I wonder If the chicken farmers are charged per sq. ft for their chicken farms. The pig farmers and goat farms , are they all charge by the sq. ft for their farms ??? The fish farmers and prawns farmers are they also charged for the areas of their fish ponds ??

If not then why penalized birds nest farmers ???

Hello everybody.

My 1st post here, just joined up this month. Have been reading this thread for the last 2 years on and off.

Excellent group of brothers here. Most helpful and unselfish to share your experience and knowledge , not one off, but over the years. SALUTE !!

No, am not into BH yet. Wait till I joint bro WW pensioner club then have more time.


The god must be crazy. . Maybe your friend is thinking to build a nuclear shelter instead ??

Possible, possible. No wonder chicken egg prices keep increasing. But we should be safe at least for the next 2 months, at least no increase b4 raya.



HAVE A NICE DAY EVERY ONE.

You can have James Pond doors, wall, ceiling etc.

In the middle of night in agriland, they came v an excavator with long arm, just one korek, whatever is there is gone.

Security still biggest headache i guess in agriland unless u got armed guards or local folks watching 24hrs.

This post has been edited by Bobby C: Jun 22 2011, 09:13 AM

No need excavator lah, why announce to the world with this big machine. Just a small 20 T industrial hydraulic jack ( smaller than a ipad ) will push the door open.

I have seen movers move a 60 MT transformer with just 4 of this little babies.

Currently drop below Rm4k. will possible drop below Rm3.5k. Simply due to nitrite contain in bird nest esp. red & yellow nest. Even white nest also contain nitrite. Currently holding all my stocks. This could be a good opportunities to buy and stock up & wait for good price which i think should be by Mooncake period and thereafter.

I offer reward of Rm5k for any thief or thieves caught trying to break in. CCTV will confirm them trying to break in and local vigilante group takes over from there.

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Added on June 22, 2011, 12:02 pmThis is where the DVS of south east Asia should go to work ! They must ascertain what the NATURAL level of Nitrites and Nitrates is for EBN with this data they can then determine whether there has been added Nitrites or Nitrates which may have been added to preserve the EBN.

Some foods may NATURALLY have higher levels of Nitrites than the permissible levels.

This may be a tit for tat reaction as many Chinese canned foods have very high Nitrites and Nitrate levels, which have been banned from import in many countries. Some of us have been brought up on these products, eg, pork leg, luncheon meat, spam, corned beef, preserved vegetables etc.

This post has been edited by tuckfook: Jun 22 2011, 12:02 PM

Yes, buy and keep until price increase and normally one or two month before 15th. day of 8th. Month.

Yesterday night. a buyer came to buy nests. I asked for the price and he wanted to see the nests first but I refused and want him to quote and he gave Rm4100/Kg but I wasn't interested and insisted for Rm4400/kg at least before I phone up friends to sell otherwise, I told him next time when the price is right.

He must be seriously hunting for nests as he came to my place at 8 pm seeking nests, possible unable to fulfill his quota. He is willing to go higher but must see the nests first but I still refused cos' many BH owners may fall into his trap convincing them that the sky (price) is falling and soon will be Rm3000/Kg.

We have friends here having a total of 20Kgs left and anyone wishing to offer higher may phone me up to set up the deal; no problem as no commission will go into my pocket.........serious buyers only....remember stock is limited and running low.

Agreed. Instead of just dishing out development funds to any tom d*** & harry from the budget allocation.
DVS ought to retain some to do the necessary.

It's either tit for tat from the customer end or our own people momentarily working against the industry just so to justify their hare brained idea for product tracking.

If there was bad press on EBN, the authorities ought to seize the opportunity and be seen to be serious about food safety when the customers are all ears. The quilty ones ought to be made an example of.

When there is a whistle-blower who see what lies ahead and have the courage to speak up, still many sell "fake" red and yellow nest to China because they thought he is one against an army! We ignore the obvious at our peril, need we say more?

We, Assoc and Govt should be a advocate and champion of the just, right and true bird nests, not just Lone Ranger alone.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jun 22 2011, 10:08 PM

perfume garden well in Vietnam ...if u notice nicely , why the garden perfume container so clean ?? do u think nest at above the container the container still clear ...hahaha ..


http://swiftletfarming.blogspot.com/2011/0...in-vo-cong.html

...........good observation.......must be new specie of swiftlets tat do not shit .............maybe we did not see the bird toilet at the end of the corridor

Good point benchai.

It's time we look at where we stand and what avenues are available to us.
To quote the 1GP these are the legislations that empowers the PBT
1.2 Kementerian Perumahan dan Kerajaan Tempatan (KPKT)
a) Akta Perancangan Bandar dan Desa 1976 [Akta 172] : Subseksyen 19 (1) dan Seksyen 22 (A) bagi keperluan kebenaran merancang.
b) Akta Kerajaan Tempatan 1976 [Akta 171] : Seksyen 107 dan 110 bagi tujuan pelesenan dan penguatkuasaan.
c) Akta Jalan, Parit dan Bangunan [Akta 133] : Seksyen 70 bagi keperluan permohonan pelan bangunan.
d) Undang-Undang Kecil Bangunan Seragam, 1988 yang diguna pakai oleh PBT bagi perkara-perkara melibatkan pengubahsuaian bangunan sedia ada untuk tujuan perusahaan burung walit.
e) Undang-Undang Kecil Tred, Perniagaan dan Perindustrian yang diguna pakai oleh PBT untuk penguatkuasaan.

