In the process of looking for a replacement point-of-entry (POE) outdoor water filter, I came across this filter that is being sold in Jusco outlets. - UE-tec

- The filter comes in 2 different tank materials - FRP tank and Vacuum moulding polymer tank.
- There is an option of auto or manual backwashing
- The filter comes in various flow rates (thus the different in tank sizes)


You can refer to this link for more information. www.ue-tec.com

Does anyone have problem in using UE-tec outdoor filter?
Would like to know of any honest negative feed back if there is any.

This post has been edited by kelvyn: May 16 2010, 05:55 PM

What's the price range?
what's the media inside?

I'm looking for one also.

come across DELCOL brand and dunno any good or not for this brand.

The price is dependent on the tank construction material (i.e. FRP or vacuum moulding polymer tank) and the tank size ( 30 l/m, 33 l/m, 35 l/m or 38 l/m) From what I can recall, I think it ranges from below 1k up to 2.1k


If not mistaken, the media should be Silica sand and Zeolite media

hi bro...i am selling delcol brand...

maybe u can give me ur specification? i can quote u ur ideal price

What is the specification?

Correct me if I am wrong. I think Delcol water filter has the active carbon in its system. I am referring to the outdoor POE unit.

Carbon is used to remove chlorine, smell and taste.
Manganese Greensand is used to reduce iron level which causes rust smell and yellowish colour in tap water.
Zeolite is used to reduce the hardness of the water.


You should not remove the chlorine from the main if you have a storage tank in the house. This is because the tank stores water for many days and it is going to become paradise for bacterial without chlorine.
You should install the chlorine filter right before the water comes out from the water tap in the kitchen.

bro like ur water billing consumption for past 3 months in order to get the right size....

RFP tank? Stainless Steel ? Auto? Manual ?

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Added on May 15, 2010, 1:14 pmthose outdoor filter can be customize...

well if u think this way, we can remove active carbon for u and replace something else...

normally those water filter can put up to 5-6 different sand....seldom we put zeolite inside...

but if u wan it ur way...we dont mind customize it for u

This post has been edited by maru: May 15 2010, 01:14 PM

Use the puregen UF2500, personally i have use diamond water filter before. Cost me about RM 2,800, starting use feel ok. However later you can see the indoor drinking filter the filter is yellowish a bit. Inside i also using diamond watre filter. It is because i am diamond dealer before. Why like that, it is because diamond master filter micro is 10 micro but UF2500 is 0.01 micro. So who is cleaner of couse UF 2500. However the filter will more dirty so is easy to stuck. How to solve it? The filter will auto clean every 3 or 6 hour. It either use battery or connect to auto gate system. Of course autogate is more convenient no need change battery after it flat. Auto flush just normal wash, you still need to manual wash every month, just turn on the switch only.

So what is the price. IS only RM 1,400 with installation and the auto system. Before using this product still wanted install diamond master filter. After use this product and love it so much. No only save cost but also can filter the dirt. My father is the contractor, and we are selling the filter as well. Frankly speaking don;t try the micro 10 filter or the sand. Compare to puregen UF2500, is a big different.

If you want to order can PM me? I will call you soon.

limwc78,

autowash every 3-6 hours???
like that mah use / waste a lot of water?

you can set to auto wash 6 hours, is only 30 seconds. Not waste you a lot of water.

maybe u can email me some details? chewpeng_79@yahoo.com

Connect to Auto Gate? WHat happen if lightning strike? Gone also?

Hi limwc78,

Can you PM me the specs?

Thank you.

you have a good point there.

So, since storage tank water can contain bacteria without chlorine, then is it OK if we only wash and bath using it? And drinking water comes separately direct from mains to another filter in kitchen just for drinking only.

I got a UF filter with auto backwash at RM1,500. It is slim, and flow rate very good. I was concerned about the flow rate, but after installing, so far so good. 5 months ady, and the filter is set to self clean at midnite daily.

My brother the one who use their service and then recommend me. U can go visit the website www.waterexpress.com.my. The name of the boss is Edison.

just bought FRP smallest tank (manual backwash) from jusco..1 week old..so far the water is clear wif heavy mineral taste..wil report back if has any unusual thngy..btw i bought the package tat comes wif bio-energy (indoor) system, contractor wil come install it today..price is 1199 (not inclusive of additional service $$ from contractor upon installation). initially the promoter claim all installation fee is waived but u knw, contractor wil hav oth say, anyhow the service quite good..

p/s:their homepage sucks..

