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TSAhGuan
post May 16 2010, 02:48 AM, updated 16y ago

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Asperger syndrome is one of the autism spectrum disorders, and is classified as a developmental disorder that affects how the brain processes information. People with Asperger syndrome can show a wide range of behaviours and social skills, but common characteristics  include difficulty in forming friendships, communication problems (such as an inability to listen or a tendency to take whatever is said to them literally), and an inability to understand social rules and body language.

There is no cure and no specific treatment. Asperger syndrome doesn't improve, although experience helps to build up coping skills. Social training, which teaches how to behave in different social situations, is generally more helpful than counselling.
Typical adult symptoms

More males than females have Asperger syndrome. While every person who has the syndrome will experience different symptoms and severity of symptoms, some of the more common characteristics include:

    * Average or above average intelligence
    * Inability to think in abstract ways
    * Difficulties in empathising with others
    * Problems with understanding another person's point of view
    * Hampered conversational ability
    * Problems with controlling feelings such as anger, depression and anxiety
    * Adherence to routines and schedules, and stress if expected routine is disrupted
    * Inability to manage appropriate social conduct
    * Specialised fields of interest or hobbies.

The emotions of other people

A person with Asperger syndrome may have trouble understanding the emotions of other people, and the subtle messages that are sent by facial expression, eye contact and body language are often missed. Because of this, a person with Asperger syndrome might be seen as egotistical, selfish or uncaring. These are unfair labels, because the affected person is neurologically unable to understand other people's emotional states. They are usually shocked, upset and remorseful when told their actions were hurtful or inappropriate.
Being a partner and parent

Some affected people can maintain relationships and parent children, although there are challenges. Dutch research suggests that the divorce rate for people with Asperger syndrome is around 80 per cent.

A common marital problem is unfair distribution of responsibilities. For example, the partner of a person with Asperger syndrome may be used to doing everything in the relationship when it is just the two of them. However, the partner may need practical and emotional support once children come along, which the person with Asperger syndrome is ill equipped to provide. When the partner expresses frustration or becomes upset that they're given no help of any kind, the person with Asperger syndrome is typically baffled. Tension in the relationship often makes their symptoms worse.


Hmm.....for adult...actually where to get diagnose for Asperger syndrome? any government hospital or have to go to any mental institutes for that??
Any1 got any suggestion??
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post May 16 2010, 10:24 AM

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any hospital with psychiatrist..
hurm u wan to get diagnose or u wan to get someone diagnosed?
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post May 16 2010, 10:50 PM

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its not easy to diagnose , i visited a special needs centre and many of the children looks just fine .
experience is important

can consult a pediatrician

edit : or psychiatrist , think many hospital has it... no ?

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post May 16 2010, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(FooH @ May 16 2010, 10:50 PM)
its not easy to diagnose , i visited a special needs centre and many of the children looks just fine . 
experience is important 

can consult a pediatrician

edit : or psychiatrist  , think many hospital has it... no ?
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what about adult.....hehe....
coz wht i notice, in Malaysia, we seems like doesn't are much about mental health la..especiallt dislexia, discalculia, asperger and autism.......very different from overseas country.....
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post May 16 2010, 11:16 PM

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yup , i ve read several articles and news saying awareness is very low , problem is its not life threatening then they will give the tak apa attitude , or worse still waste money on funny funny alternative treatments .

better go find psychiatrist .

hope she is ok = )
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post May 17 2010, 04:51 AM

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Your should define your question more clearly, is that an established diagnosis for someone you know or you wish to seek second opinion from the internet? (which is not a good idea)

Asperger syndrome is very rare it is often a diagnosis of exclusion when the rest of common disease has been ruled out.

If you suspect some children to have very strange behaviour, consult a paediatrician first, before you go and see a psychiatrist.

