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post May 26 2010, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(catsper @ May 26 2010, 03:02 PM)
Thanks. For DELL 2209WA, one quirk that bothers me though. The brightness adjustment is meaningless. It is overly bright out of the box especially at night, tune down brightness does not help dimming it. Now using with lower contrast setting for a more pleasant view. Other than that, it is simply superb.

New Ultrasharp user, do you have this problem?
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I haven't found the time to play with my new 2311H yet, honestly speaking the backlight bleed turns me off a little. The initial plan was to sell my 2209WA and replace it with this new 2311H. Thank God I didn't. From the looks of it I'm going to stick to my old 2209WA, which I agree that the factory setting is overly bright. What I did was tune down both contrast and brightness from the stock 75 to 50. That ease my eyes a bit. This weekend I'll try to tune my 2311H, if it doesn't works for me, it'll be in my wife's office or the garage sale pretty soon.
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post May 26 2010, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 26 2010, 01:24 PM)
2209WA is the old version of ST2210 ???
One is TN and the other is IPS panel. That's in different category
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QUOTE(catsper @ May 26 2010, 02:34 PM)
2209WA is in its own league (Ultrasharp series) and currently in revision A02, ST2210 is never its successor. For new U23/U22, the quality of Ultrasharp LCD may have dropped to translate a better pricing, but with the same premium panel warranty and great stand with better viewing angle, I would say it is still a great deal in consumer market.
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my mistake, guys~
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post May 26 2010, 05:25 PM

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anyone tried samsung 2770p 27inch 1920X1080 reso lcd monitor ? i want to know how detail it can be display .
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QUOTE(likito @ May 26 2010, 05:25 PM)
anyone tried samsung 2770p 27inch 1920X1080 reso lcd monitor ? i want to  know how detail it can be display .
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How much detail do you mean? Bigger screen only can allow you to sit further away to enjoy movies or a like, it does not translate into more pixels unlike Dell Ultrasharp U2711 which has 2560 x 1440 resolution, Samsung P2770 is still 1080p, so you might experience bigger dots compare to smaller screen of 1080p.

Hope that clears some people confusion of choosing bigger screen.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ May 26 2010, 03:14 PM)
I haven't found the time to play with my new 2311H yet, honestly speaking the backlight bleed turns me off a little. The initial plan was to sell my 2209WA and replace it with this new 2311H. Thank God I didn't. From the looks of it I'm going to stick to my old 2209WA, which I agree that the factory setting is overly bright. What I did was tune down both contrast and brightness from the stock 75 to 50. That ease my eyes a bit. This weekend I'll try to tune my 2311H, if it doesn't works for me, it'll be in my wife's office or the garage sale pretty soon.
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how bad is the backlight bleeding? Can you post some pictures, I'm sorry but I looked through your post but there's no pict. I'm planning on getting one so need your help~ THanks man~
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post May 27 2010, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ May 26 2010, 03:14 PM)
I haven't found the time to play with my new 2311H yet, honestly speaking the backlight bleed turns me off a little. The initial plan was to sell my 2209WA and replace it with this new 2311H. Thank God I didn't. From the looks of it I'm going to stick to my old 2209WA, which I agree that the factory setting is overly bright. What I did was tune down both contrast and brightness from the stock 75 to 50. That ease my eyes a bit. This weekend I'll try to tune my 2311H, if it doesn't works for me, it'll be in my wife's office or the garage sale pretty soon.
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For IPS panel, there is something call "IPS glow" which is commonly mistaken by consumer as backlight bleeding. smile.gif Try to see the LCD using different angle...if the white part change with angle...mean its a IPS glow... if the white part fixed no matter which angle u look from, its a backlight bleeding.
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QUOTE(UltraConductor_41 @ May 27 2010, 07:28 PM)
For IPS panel, there is something call "IPS glow" which is commonly mistaken by consumer as backlight bleeding. smile.gif Try to see the LCD using different angle...if the white part change with angle...mean its a IPS glow... if the white part fixed no matter which angle u look from, its a backlight bleeding.
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Well, on my older Dell 2007WFPs, they were more orangish than whitish, so maybe newer IPS glows are slight whitish?

BTW, just ordered 2xU2311Hs, if I don't like the reduction in 120 pixels, then wait to see it at Garage Sales section.
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anyone got any comments regarding dell new 24 inch monitor?The G series if i'm not mistaken.Is it any good or bad?thinking of buying it for my third monitor.however From what i read/know, it doesnt have HDMI port.which might upset me a bit since i'm planning on connecting a ps3 to it later on compare to putting it on my dell st2410.
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QUOTE(Top-Gun @ May 27 2010, 09:57 PM)
Well, on my older Dell 2007WFPs, they were more orangish than whitish, so maybe newer IPS glows are slight whitish?