My view is that you don't really need to auto back wash daily or even need to pay for the auto back wash feature. Unless the water supply is not treated before hand or the filter system itself is not efficient. There is lots of water wastage in the back washing process.
I would prefer the manual back wash in which only back wash when needed. You could direct the back washing water for watering of your plants & lawn.

I have learnt a lot about POE from this thread. Ty.

So, conclusion is if have water tank prefer to not have POE with active carbon because it will remove all the chlorine.

Conclusion also I would prefer to have a manual backwash so there is no water wastage. Just take a couple of minutes of your time right? but you can save many liters of water!!

In conclusion, any good after service company for this requirement that you would recommend?

The POE filters does not really requires much after sales service. For the manual backwash type, it should be trouble free. Just need to manual backwash when the water flow is low.

for POE head, is that necessary to change to Stainless steel instead of use Febra (original) type?
IF, the Febra head KO, than only change tp stainless steel is that OK?

IMHO, just use the one that comes with the POE filter. No point spending extra to change ...

Is not the stainless steel type will last longer? Or only change it after KO will be the same cost as changing from initial?

For my previous POE filter with the non stainless steel type, it lasted me more than 6 years before it started leaking. I really don't know how much if changing to the stainless steel type will cost.

Oh...so it break after 6 years? which brand is that?
what you do after that? Get the new POE?

This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Nov 13 2011, 10:14 AM

Was using the waterco previously. Now using GE

Thanks. Will decide on POE without auto backwash. But now it is between membrane or sand.

For POE, membrane will be too fine filtration. I would reckon for POE, sand filter will do. No need membrane. You should read up more and you will understand what I meant

kelvyn, so u decided on ur outdoor filter?

i am also looking, dunno membrane or those many layers(rock) filters better suited..my condo have too much sand/stone coming in. clogging up all my taps, every 2 days need to open and wash. so mah fan.

i was looking at alphamax since they have like many many counters all over kl, but it wasn't cheap..and is too big to be installed at the walkway.

You can install POE in a condo? Where would your backwash water flow to?

I am using a sand filter. From what I learned, the membrane will clog up much easier.
But, since you are staying in a condo, you may have to use the membrane type as the filter is much smaller compared to the sand filter. I really wonder how you are going to discharge the backwash water....

I am using Bacfree and it is really good. However, only issue is that the water pressure will be lower due to the POE filter. But i am getting really clean water and easily backwash filter.

I'm looking for an outdoor filter too. Was told that sand filtration will cause contamination and mix together with the sands eventually. See this:

http://www.diamond.com.my/diamond_master_filter.htm

How true? Or just a marketing strategy?

Got it bro. So i assume all vendors providing sand will be fairly similar. Thanks.

Just be careful about the active carbon that some suppliers put in. You could always insist that this is omitted. Some supplier will place a small amount.

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Added on November 15, 2011, 4:09 pmHave you seen how to wash the filter media? It is in a roll form. Cleaning is quite messy, IMHO.
Anyway, do check them out then only decide.

This post has been edited by kelvyn: Nov 15 2011, 04:09 PM

wdarke and kelvyn, yes dunno about the backwash. but if really do backwash, there's like a small longkang..so water can flow there. I guess i just don't do it while ppl are walking around in the walkway. Then just mop it dry after backwash.

i think sand filter is more suitable right, for my case to keep out the stones/sands? is it possible to get something below 1k?

the other thing is..can't install big filters in condo, as it takes up space in the walkway.

@Adele,
Sand filters are quite bulky. Have not come across one that is very slim and does not take up space of the walkway for the condo. You may want to discuss with the suppliers and see what they can propose.

You may want to check where your main water pipe are from, because only old flat or apartment are near front door else it should somewhere near your kitchen area...

If near kitchen area, then better chance to make some simple piping diversion and can install the filter either in the kitchen or drying yard.

Have been to an apartment where behind the water meter compartment wall is the kitchen. So, make 2 small holes and have the filter install just behind.

