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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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aeiou228
post Jul 9 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(htc @ Jul 9 2010, 10:21 AM)
anyone attending?

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Is about financing scheme of swiftlet industry ?
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:18 PM

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its about

1. introductory to swiftlet farming
2. financing scheme for swiftlet farming

both are boring....

most interesting is the Q&A where we can

1. the free food (paid by our taxes)
2. ask them what the guidelines are
3. ask about financing in greater detail

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jul 9 2010, 11:44 AM)
Is about financing scheme of swiftlet industry ?
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Did i need to pay for the seminar??
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post Jul 9 2010, 03:18 PM

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doubt it...government organised.

i didnt call up to book a seat myself. but will just attend.
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post Jul 9 2010, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(htc @ Jul 9 2010, 03:18 PM)
doubt it...government organised.

i didnt call up to book a seat myself. but will just attend.
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It's limited 700 peserta only, I think have to book in advance. I'm not in KL on 13th July, otherwise will attend.
I understand that Agro bank have cheap loan for swiftlets farming this year. Can you ask this matter for me ? If it is below 3% p.a. loan, it is always good to apply fpr the loan and reinvest the money to some sukuk or trust funds that gives 5% to 6% ROI.
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post Jul 10 2010, 10:47 AM

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WW, can u share ur experience using humidifier? Currently im using 2units chicken soup with hornhat. Now im gonna need another humidifier. I plan to try ultrasonic humidifier like the one James and Pak Harry are selling. But then a friend of mine suggest Fujibin which is more pricey and realible.
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Have been using the Taiwanese humidifiers with success as in most of my friends for years. Recently, I have tried and still in the process of trying and initial result is OK. I bought them from Fucibin and got distributor's price for it as I told them that I am a retailer for BH products and would like evaluate their products. Fucibin's Ultrasonic Humidifier produce alot of water molecules (smoke) and has excellent backup for their products and I love their keen interest in listening to your complaints unlike many sellers.

If you are buying from Fucibin, get the cheaper version and ask if they provide you with additional hose to divert the smoke into the BH. Presently as busy as I am, I am experimenting with self made ultrasonic humidifier as I just got hold of the set of disk and power supply from China and hope that my few hundreds water container system work as well.

Since what I was scare that the ultra sound created by the oscillator of the vibrating discs may have adverse results on the swiftlets, I place the ultrasonic humidifier outside the BH and blow it into the BH using a small blower fan and long piping and it's OK......although, I still think that the Taiwanese humidifier is the best so far as it's cheap and easily maintained plus that it's proven to be successful with the birds.

The only disadvantage of the Taiwanese humidifier as I see it is that they wet the floor although this shouldn't be a problem with agriculture land but certainly a big problem with town as the lower floor's tenant may complaint. Recently, this has been solve by placing a 4 horned helmet over the humidifier and no more water on the floor. With the cover, you basically can run the Taiwanese humidifier for hours without worrying that you may flood the floor of your BH.


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post Jul 10 2010, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jul 10 2010, 11:47 AM)
Have been using the Taiwanese humidifiers with success as in most of my friends for years. Recently, I have tried and still in the process of trying and initial result is OK. I bought them from Fucibin and got distributor's price for it as I told them that I am a retailer for BH products and would like evaluate their products. Fucibin's Ultrasonic Humidifier produce alot of water molecules (smoke)  and  has excellent backup for their products and I love their keen interest in listening to your complaints unlike many sellers.

If you are buying from Fucibin, get the cheaper version and ask if they provide you with additional hose to divert the smoke into the BH. Presently as busy as I am, I am experimenting with self made ultrasonic humidifier as I just got hold of the set of disk and power supply from China and hope that my few hundreds water container system work as well.

Since what I was scare that the ultra sound created by the oscillator of the vibrating discs may have adverse results on the swiftlets, I place the ultrasonic humidifier  outside the BH and blow it into the BH using a small blower fan and long piping and it's OK......although, I still think that the Taiwanese humidifier is the best so far as it's cheap and easily maintained plus that it's proven to be successful with the birds.

