-par" midfield, and an injury ravaged defence. They have enough to worry about with their own performance, what more to even support Rooney. yet Rooney can still get the most out of what he was provided, and turn them into results. I would also want to mention about the confidence of others he can boost within the team. Without him in the team, at time Man Utd looked clueless. Dunno what to do, dunno who to give the ball to. But with Rooney around, you can see the whole team being lifted spiritually. While it's Giggs and Ferdinand who wore the armband most of the times, Rooney is the "real" leader on the pitch on so many occasions. As for Rooney's award, the biggest he won is the PFA's Player of the year. This award is voted by PLAYERS in the BPL, Championship, League 1 etc etc. It is not controlled by English FA, or by any sports writers out there. So to get voted and acknowledged by your peers, it is something different than to be given the award becauce ENGLAND wants him to get it. Players from other clubs, for example Chelsea, can vote on their own best player, like Drogba. But the fact that Rooney won it, voted by his mates on the field, just highlights the contribution he did on field because after all, these voters are those who played against/with him and saw/felt his contribution, not some journalists who read match reports and statistics.

In a conclusion, for Drogba it is: 1 chance missed, more will come from the calibre-full support. For Rooney, it is: I have to make the most out of it, because it may be the 1 and only chance i've got left.

So, which is the bigger achievement here? Subjective right? wink.gif

No second guessing on who my vote goes to, but that being said, Drogba has been excellent this season rclxms.gif
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fair shout, and solid points all around in highlighting your perspective. the difference rooney makes to united cannot be denied, and i think this season didier wasn't really given or forced into the 'opportunity' of single-handedly trying to drag chelsea to all three points. the tie-breaker can probably be provided by a neutral poster who watched all of utd and chelsea's matches this season, for an in-depth player analysis. unfortunately, i don't think the people here on football lounge have THAT much free time on their hands. laugh.gif

my apologies for failing to explain a little further on the awards rooney received, but i was referring more to the Football Writers Association award which is decided by football journalists based around england. As for the PFA you mentioned, yes it was voted by fellow professionals, but the outcome might (with the emphasis on 'might') have been slightly different if the voting was conducted throughout the season.
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drogba performance mainly come frm big games which he really shine and help chelsea win the title..
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ May 18 2010, 12:22 PM)
Like you said, its subjective. I can argue from this point of perspective: Since Drogba is surrounded by players of the highest calibre, doesnt that make him getting more support which is of great quality? Lampard and Kalou for example, have been there supporting him. As seen as when Drogba is out, Chelsea still can get people to score, just highlights the support that the midfield and defend of Chelsea can provide. Being surrounded by top class players doesnt mean all the other players go for glory themselves, right? it just shows how much of great support Drogba get throughout the season, and i want to particularly highlight Lampard's contribution to Chelsea this season, IMHO is the greatest contributor, even ahead of Drogba.

In Rooney's case, we have a "sub-par" midfield, and an injury ravaged defence. They have enough to worry about with their own performance, what more to even support Rooney. yet Rooney can still get the most out of what he was provided, and turn them into results. I would also want to mention about the confidence of others he can boost within the team. Without him in the team, at time Man Utd looked clueless. Dunno what to do, dunno who to give the ball to. But with Rooney around, you can see the whole team being lifted spiritually. While it's Giggs and Ferdinand who wore the armband most of the times, Rooney is the "real" leader on the pitch on so many occasions. As for Rooney's award, the biggest he won is the PFA's Player of the year. This award is voted by PLAYERS in the BPL, Championship, League 1 etc etc. It is not controlled by English FA, or by any sports writers out there. So to get voted and acknowledged by your peers, it is something different than to be given the award becauce ENGLAND wants him to get it. Players from other clubs, for example Chelsea, can vote on their own best player, like Drogba. But the fact that Rooney won it, voted by his mates on the field, just highlights the contribution he did on field because after all, these voters are those who played against/with him and saw/felt his contribution, not some journalists who read match reports and statistics.

In a conclusion, for Drogba it is: 1 chance missed, more will come from the calibre-full support. For Rooney, it is: I have to make the most out of it, because it may be the 1 and only chance i've got left.

So, which is the bigger achievement here? Subjective right?  wink.gif

No second guessing on who my vote goes to, but that being said, Drogba has been excellent this season  rclxms.gif
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u dun have to undermine united capabilities just to show how good rooney is.. i need to remind u that we scored 80 plus goals this season.. it's not like we only won 1-0 every game now and then

chelsea opted to attack all the time since ancelotti knew their defence is not good as they used to be, that's why they scored 100++ goals this season.. we (united) closed up the shop after leading 2 or 3 goals, we just simply do just enough to win.. credit to chelsea for the attacking plays
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rooney , for having the balls to play even with injuries.
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