Can you post some 5-minutes samples here ?

PM me ur email address.....

Hi, what qualifies as good and nice ? I'm interested in increasing the population of my bird house, will your sounds do that ? Will it be possible to have samples to test or can you carry out a test for us ?

Thanks.

how much for the sounds?

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Added on July 16, 2010, 11:40 pmonly interested in the best

This post has been edited by htc: Jul 16 2010, 11:40 PM

Good external sound ...that's everybody want esp. if it's new....as that may attract alot of birds into your BH but then, possible try and buy cos many pay so much and not get any real value for it. Beware..........

One of my friends boosted that his latest sound addition is the best at present for the whole of Terengganu and Kelantan and he's not selling but willing to correct unsuccessful BH on profit sharing............30 new Nests per month assurance and what better deal can you get.

Don't ask me cos it wasn't me telling you but just sharing what I have heard. Interested, let me know and I will arrange a meeting between you two and according to him, an agreeement need tobe signed. So, soon there will be no more unsuccessful BHs Hahahaha.......even hearing it but I still don't believe him but will help out if any of the readers here need his services.

Saturday, 17 July 2010 01:10:24sin chew daily report

黃沙尼：五合一減少衛生問題‧籠式養燕將成新趨勢
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2010-07-16 11:56

籠式養燕的燕屋根據燕子的習性需求而製造，同時也容易讓燕子適應環境。（圖：星洲日報）

黃沙尼向記者指出，與大馬企業及農基工業公會工作研發的公司已獲得燕子蛋入口准證，以進行研發養燕的工作。（圖：星洲日報）

大馬獸醫局發出的申請准證。（圖：星洲日報）

工作人員必須給雛鳥餵食，待變成鳥後才自行覓食。（圖：星洲日報）

研發所得的燕子餵食器將飼蟲噴到半空，讓飛行中的燕子捕食。（圖：星洲日報）

燕屋內的屋樑也根據燕子的習性建造，以求能夠產出質量兼具的燕窩。（圖：星洲日報）

籠式養燕法也包括生產飼蟲，好讓給燕子的飼料有足夠的供應。（圖：星洲日報）
1 of 7 （吉打‧居林）內閣通過養燕行業新指南，五合一籠式養燕將成為養燕新趨勢。


農業及農基工業部長早前表示，內閣通過國家養燕業發展指南（1GP）後，有興趣者必須向馬來西亞燕窩商聯合會各州分會註冊成為會員及向獸醫局登記後，才可向政府申請養燕／燕屋准證。

大馬企業及農基工業公會主席黃沙尼對《大北馬》說，目前一般的養燕業實是引燕，因為業者建好燕屋後，將燕子引入燕屋產窩。

由於目前一般上的燕屋皆在城市或靠近住宅區，他說，難免這些燕屋會引起衛生方面的問題。因此，經他多年的研發後產生了籠式養燕法，一方面能夠將衛生問題減到最低，也能管制燕窩的質與量。

燕產窩循環不息

他說，這套五合一籠式養燕法包括引蛋、孵化、成長、產窩，以及供食，即將燕子蛋引入燕屋後直到成燕產窩，然後在燕屋內循環不息。由於在籠內飼養而燕子未能在野外覓食，因此這套養燕法也包括生產燕子的飼蟲。

他表示，大馬獸醫局也參與了籠式養燕研發工作，而且由於燕子屬受保護鳥類，因此大馬企業及農基工業公會也是受個獲得燕蛋入口准證的單位，好讓這項研發順利進行的同時，同時也拓展籠式養燕的行業。

