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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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chiongguo
post May 17 2010, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ May 11 2010, 12:52 PM)
Something I thought of it long ago and didn't do it @ agriculture land because of security @ Agriculture land.

Warning:  Pekan swiftlets Association sms that there is a group of 6 having dangerous  weapons stealing EBN from BHs in Pekan-Rompin area so be careful when approaching these thieves....cos they are armed.

Time are bad enough without Perhilitan coming in for a kill, too.......the Chinese saying should go like this." Front door, we have Perhilitan and back door, we have robbers".
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I think the two are indistinguishable.

One uses the power of a gun while the other uses the power granted to them by the law - and they make the law.

This is a typical strategy of the corrupt in many countries known for their corruption ; bureucratic impediment is used to extort.


WW how about sharing with us what your idea of a good BH design is or phrase in another way if you have to design a BH for yourself how would you do it ?


chiongguo
post May 17 2010, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ May 12 2010, 06:43 PM)
Regulatory Status of Codes of Practice
While the codes certainly serve an important adjunct to expert/testimony in the revice Animal Ordinance 1953, they should not and of themselves be used to determine compliance or the legality of a particular operation. Codes are recommended guidelines not required standards.


While I do not fully understand what the above paragraph (lifted frm the GAHP) means
I do have a few points I would like to share below

2.5 Identification and records
2.5.2 Useful records include: species, acquisition/disposition, incubation period, hatched date, flock/batch number, fertilized eggs acquired from, and owernership. The date and mode of any treatment or medication, breeding history, and bloodline records can be added on.
Essentially a log of all activities of each individual bird from the egg stage...Banyak bagus!

2.5.3 Permanent identification (microchip ring tag) of some of the pioneer breeders is needed for legal proof of ownership. These shall in the future be, at the National Animal Registrar Office, stationed at the Department of Veterinary Services Headquarters. Annual renewal of the licenses shall be deemed a must, which goes concurrently with the compulsory random health checks of the birds and premise by registered Veterinary authority, the Local Government and Health Ministry.
Wah!!! A unique ID for each bird. Getting better!!!
I am wondering if DVS Walet site is for registering each individual bird or BH??


3.1 Water and feed
3.1.3 Where environmental, seasonal, or stocking density effects do not allow daily insect feed requirements to be met, supplemented insects bolus feed can be offered.
3.1.4 Specific trace mineral requirements can be met with supplements. Exotic birds may have different requirements for minerals such as cooper, selenium or cobalt than those of conventional animals.
Do we weigh all the hatchlings each day like babies to chart proper growth?

3.3 Restrain
3.3.1 Restrain is required for procedures such as tagging and medication.
3.3.2 Use of currently available chemical immobilizing agents is legally restricted to licensed registered veterinarians an other authorized personnel.
3.3.3 Chemical immobilization should not be used where birds might injure or disorient themselves or become separated from human care, for example near open water, extensive woodland or steep slopes.
3.3.4 Following chemical immobilization, birds should be kept upright in a dark, confine, dry flat area and kept under observation until sufficient recovery has occurred to avoid risks of trauma, regurgitation or accidental injury. It is best to wrap anaesthetized birds with towels to prevent hypothermia.
3.3.5 Birds recovering from chemical immobilization behave strangely and may traumatised itself or be attacked by other objects.
So to attach the chip ring tag, you may need to hire specialist to immobilise the birds!!
I refuse to read on.

vmad.gif GAHP has been mentioned for at least a year when I first stumbled on this forum.
How did all these alien breeding recommendations have stayed on for so long in the GAHP?
Didnt all the sifus here have the presence of mind to challenge DVS then?
All your local assoc and the Feds have just been shown to be just as clueless with recent events.

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It would seemed that Veterinary Dept is now allowing swiftlet breeding. Everything in this subsection pertained to breeding. Isn't this a violation of the protected specie act ? Or is this a case of left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing ?

I bet this came from the ecopark lobby group.




chiongguo
post May 17 2010, 08:48 AM

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The "five freedoms" are recognized as criteria for judging how welfare is rated:
>• freedom from hunger and thirst
>• freedom from thermal and physical discomfort
>• freedom from pain, injury and disease
> freedom from undue anxiety
>• freedom to display most normal patterns of behaviour
This is from the GAHP Introduction.

Does the advisor, consultant and writer had ever designed, built, managed and produced BH and BN ?

The above key performance index of the GAHP is almost laughable.

* Freedom from hunger and thirst - doesn't this folks know that the swiftlets find their own food and water ?

* Freedom from thermal and physical discomfort - doesn't this folks know that we are not rearing chicken and the swiftlets are free to leave ? Or are they just cutting and pasting from the internet without thinking ?

* Freedom from pain, injury and disease - doesn't this folks also know that we are not breeding but offering a shelter for swiftlets. Nature takes care of its own and in the wise words of the ancient - "when sky fall we treat it as blanket"

* Freedom from undue anxiety - like all other animals - human included - they fight to preserve physical and mental comfort. An oxymoron but that's sanity in our deluded world. It's also the world that the insane called the sane insane with patronising idiocy.
There is NO UNDUE ANXIETY as they are all free to leave.

* Freedom to display most normal patterns of behaviour - Again the swiftlets are free to leave. It is all natural without coercion.


If I were the consultant, advisor and writer I would be a shame to put my name on it. But these 3 blokes had no qualms :

ADVISOR : DATO' DR. HAWARI BIN HUSSEIN
CONSULTANT : DATO' DR. MATTA BIN ABD RAHMAN
: DR. Hj. IBRAHIM BIN CHE EMBONG

COMPILED & : DR. FADZILAH A'lNI BINTI ABDUL KADIR
WRITTEN

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chiongguo
post May 17 2010, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ May 17 2010, 09:16 AM)

As usual, fox can never hide its tail for long.....

but when it does it always means that his mission is accomplished.

and sad news.....ordinary farmers will suffer.  ohmy.gif
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The devil sees a cup of water as poison

An angel sees it as nectar

Both are deluded and idiocy reigned supreme.



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post May 17 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ May 17 2010, 10:18 PM)
The Chinaman sold it twice, once as poison and then as nectar.
The delusion and idiocy was broken momentary when the smell of cash was in the air.
It has since relapsed.
The Chinaman is back again and waiting for the next cup.
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Your cup runneth over in utter confusion.


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post May 17 2010, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ May 17 2010, 09:28 PM)
Fantastic facts and fancies by Patrick Teoh!!!!
thumbup.gif  This is funny!...nothing beat a good laugh. biggrin.gif
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Unexplained laughter is a sign of heart disharmony called ghost syndrome in traditional chinese medicine.

With your preponderance to scolding it is a confirmation of the affliction ;-)


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post Jul 13 2010, 04:37 PM

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Gambang, 3.3 km along dirt-road in from caltex station located at the junction of jalan gambang and jalan segamat. The place is a swiftlet feeding area. Many bird houses in the area. 1.8 acre land for sale at RM100 K per acre. Land is cleared by owner and owner will pull electricity to the land.

A few kilometers from pekan in sungai miang is a flat 2 acre piece of land. Land is located alongside the pekan bypass for the kuantan-rompin highway. The road is already marked. Sungai miang is a newly discovered swiftlet haunt. Price of land is RM 140,000/= per acre.

Interested please call or sms to 016 3789692.

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