fakers are really fast

KB is indeed really cheap when they have crazy clearance sales

You can also buy at wiggysports if you can't wait to get hold of it before the new season start

http://www.wiggysports.co.uk/pl_09-10_champions_badges.html

The NNs is authentic but replica size

IMO, i don't think the words behind the badge really helps to against the fake though, more works have to be done

Nope, you can't in terms of correct style and season

Yes, you can in terms of personal preference

The 07/08 UCL Champions starball was used on season 08-09 only while the CWC Patch was used on season 08-09 and 09-10

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Added on May 30, 2010, 7:31 pmWow, 2 PI's from eBay
What is the version of your away 06-07? UCL or BPL?

This post has been edited by lit_ching: May 30 2010, 07:31 PM

the real madrid club crest just like a sun

Stain Devil's or Dylon Stain Remover, you can try to search at Ace Hardware, Tesco, Jusco, etc

totally i agree with you, i will also do the same if the shirt is really rare or hard to find, please bear in mind some fake NNs are really difficult to remove as well, not like lextra or senscilia

Based on previous qualifying matches and match played yesterday against Zimbabwe, Kaka was wearing #10, so most probably he will wears #10 in the world cup too

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Added on June 3, 2010, 4:24 amAllow few days for them to process. Refund is simple, how you paid, how they refund

This post has been edited by lit_ching: Jun 3 2010, 04:24 AM

Nice one, you have fun when collecting jerseys as well as you need to have fund to collect jerseys

If you are using International Signed for, generally it will be fine, anyway, its not encourage to discuss this issue here in respect of other Taiko's guidelines

awesome, completed with patches on both sleeves, it must cost you a bomb

Fantastic player issue you have, looks like BPL version to me

They should have condemn fake jerseys rather than giving exposure for fake jerseys, a bit like encouraging to me with the price quoted, sigh

IMO, i have different observation, may be i'm not smart enough. Its sad that people in Malaysia have to buy expensive jerseys if they don't know its cheaper outside. I wonder how much profit margin for Nike and Adidas, etc, that is the key factor that put people off to buy an original jersey in our country's.

Imagine in UK, take factory operator as example, their minimum hourly pay 5 years back was roughly £5.2, but their brand new jersey during that time only cost about £30, 6 hrs work and you can get an original jersey.

How about in Malaysia? How much a factory operator earn per day? RM 20? Do your maths to get an original shirt. Sorry to say, those big time manufacturer, retailer is the one who acting like vampire, what is the manufacturing cost of a piece of jersey? Why they move their factory to place like China, Thailand, etc but not UK, Germany, US, etc. Hopefully they earn small small profit enough since they are big enough, don't be too greedy, let people in Malaysia have chance to own original stuff within our budget.

Its shame that some people saying white but doing black, which is unethical. I wonder how much the retailer here earn for every one piece of jersey or NNs sold? My guess is nearly 100% since they are big enough, may be some of the senior here can give some idea

Sorry, may be my english is not good enough. In the perspective of manufacturer, i do agree that they spend a lot of money, work, etc to produce a new product and they deserved on what they earn in some way. In terms of profit, manufacturers have the highest percentage of profit ratio only as they sell in bulk. As for retailers, they have better profit margin for every single item they sell.

No wonder suddenly got a lot of 07-08 patches able to sell at RM50-70 last time, i only able to sell it at about RM80-90, just like those stores in BB. Sorry to say, is it only JC's have the right to buy the patch at £2-3? How about other Malaysians who must buy at RM89 if they don't know about this offer and now they have chance to get at RM50-70, are those people sucking blood by selling at RM 50-70? Of course, i must admit that if those people misused the information provided by senior member or anyone else to gain their own profit, this is totally unacceptable and unethical. If my memory serves me right, how much is the WCC patch did the shops in BB sell in one particular time? I have got a friend who bought at RM 80 (need to double check again, but i am sure it was pretty expensive). Later we went to a shop in Pertama, they only sold it at RM 49, so how? May be those in BB got their stock at higher price so they have to sell it at even higher price. How much does Wiggy's sell? £4! What is the cost of this patch, roughly £3-4 for small business owner, £1-3 for big business owner. Wow, with my mathematic calculation, that’s a profit margin of nearly 2 to 3 folds by taking exchange rate of £1 = RM 6 last time for those in BB.
So are they profit hunter?

So by looking at Malaysian limited purchasing power, isn’t that those big players in this industry in Malaysia should be much more ethical towards their profit margin? Sharing information is good among jersey collector’s, but how many of you really willing to share the information when the item’s is what you want but temporary couldn’t afford to buy? May be I am too honest; I wouldn’t share if the shirt or patch is what I want although I still haven’t buy it but I will definitely share my limited knowledge on jersey collections matters. Most people will only share if that particular item he/she already have, not their interest, true friendship. Take an example, anyone of you willing to share if you find 3 pieces of 96-03 starball if you couldn’t afford to buy immediately and only able to buy after 1 month?