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post May 17 2010, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(klifex @ May 17 2010, 04:51 AM)
Your should define your question more clearly, is that an established diagnosis for someone you know or you wish to seek second opinion from the internet? (which is not a good idea)

Asperger syndrome is very rare it is often a diagnosis of exclusion when the rest of common disease has been ruled out.

If you suspect some children to have very strange behaviour, consult a paediatrician first, before you go and see a psychiatrist.
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Well, I'm not seeking diagnosis for me or someone else, I've just watched a documentary and followed by reading some articles regarding asperger/autism syndrome among the adults. Apparently, those who had these syndrome are successful later in their life, what's special with them is, they are very bright at certain topic ie. science, maths, language, art. Different person with asperger might not have the same interest, but if they are allowed and encouraged to do whatever that they can utilize their talent, they'll be succeeded.

Just wonder if the health service in Malaysia really have specialties in diagnosis these kind of syndrome for adult and find out what's their ability is.

i.e. I think the current education system here are actually killing the interest and creativity of autism and asperger children.
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post May 17 2010, 02:45 PM

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asperger is very hard to diagnose
on the other hand. for autism... the NGO groups and all existed. and been given much attention also.. u never hear doesnt mean it does not exist
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post May 18 2010, 08:34 PM

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Dr House in House MD is thought to have it.
If u r sthg like him, u may have the syndrome.
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post May 26 2010, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(ngohieng @ May 18 2010, 08:34 PM)
Dr House in House MD is thought to have it.
If u r sthg like him, u may have the syndrome.
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Nah..asperger's syndrome is not arrogance syndrome. The main problem with people having aspies is they will have social interaction problem. Also have bad sense of logic. The kind of intelligence and logical sense that you see in House MD does not show signs of aspies.

Anyway, my son have aspies and I am looking for some support group. Seems like aspies is still very new in Malaysia and there are only like one facebook group only. And I don't do facebook. I would prefer something like a support group where all the parents or people with aspie can gather and exchange experience.

Since aspies is one of the spectrum of autism, there are no cure for it. People who says can cure aspergers is only bullshhitting.

Ritalin does seems to help as it will make a person more focus. But some people said ritalin have side effects and even death. I see the sideeffects as being really low because death cases seems to occur like less than 10 for the history of ritalin intake for so many years and by over millions of people.

Those adults who need to stay focus for like a term or two through exams or university can go for ritalin. It does help a lot with the concentrations.

As for my son, we have stopped giving him ritalin. He is doing physical therapies now and I will only let him take ritalin if that therapy doesn't help.
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post May 26 2010, 04:04 PM

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the sympttoms are very much like ADD.
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post May 26 2010, 04:15 PM

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ADD, ADHD, Asperger, Autism, Dyslexia, Discalculia and Disgraphia r all known as LD-Learning Disability

hmm...is there any much difference??
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post May 26 2010, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(AhGuan @ May 26 2010, 04:15 PM)
ADD, ADHD, Asperger, Autism, Dyslexia, Discalculia and Disgraphia r all known as LD-Learning Disability

hmm...is there any much difference??
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ADD ADHD is the same
Asperger Autism is a separate entity
as for Dyslexia discalculia disgraphia is more like symptoms
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post May 27 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(AhGuan @ May 26 2010, 04:15 PM)
ADD, ADHD, Asperger, Autism, Dyslexia, Discalculia and Disgraphia r all known as LD-Learning Disability

hmm...is there any much difference??
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Yes, they do have a lot of difference. Some people have one symptom and some have combination of a few. That is why these problems are hard to diagnose especially when a person combination of them.

For example, one kid may be quiet, and does not response much to people. Another might be running around making noise and talking to everyone he/she encounters. How can you say they are suffering some same type of problem? They are both suffering from different end of the autism spectrum. Being able to identify each of the symptom means the ability to provide specified stimulant or "cure". At the same time, not giving the wrong type of treatment which may cause more harm than good.
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post Jun 12 2010, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ May 26 2010, 03:47 PM)
Nah..asperger's syndrome is not arrogance syndrome. The main problem with people having aspies is they will have social interaction problem. Also have bad sense of logic. The kind of intelligence and logical sense that you see in House MD does not show signs of aspies.