BTW, just ordered 2xU2311Hs, if I don't like the reduction in 120 pixels, then wait to see it at Garage Sales section.
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ur 2007wfp come with 2 type of panel if not wrong... either ips or pva.... not really sure about pva.... but for my almost 1 year old U2410...and for the all 4 units that i had asked dell to exchange for me..all with the so call "backlight bleeding" in 4 corners. it disappear when i change my viewing angle~ smile.gif so its jus ips glow... a backlight bleeding will stay forever at the same point.... and according to Dell LCD engineer, backlight bleeding rarely occur in LCD nowaday. smile.gif

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so means the 2311 dont have much problem and it's still a good buy lah ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 28 2010, 02:23 AM)
so means the 2311 dont have much problem and it's still a good buy lah ? biggrin.gif
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search for feedback in google first. Dell first batch product always got lot of problem~
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post May 28 2010, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(UltraConductor_41 @ May 28 2010, 02:36 AM)
search for feedback in google first. Dell first batch product always got lot of problem~
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who has the first batch can rma and get a second batch if not satisfied with their product? tongue.gif
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post May 28 2010, 02:40 PM

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currently looking on these models... $ in SGD

wanted to have this monitor as my laptop extend screen for my work usage... not much gaming... for documents/officework/movie/drama/video mostly

for same size... LED is about $50 more expansive then LCD sad.gif
but from what i heard from sales person.. LED's Dynamic contrast ratio is as high as 5 million compared to the LCD's 70000:1 (samsung bh2330)

how will this DCR affect/influence my purchase? any other model that you can suggest?

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LG E2240T LED 21.5" 1920x1080 $308
LG E2050T LED 20" 1600x900 $248
Samsung B2230H LCD 21.5" 1920x1080 $268
Viewsonic VX2233wm 21.5" 1920x1080 $249
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i just ordered a 2209wa from ganabathi, let's hope it's in good condition without needed for RMA
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QUOTE(lazo @ May 28 2010, 02:40 PM)
for same size... LED is about $50 more expansive then LCD sad.gif
but from what i heard from sales person.. LED's Dynamic contrast ratio is as high as 5 million compared to the LCD's 70000:1 (samsung bh2330)

how will this DCR affect/influence my purchase? any other model that you can suggest?
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I don't know how others view.
But currently the contrast figure published I find it has little meaning anymore.

Switch on the panel, and see yourself is the better judgement, instead of rely on how many million contrast being published.

I find DCR is not the major concern nowadays due to LCD technology or panel has been improving a lot, at least my view.
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i went to the computer shop and actually had a look at them... in fact.. all monitor looks the same to me.. just that the design is different.. and price is different depending on brands...

and it is like LED is a newer technology compared to the ordinary LCD ... but does it worth the $50 extra? will it has like more energy saving... longer life... etc?

i read the specifications of a few models of monitor online. they mention about low energy consumption... how significant will those energy saving help in my electric bill? $10-20 per month? :S
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QUOTE(captvizcenzo @ May 28 2010, 02:39 AM)
who has the first batch can rma and get a second batch if not satisfied with their product?  tongue.gif
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as long as under warranty period... you can rma a LCD without any cost as long as you convince the DELL customer service that your unit is defect. But they will only send you a refurbish unit which is the same model like yours. Lets said if Dell come out a new version, U2410XXX due to the heavy complaint of the U2410. And my old U2410 had tint problem..they will only warranty my lcd with a replacement of U2410... instead of a new model of U2410XXX. smile.gif same thing happened to the old batch of dell 24 inch pva panel that had been replaced by U2410. i forgot the model edi~ something call 2409wfp i think. you can track back the evolution of that model. see how many version had dell come out since the first release. biggrin.gif

so do feedback seasrch first before you rush into something new~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ May 28 2010, 02:44 PM)
i just ordered a 2209wa from ganabathi, let's hope it's in good condition without needed for RMA
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Lol bro u getting 2209WA?
im still getting U2410 maybe it will arrive next week.
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I just bought a 2209wa brand new for RM529. an absolute steal for this good monitor. very satisfied with it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(GrIM @ May 28 2010, 04:31 PM)
I just bought a 2209wa brand new for RM529. an absolute steal for this good monitor. very satisfied with it. smile.gif
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