This Diamond now having offer with only RM699 excluded installation, or RM850 (with installation), really cheap compared to original price as RM2500+...

Almost every 2 years the filter media need to be replace which part itself cost around RM350 but not sure already included label or not, and every year service which around RM80

Is this good and any comment of it?

Else I will just go for Sand filter type.....

I had taken a look at that filter before deciding on the sand filter.

Yah...what it meant???

Did u ever think why Diamond will reduce the price from RM 2k+ to RM 699? By doing this, their existing customers who bought at RM 2k+ will definitely b shouting by now.

According to the sale man is to get more customer, which indirect extend they customer base and also increse the after sale profil, which sound make sense too.

WHat I dun like about D is that
they didn't provide the bracket
to open the filter for washing. Keep
on earning rm80 for service.
Still thinking weather to chg...any recommendations?
Heard pentair is good...

This post has been edited by Neoh1979: Nov 28 2011, 01:51 AM

which brand you move to???

refer post #25

Anyone using Osmo water filter before?

Finally get my POE item moved out from Puchased list today.
Getting the Perfect Steel from our favious suppllier "zheilwane"

http://www.mywaterpurifier.com/index.php?a...d&productId=334

zheilwane give leng price again?

haha...hard question but I guess is YES, also if it equipvalent to other brand than I will prefer to TRUST people who used it before

Haha, I know the feeling, hard question but you cant answer YES directly , yes I also willing to pay for the TRUSTED seller who used before +1

Finally get the POE in place, and finally the $$$ still go to zheilwane since initial the discussion from March...hahaha after 9 month time.

Very nice plumber and nice work manship...tested everything before go off





He surprise on water pressure at my area, and when he first turn ON the water, the pipe break off from the connection...than only noticed it was 5 bar...


* It will be good to have better quality of pipe instead of PVC lol....look funny.
During the installation, also noticed that the main stopcock are KO, can't stop the water flow. , Hence go out and get another one to replace....


This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Dec 3 2011, 07:32 PM

Did you clean up your storage water tank? Else dirt are still in the tank accumulate prior to the installation of the POE filter.

Wow, 5 BAR ... much stronger than a regular grundfos water pump ekke. Hope you like ur new filter. Btw, u didnt have the chance to call me today ekke

Because I have thing to do, hence didn't care so much, in fact he only arrived at 14:51....51 min later.
* First call 14:18 he on somewhere and on the way....
He have to spend extra time when doing the backwash, as water keep coming up with Brown suspect due to the 5 bar, which all the dust in the PS tank is ejecting out


Kelvyn,
Yes, have spend almost 4 hours at the water tank....

ALmost like Pro job...very clean but tired


After clean up, only open the pipe with PS water


Only problem now is when want to fix the Auto Gate, the PS need to be remove first as it for sure block the Auto Gate box area... due to the nice design of my original contractor

5 bar .... wow... powerful pressure

You washed the tank yourself . you have my respect

You can also, but really tired and pain after that...

Most of the installers cleans the water tank as part of their package. Anyway mine did that for me. Lucky me. Else have to spend time up in the roof to clean them myself.

As you have mentioned, the space for the auto gate controller box is very tight. Why don't you have the wires routed out? Or else, in in future any maintenance on the auto gate is going to be difficult.

My house just installed a external water filter yesterday but I haven't clean the water tank yet. I think not easy to clean it, if I ask a worker to clean it and how much does it cost?

Than have to removed the 2 main pipes at the PS head and move the filter out...fix back once they done.
If not, it will bit funny where the PS seat on.

Because they already charged into your bill...

Cost of clean up the tank depend on contractor. Some charge RM50 some are RM150, but quality is ensure...

This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Dec 5 2011, 12:38 AM

They actually added in the cost of washing ur tank inside the package d.

If ur tank is those black fibre or poly tank, make sure u b extra careful when washing it as u might accidentally damage the tank. If u r using a stainless steel tank, you wont have this problem.

I could not say for sure if I was charged additional for the water tank cleaning. Recalled that I have compared with the rest of other packages which charges additional for water tank cleaning. Mine looks quite reasonable. Anyway, I used up half of the water in the tank before they came to install the filter. So easier and quicker to clean that tank as there are lesser water in the tank.

is it brand Perfect Steel?

how come zheilwane told me the head was plastic

that various type with different price. expensive few hundred.

how much he charge you?