Anyway, my son have aspies and I am looking for some support group. Seems like aspies is still very new in Malaysia and there are only like one facebook group only. And I don't do facebook. I would prefer something like a support group where all the parents or people with aspie can gather and exchange experience.

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how did ur son get diagnosed?

it's quite terrible in msia that learning disabilities are not recognised and those with severe cases of it are subjected to ridicule and segregated.

i had some primary schoolmates (disruptive, hyperactive, low attention spans types) who were given special coaching by teachers during normal classes separately but we did overhear how the teachers scolded them "bodoh", "malas", "kontol" etc. it was quite shocking to hear those words although i can see how it can be funny to 8-10yr-olds too.
i didn't think they were mentally incapable of understanding conversations (mostly) or unable to function normally (as in, mentally incapacity to even learn fast like Down's or those level of disabilities) from my interactions with them. it was more like, they were disinterested or easily distracted. also, the lack of understanding of their conditions leads to unability to give them the proper guidance and coaching as their learning process are much much different.

rote learning is ald very taxing for the most of us. what more for children with more learning hurdles to get past! (thus, it is with much distaste and disbelief when the govt announced the plans to launch public pre-schools when the present system is in shambles)

needless to say, they didn't do very well in UPSR. but our education system still send them to secondary school after failing to equip them with basic literacy skills (reciting A-Z, stringing simple sentences, counting 1-100)

amazingly, some even managed to get past PMR then SPM. still without the ability to recite A-Z. sweat.gif

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post Jun 17 2010, 05:37 PM

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Those who managed to excel in the cruel academic world managed to get the career that they are highly interested in...

Those who are not.....failed in their career life, even they r so bright.......
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QUOTE(lexiqa @ Jun 12 2010, 06:56 AM)
how did ur son get diagnosed?

it's quite terrible in msia that learning disabilities are not recognised and those with severe cases of it are subjected to ridicule and segregated. 

i had some primary schoolmates (disruptive, hyperactive, low attention spans types) who were given special coaching by teachers during normal classes separately but we did overhear how the teachers scolded them "bodoh", "malas", "kontol" etc. it was quite shocking to hear those words although i can see how it can be funny to 8-10yr-olds too.
i didn't think they were mentally incapable of understanding conversations (mostly) or unable to function normally (as in, mentally incapacity to even learn fast like Down's or those level of disabilities) from my interactions with them.  it was more like, they were disinterested or easily distracted. also, the lack of understanding of their conditions leads to unability to give them the proper guidance and coaching as their learning process are much much different.

rote learning is ald very taxing for the most of us. what more for children with more learning hurdles to get past! (thus, it is with much distaste and disbelief when the govt announced the plans to launch public pre-schools when the present system is in shambles)

needless to say, they didn't do very well in UPSR. but our education system still send them to secondary school after failing to equip them with basic literacy skills (reciting A-Z, stringing simple sentences, counting 1-100)

amazingly, some even managed to get past PMR then SPM. still without the ability to recite A-Z.  sweat.gif
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I agree, the exposure of such learning disabilities especially on teachers are appalling. Ministry of Education should make it compulsory for teachers to know about various types of learning disabilities. Some teachers are clueless about these and they don't even bother to find out.

Problem with this is, there are no cure for them. You can only understand their problems and try to use different method of teaching them. If only someone would setup some sort of group with month gathering where parents or kids/adults with this problem can meet up.
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post Jul 27 2010, 12:04 AM

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I wonder how it would be for an aspie to work in the field that's not of their interest.....
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is it related to critical dyslexia ?

my thread here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=54782116
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Why are people only talk about children when discussing about autism support? Let's talk about support for adult asperger too!

 

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