I have again gone to the Attorney General's web site and pulled out the relevant Acts.
Those who wish to download for study...links below
http://www.agc.gov.my/index.php?option=com...emid=34&lang=en

Scroll down to Local Govt Laws to download from their links
Street, Drainage And Building Act 1974 [Act 133] is broken up into 3 parts
However there are 2 bad links for the last 2 parts
Street, Drainage And Building Act 1974 [Act 133] [51-100]
Street, Drainage And Building Act 1974 [Act 133] [101-131]
Use these corrected ones instead
http://www.agc.gov.my/Akta/Vol.%203/Act%20...%20(51-100).pdf
http://www.agc.gov.my/Akta/Vol.%203/Act%20...20(101-131).pdf

d) & e) are not available on the site and assume are PBT by-laws which may be obtained somewhere else (I dun know).

They wud luv to charge by the sq ft for rumah ayam, kambing, lembu etc...but those r not in desa or under the jurisdiction of PBT, but agricultural land???

You are right, if price not right, rather keep it cos its only for couple of months, or perhaps just couple of weeks. Things will bounce back real soon.

Market players will find all opportunities to bring down the price whenever they can. With the current uncertainty over the food poison scare across the continent and China tighten the check and control of bird nests import from various countries, it is natural that market players will seek the opportunity to dump the price. Have we produced the just, right and true bird nests, we would not have gotten our image tarnished and subsequently blacklisted or penalized. Just my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jun 24 2011, 06:56 AM

This shameless con artist keep cheating newbie ? With a full nest the perfume garden would have been covered with bird shit. Pls judge for yourself all the so call testemonies are self written. All you suckers pls wake up and don't part with your hard earned money to this con.

Just for your information this hairy crab commissioned a 3 stories BH in Sabah which remains empty after 8 months . The superedly built bh was installed with neatly 1000 speakers. All 3 floors are totally blocked with 6 so called useless VIP rooms. The owner MR Y.. Built at great expences 2 insect rooms which remains empty. The LMB goes through
2 rooms before helicoptered down the 10ft x 15 ft air well in total darkness then fly through a corridor to U turn into the VIP rooms. Most of the nesting planks are suspended about an inch from the celing and this so called Sifu and a celebrety master in Vietnam never advise MR Y.. This most simple mistake !

I help Mr Y.. To revamped this BH for free . Rewired the whole BH and have few hundred tweeters for sale back to this Hairy crab. Of cause he now Refused to return mr Y..'s call. Same as Mr G.N. Is still trying to get a refund from this hairy crab for the 2 failed bhs built by HC in west Malaysia. Readers pls wake up.

ooo cool down uncle BC, "Every man has to get to heaven his own way"
excuse me it is "Hairy Cock/d***" in malay P***R Bulu

could you give rough floor plans, of the 2 mentioned BHs, please

This post has been edited by Ayah Embong: Jun 23 2011, 10:46 PM

Benchai, I totally agree with you on this shameless con artist because I've used him before.

In many instances, I found him not practising what he had preached. He was very convincing with his nice stories on his website but I was shocked to find him lacking in experience & knowledge.

His revamp works on my birdhouse didn't work and no birds flew into my birdhouse. He didn't even know how to deal properly with a bird's entrance or have enough effective bird sounds to draw in the birds. He always trying to sell his few over-rated expensive bird sounds but luckily, I managed to obtain other cheaper and effective sounds through my friends. Now he's conning those newbies with his expensive seminars.

My birdhouse now got many birdshit spots after I revamped it again myself. No thanks to this con-artist.

ooo sani , salam buat anda
" I'll lend you my shoulder for you to cry on, my ears to listen to, my hand for you to hold, my feet to walk with you, but I can't lend you my heart because ....... "

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Added on June 23, 2011, 11:21 pmThis post has been edited by Ayah Embong: Jun 23 2011, 11:35 PM

There's a question I need the input from sifus here.
Is it possible to have 2 entrance in a BH?

Basically this is the deal, my friend's BH 24x80 3 storeys initially started with roof opening, however after 4-5 months only 2-3 spots of droppings on the 2nd floor.

After paying his place a visit I recommended him to try hacking off a side entrance on another side (for example roof ent on south side, side ent on north side). This worked as after 1 month now there is already 10 new spots of dropping in 2nd floor. Then we sealed off the roof entrance.

But the birds aren't going down to 1st and ground floor at all.

The reason might be because the stairs were designed to be near the roof opening so then can fly down.
But since the new entrance is on another side of the building, the stairs are very far away, the birds need to fly almost to the other end before they can go down.

I was thinking to reopen the roof opening, maybe partially not fully so there will be some light and the birds can see the path down to 1st and ground floor, will this work?

This post has been edited by northface: Jun 24 2011, 06:46 PM