The only disadvantage of the Taiwanese humidifier as I see it is that they wet the floor although this shouldn't  be a problem with agriculture land but certainly a big problem with town as the lower floor's tenant may complaint.  Recently, this has been solve by placing a 4 horned helmet over the humidifier and no more water on the floor. With the cover, you basically can run the Taiwanese humidifier for hours without worrying that you may flood the floor of your BH.
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What BH products else are u selling? I saw fujibin UH in action on youtube and personally im interested with it. However, the price for 1 unit around rm1200. With RM1200, i can buy 4 units taiwanese humi. For taiwan humi, what happen if the bird shits drop inside the water? It will kills the motor? The other disadvantage of tawain humi is that it's loud. Currently im using 3 units and only one of them is attached with hornhat. Without hydrostat, how many times and how many hours should i operate the humidifier each day? Today i am operating at 10am, 12pm, 2pm,3pm,4pm..35minutes each session. Before today, i operate 12pm, 2pm, 4pm only. And i dont plan to operate it in midnight later the swiflet got heart attack lo. laugh.gif . I know it is better to use hydrostat but im broke because i bought 3 units taiwanese humidifiers. For sure i will upgrade it in the future anyways.

WW, personally how do you consider a 'successful' BH? What is your benchmark? 2 years 1k-1.2k nests?


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post Jul 10 2010, 03:56 PM

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I have received the following PM and since I am not in Penang and I did advice him to forward the request to this forum. Hoping those swiftlets sanctuaries providers @ Penang may help him in anyway possible.

"Hi there! I'm a British journalist in Penang at the moment, and I'm writing a story for the UK newspaper Guardian Weekly about the swiftlet farming industry in Penang and Malaysia and beyond. You seem to know quite a lot about the issue, so I was wondering if you might have time to meet me for a chat early next week? What do you reckon?"

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QUOTE(mois @ Jul 10 2010, 03:07 PM)
What BH products else are u selling? I saw fujibin UH in action on youtube and personally im interested with it. However, the price for 1 unit around rm1200. With RM1200, i can buy 4 units taiwanese humi. For taiwan humi, what happen if the bird shits drop inside the water? It will kills the motor? The other disadvantage of tawain humi is that it's loud. Currently im using 3 units and only one of them is attached with hornhat. Without hydrostat, how many times and how many hours should i operate the humidifier each day? Today i am operating at 10am, 12pm, 2pm,3pm,4pm..35minutes each session. Before today, i operate 12pm, 2pm, 4pm only. And i dont plan to operate it in midnight later the swiflet got heart attack lo.  laugh.gif   . I know it is better to use hydrostat but im broke because i bought 3 units taiwanese humidifiers. For sure i will upgrade it in the future anyways.

WW, personally how do you consider a 'successful' BH? What is your benchmark? 2 years 1k-1.2k nests?
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I am not trying to selling anything here @ forum and if you have read my last posting, I did mentioned the helmet sort of cover for the Taiwanese Humidifier and that will prevent the shits dropping into the hole and as for the side, you may want to install a round piece of hard plastic sheet over the part but make sure that it is place high up and doesn't block the air flow. The Taiwanese humidifier can be easily service by DIY and never need to operate any humidifier at night just for the hot day only and here, even during monsoon season, we shut down the humidifier. Too cold will kill your birds.

The new Taiwanese Humidifier has improved alot since then and the lastest one seem to be more quiet and has longer cable plus it's cheaper now. Here, we buy it @ Rm360 but I heard some place are cheaper, right?

Successful all depend on location and in good location, we can even get 2 Kilo during the first year and 5 kilo after 2 years. It's all depend so I never give myself a benchmark but just a target to achieve base on surrounding BHs records. Again, above are my personal opinion on the matter and others may want to give their views.

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[quote=West Wing,Jul 10 2010, 03:56 PM]
I have received the following PM and since I am not in Penang and I did advice him to forward the request to this forum. Hoping those swiftlets sanctuaries providers @ Penang may help him in anyway possible.

"Hi there! I'm a British journalist in Penang at the moment, and I'm writing a story for the UK newspaper Guardian Weekly about the swiftlet farming industry in Penang and Malaysia and beyond. You seem to know quite a lot about the issue, so I was wondering if you might have time to meet me for a chat early next week? What do you reckon?"


Please leave the name and contact details of the journalist and we'll get in contact with him. Thank You.


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post Jul 11 2010, 10:57 AM

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Hi! I'm the journalist. You can pm me here and then I can give my contact details. Thanks!
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QUOTE(BobFishCow @ Jul 11 2010, 10:57 AM)
Hi! I'm the journalist. You can pm me here and then I can give my contact details. Thanks!
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Hi, Bob, think tuckfook should be the right person to help and show you around. He is from Penang and he is also a veteran in this industry. He can arrange many experienced and knowledgable old timers to share with you their indepth insight of the industry. With their help, think you should be able to cover the most complete and true story of the Malaysia Bird's Nest Industry that is ever being written by anyone.