他還說，難料相關指南會否有朝一日不允許燕屋築在人潮密集的環境，因此籠式養燕不只可行，而且也會成為被推崇的趨勢。

飼料不同
引燕養燕有別

引燕與養燕有別，不同的地方就在於提供燕子的飼料。

黃沙尼說，燕子是軟腳鳥類，故一生的四分之三都在空中飛，也因此燕子吃的也是在空中飛著的小蟲，所以燕子的食物也可稱為上等的飼料。

他說，一般上認為燕子在上午離開燕屋後就一直飛行覓食，所以將燕子關在籠裡是不可能的事情。但是，其研究也證明了籠式養燕的供食法是可行的。

籠式養燕生產飼蟲

他解釋，籠式養燕也包括生產飼蟲，冷藏的飼蟲經過馬達器材噴射半空，而飛行中的燕子就能吃到在半空中的飼蟲。至於飼蟲方面，他說，也能給該飼蟲的飼料添加營養成份，好讓籠中的燕子能夠吃到較為營養的飼蟲。

他還說，也有案例指一些曾有飛蟲為患的地方，經燕群抵步後便能解決，但是當燕子難以覓食後，雖然老燕仍會留在原處，新燕卻會遷到較易覓食的地方，因此燕窩產量就難以保證。

人禽同居或引健康問題
鄉郊養燕最適合

飛禽與人類同居很難預測會否引起健康問題，為防萬一鄉郊地區養燕確是最適合。

黃沙尼表示，燕窩確有很大的市場，而且亦能給國家帶來相當大的利潤，但是站在國民的立場燕屋太靠近民宅始終不太妥當，由於燕子居住的地方必須保持潮濕，倘若爆發衛生或健康問題，居住附近的人民容易受感染。

他還說，一些燕屋築在商業區也造成有關區域的屋價受到影響，無疑也拉低相關商業區的格調及水平。所以，燕屋築在郊區最適合不過。

有說燕子的飛行高度等所以不適合籠式飼養，他因此指出，燕子是適應能力極強的飛禽，只要適當的遷移，燕子就能根據新的環境生存下來。


Hahaha.....someone emailed this to me and suggested this should solve all our problems and headaches.......What do u all think??????

Can someone please help translate into English to help those brothers who don't read Chinese and also post the link up here? Thanks.....
星洲日報／大北馬‧2010.07.15

This post has been edited by Lucas 1: Jul 17 2010, 05:55 PM

有了政府提供资金，我也懂得搞研究

http://www.www.igeorgetownpenang.com/opini...elines-in-place

All pm replied ...Thanks..

birds survey. How many birds must be sighted b4 deciding on the site?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_yxyBvaauw

This post has been edited by mybiebie: Jul 20 2010, 12:02 AM

need around 200-300 birds.

depending on the season

if got 80 to 100 birds enuf or nt?

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This post has been edited by hamidswiftlet: Jul 26 2010, 11:57 PM

All readers with BH in Georgetown.
Bring this to your assoc's notice for their action.
There is a concerted effort to continue to rid Gergetown of BHs.
Beware!!!!
This has been taken to a different level by the Georgetown anti swiftlet lobby.
A professional journalist/cybertrooper has been hired to discredit and bring doubts abt the industry there and to pressure the Penang state govt.
Such pros are available for hire, for example
http://whatismatt.com/who-is-the-lost-boy/
http://mattcrook.com/hire-matt-crook-freelance-writer/
http://mattcrook.com/

I believe Penang and Melaka will be strict with BH due to their Heritage site status..

Folks,
What my layman interpretation is that the minister's answer imply that Conservation of Wildlife Act 2010 has nothing to do with non-cave birds' nest!
As such Perhilitan's action against the Chinese medicine shop is illegal unless it's cave nest!
Then again..is Perhilitan and the minister in synch????

1. Hope what I heard is incorrect as there are news around that Selangor state Government (opposition lah) may force BHs to move in 5 years time.....any truth in this? Hope what I heard is incorrect and correct me if I am wrong!!

2. I heard that Pahang is issuing permit for BHs under the new GP and I will try to go to Pekan to check it out this coming Friday. Anyone here has news on this?

it is not a news anymore..

u will be surprised that some states will gives even less than 5 years.

they cannot gives us a permanant licence, else they will also kena shoot death by non keepers.

they can only gives a 2, 3, and 5 years licence which you can or cannot renew on the next term.

this is true to all states in malaysia including bahau or kemaman or kt or kuantan.

sleep well while you still can.

No news is always good news. trust tht.