Well, he give a good price, you could discuss with him offline.

After used, any negative feedback? I am still hunting for outdoor filter..

thanks

ya.. i know

juz he told only got plastic head.. tats wat i worry about

Can't be except we are talking different people off here. As this is what I get from him.
Are you getting the 8inch or 10inch? If not mistake only more than 10inch come with stainless steel head. My modal is "Perfect Steel 1042"


If you incoming water are high pressure (more than 4-5 bar), than some dirty water may still go through as it push out very fast.

not sure about size, he juz quote me 1 steel cover 1 is fiber cover... both plastic head

i can't find more info about perfect steel also... worry about warranty if this seller mia after few years...

his shop not open sunday & i only free on sunday

i stay at condo, pressure should be not so high...

Bro, nothing to worry lal. The PS have after sales support as they just visit me after I complained to zheilwane, that how I found out the pressure issues as my is more than 5 bar all the time. lot of member from here getting other items from him too

Oh...you stay in condo? than maybe that the reason he quoted you plaster sinnce didn't hit direct sound.

Perfect Steel (PS) got several models. The body is either fibre or stainless steel while the head or valve can be either plastic or stainless steel. THe price difference between plastic head and stainless steel head is RM 250. The normal plastic head is actually good enough. However, if u wan to get THE BEST for your family like Jo_da48, u can upgrade it to a stainless steel head.

PS has good after sales service like what Jo_da48 has mentioned, PS OEM for other brands like alphamax, they are quite reputable in the market but not popular as they lack of advertising.

Sand filters are basically very durable and better than membrane filter. It is true that membrane filter has better filtration but if your water pressure is strong like Jo_da48, there is a high possibility that the membrane will burst, will cost u RM 400 to replace the membrane. A sand filter on the other hand will not spoil but filtration will b less effective.

THis is the model that Jo_da48 bought from me. You can view the spec as per attached file below


This post has been edited by zheilwane: Feb 23 2012, 08:38 AM


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Good. My next item is outdoor water filter but will bought the fibre since mine is inside the condo. no direct hot sun light.

Can you pm me the best price for Perfect Steel with stainless steel body and head/valve...

Is the price include delivery and installation?

thanks zheilwane

Just installed my sand filter. After washing my tank and flushing out all the dirt from the pipes, the next day from the kitchen tap, the water looks like got white powder. It cleared up after awhile. now no more. Any similar experience ah?

Possiable. For old house maybe worst if the pipe already rusty. Just let the water out few second on early mornign or after back from home.

m interested...pm me price plus installation..also after sales service...

PM u d

Pm me too! Thank you! Think i'll visit your shop soon!

I'll suggest use steel, the plastic head is not reliable. Speaking from experience from other brand.

Will sand filter become dirty after some time where back wash not able to clean? Will it cause re-contamination like Diamond said?

The sand need to be change every two or three years. If sales person say noneed change is lie.

actually not just the sand inside... you have carbon, resin and sands with different grade also... and need no change for 5-10 years if you properly maintain it... just do backwash everyday.. how i know? I'm water treatment specialist in my factory... and we have even much bigger sand filter to treat the underground water... already use for more than 5 years! treated water still in good quality! and i can get FRP tank at cheap price (RM700 without installation)!

After two years or more take out the sand see the build up will sure scare the home users.

wat model?

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Added on February 25, 2012, 10:56 pmhow about those micro-z sand? they claim no need replace...

This post has been edited by lms2005: Feb 25 2012, 10:56 PM

no such thing, micro z sand also need to be replaced. I m selling Perfect Steel and one of the model comes with micro z as well.

I got a POE sand filter. Any good recommendation on where to get or how to make a top cover to protect the top valve head...

If You don't change the sand, your house water after the filter will be worse before filtration. Because the build up will flow back.

when you backwash, the sand is not 100% clean.

Don worry bro, the valve is very durable. My gf using it for about 4-5 years d, no issue. Have been selling it for many years, never replace the head before.

Those sand cost how much?

depending on the origin, Perfect Steel (PS) 1 is from US

thx taiko zean

Cut the Dynamo or similar container ...u just want protection from natural lol...

good suggestion