Meanwhile, in order to gain a better understanding and fairly good knowledge of the industry for a novice, may be it is helpful for you to read up in advance the REPORT OF THE MALAYSIA BIRD'S NEST INDUSTRY written by David Lim (DL) before you meet them. You can read it up in the following forum. thumbup.gif rclxms.gif


Report On The Malaysia Bird's Nest Industry researched and written in 2002 by David Lim


http://www.myswiftlet.com/report-on-the-ma...ssues/#more-131

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a website for my birds @ www.burungwalit.com.my

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/42809-govt...wiftlet-farmers
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Jul 12 2010, 04:23 PM)

then i can push my fat body to thailand and marry a thai woman and invest all my money there... to build more spa n sauna centres.

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QUOTE(htc @ Jul 12 2010, 03:50 PM)
a website for my birds @ www.burungwalit.com.my

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/42809-govt...wiftlet-farmers
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How or where to get PW for the www.burungwalit.com.my???

And Tuckfook, show our British Press around the Penang, and maybe, he will also write about how beautiful is our Penang Island and promote our beautiful country in England and also our peace loving swiftlets plus friendly people of Malaysia.


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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jul 12 2010, 06:51 PM)


And Tuckfook, show our British Press around the Penang, and maybe, he will also write about how beautiful is our Penang Island and promote our beautiful country in England and also our peace loving swiftlets plus friendly people of Malaysia.
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Will certainly do that.


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hi, i new in this n intent to set up a farm at Melaka. Anyone can advice on the process of applying the proper license at melaka or any info on this. Tq.
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Pengusaha Burung Walit Diminta Bersedia Patuhi Garis Panduan - Noh



Pengusaha burung walit diminta patuhi peraturan pemiliharaan ternakan mereka. FotoBERNAMA: Mohd Johari IbrahimKUALA LUMPUR, 12 Julai (Bernama) -- Pengusaha industri ternakan burung walit di seluruh negara dikehendaki bersedia untuk mendaftar kegiatan mereka setelah garis panduan bagi mengawalselia industri itu diluluskan jemaah menteri Jumaat lepas, kata Menteri Pertanian dan Industri Asas Tani Datuk Seri Noh Omar.

Ini kerana, katanya, Garis Panduan (1GP) Industri Burung Walit Negara itu akan dikuatkuasakan tidak lama lagi, iaitu selepas ia dibentangkan pada mesyuarat Majlis Negara mengenai Kerajaan Tempatan yang dipengerusikan oleh Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

Garis panduan yang pertama di dunia ini akan membolehkan lebih 50,000 premis rumah burung di negara ini didaftarkan dengan Jabatan Perkhidmatan Veterinar (JPV) sebelum dilesenkan oleh pihak berkuasa tempatan terbabit.

Ia juga akan digunapakai di Sabah dan Sarawak.

Antara lain, bertujuan untuk mengatasi masalah bau, bunyi dan risiko penyakit selain memastikan pembangunan industri itu, yang dianggar bernilai RM1 bilion, berlaku secara holistik (teratur).

"Hari ini kita nak maklumkan kepada pengusaha burung walit bahawa mereka perlu bersedia (untuk mendaftar). Mereka kini boleh mendapatkan maklumat lanjut mengenai peraturan baru daripada Jabatan Perkhidmatan Veterinar sebab kita tidak mahu nanti bila kita terus menguatkuasakannya mereka jadi kelam kabut dan tidak bersedia," katanya pada sidang akhbar mengenai panduan dan peraturan burung walit pada hari Isnin.

Menurut Noh, garis panduan tersebut perlu dibincangkan dahulu dalam mesyuarat itu agar ia tidak menyebabkan pengusaha burung walit berasa tidak selesa.

"Perkara ni dah berpuluh tahun berjalan kemudian kita nak buat peraturan baru... jadi tentulah orang yang lama terlibat dalam industri mungkin rasa macam ada gangguan dan kurang selesa.

"Sebab mereka dah buat perkara dah berpuluh tahun tiba-tiba kita kata itu tak boleh buat dan ini tak boleh buat...jadi kita tak mahu akhirnya peraturan ini nanti akhirnya menyusahkan rakyat," katanya.

Bagi tujuan pendaftaran premis burung walit di seluruh negara, JPV membangunkan sistem pendaftaran premis penternakan itu melalui laman web burungwalit.com.my.

"Laman web ini boleh diakses bermula hari ini," kata Noh.

-- BERNAMA

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Dear West Wing,
Could you please advise how to prevent or get rid of owl that had invaded a swiftlet house on agricultural land ?
Thank you.

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