What really shock me are some people when they might not able get the patch or any stuff they want. They can simply use their power to accuse you for misdoing and thought they are the only one that have information and able to source. Even worst, they still can do whatever they like without even dare to give any reason, to reply and the worst scenario is still able to speak nicely, may be they are afraid of interest being challenge or protecting themself since competition might arise. This is really scary to be honest, say one thing but do differently. All these are behind the scene, scary of the monopoly attitude, now I even heard that price has been increase, this is so called genuine collectors. God bless

@air_mood: weak £ as comparing to last time, may be you can do your maths yourself, hehe. I think should be lower than those in BB or quite reasonable based on my cost. Besides, you may ask other seller’s here as well how much is their profit margin

Hopefully i might have chance to buy from a HK seller selling respect and Europa patch at price of about £60 although the actual cost of the patch is roughly £2-3 only, someone have to say no to him as well, haha.

My 2 cents, take it easy

Sorry to say, comparing with manufacturer to justify the profit earn and no hard work done? My english has made people misunderstood again. The manufacturer example is taking into consideration why the cost of a jersey in M'sia cost RM 259, a WCC patch cost RM80, while we don't have enough purchasing power comparing with those develope countries. This is the main factor which deter people from buying authentic product IMO. They(manufacturer) deserved to earn the money for their effort, but in how many folds they have got by setting up their factory in China, etc, how much the operator earn per day? The actual comparison is with those who operate in M'sia market but still selling at exorbitant price even a particular item isn't rare at all. There is a group of seller's who are really generous enough to offer good price because they already made promise to try to keep the price lower, but is for certain items only, if not, this is a kind of unethical practice and can't sleep well at night. Sadly for Subside's, Wiggy's, Kitbag's, they have to classify as not kind of generous seller's for some of their stuffs on sale although they do have good deals as well.

Between, if my information is correct, there will be new starball for the new season

That is a big disappointment, sold an DIY stuff but claimed it as original, anyway, if you are happy to apply it, there isn't any problem



[QUOTE]looks abit weird to me. not so nice right?
feels like PSG kit, cos of the emirates

anyway back to the topic, let's just leave it at that la.
no need to start argueing here and all.
each of us have our own opinions. so not much use trying to force it on anyone.
lyn is not a my-fjc. so let's just get back to sharing about jerseys alrite.

btw, world cup sucks
all the matches has been boring thus far.
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The 3rd kit look stunning, nice new kit

Haha, better leave it, back to topic, glad that here is lyn, no scary manipulating

i quite enjoy match between south africa and mexico, you attack me, i attack you

This post has been edited by lit_ching: Jun 13 2010, 11:50 PM

I see, didn't watch the game between Korea and Greece, i only watch the goals highlight, our Mr. Park scored a pretty nice solo run

selling a set of single digit world cup NNs at RM99 in certain big shops really have pretty good profit margin of nearly 150% with their negotiation power, only one word can descibe as well, vampire

Some shop is selling at about RM90, quite a good profit margin too, nearly 100% although their size is smaller with less overhead cost, no advertisement, etc are they consider as profit hunter? I think not, they are ethical seller according what i read so far.

I feel quite sympathy to those who sell the Man Utd UCL 07-08 Champions patch at RM 50-70 if they find the great deal themself comparing to those big stores selling at RM89 per piece. I totally beaten by them with my price of RM80-90 per piece with my cost. They are being categorised as profit hunter while the others are not because some of them couldn't get the deal and start to blame people for stealing the deal, affecting them to complete their collections, accuse people of using their information. Yes, they earn may be so many fold, but the price is still within the range, pity them.

I remember that i bought a man utd champions league final moscow with G11 back last year at the cost of RM550 from a fellow forumer, if i not mistaken, man utd megastore was selling at about £40-50 only which is about RM300. Should i category him as profit hunter? Nope, why, i blamed myself for being late, didn't put my effort to secure the deal earlier, so this is the cost i have to pay. Don't blame people, environment, luck, god if you can't make it yourself. Is he a jersey collector, i think so, is it expensive? In his mind, its fair, in my mind, its fair, so the deal has done.

Why you buy jersey in kitbag? I am sure most of us will say its really cheap than buying in MY, RM259 per piece, so expensive. How much does kitbag sell for a piece of Man Utd home shirt during sales? RM120 including shipping? This is what so call arbitrage, so you yourself is the only one can take the advantages for own use, other people shouldn't take the advantages for selling at the price lower than MY, but you blame them as profit hunter? Sorry, i totally don't understand

Just my 2 cents, take it easy

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Added on June 14, 2010, 5:55 pmIts pity that you have got fellow forumer in same forum with you taking advantage off you who you trust to buy the shirt from you for collections purpose, not for resell purpose. This is to me, unethical. If he said he bought from you for resell, sorry to say, i don't think there is any problem, its too vague in terms of price valuation although there is some general standard. How much do you rate for a Man Utd Champions League Final Winners 2 star suppose worth? I will say RM300, some may say RM200, some may say RM250, no one is correct.

Just my 2 cents, take it easy

This post has been edited by lit_ching: Jun 14 2010, 05:55 PM