change the new plank? is the mold serious now???
but my bh got 50 nest ad in 1 year. so how ?i am

what is the Medicine ?where to buy?is it good way got effect?

Is that a standalone BH?
Where is ur BH located?
how many Tingkat?

if yes then sorry to tell u that it is slow and it is slow becaz of the stupid planks, however, dont worry buy the fungus killer.

if u buy, u need to consider on how many plank effected? if many, change all la......... rather then u waste money buy the potion to cure it.....

yes, standalone BH.
located at perak.3 tingkat,

50 nest in 1 year is no good? very slow?
but i calculate 180 birds come back staying inside everday ..still consider bad result?thanks
so if i change new plank, then mean start from zero nest?how about the old bird?

how about this plank?grade 1 kayu meranti?????
this is my anonther friend bh...thanks all sifu here give advice

Your original planks look good to me but after installation, excessive humidity may have contributed to the mold problem. If it is not too serious, just wipe it off with a slightly damp towel. You would need many clean towels to begin with.

What do you use to control your humidifier?

This post has been edited by coolandy: Jan 22 2011, 09:40 PM

I don't think the white patches are mold. It was more like construction dirt and shoe print. You never clean the planks before starting operation ?

Agree with aeiou. Dun appear to be mold, more likely to be dirts. Just wipe them off with damp cloths. If they are cement dusts then you hav to wash them off.

I have a list of Do's & Dun's for anyone working in or visting the bh. During construction one of the dun's is that the workers are not allowed to step onto or lie down or sit on the planks. The planks are keep clean and handled with great care.

This post has been edited by swiftcurrent: Jan 23 2011, 12:19 AM

@aeiou228 and dear swiftcurrent
pls refer to sosos's 1st post (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1417034/+1200#) 1217

that's the real pic of his planks at BH, the pic u see in post 1223 is belongs to his friend.

@sosos
u urself have to decide, dont ask us, caz later u blame us
wut i suggest is, u get a good consultant to fix it for u bah.

The old bird wont leave ur BH, They will be back! and this is my own experience... and very sorry to say that i only do and fix my own BH.

There is something not so good on ur friend BH.... it is esy to understand.... try figure it urself.... nvm la.... call ur friend to ask ur consultant on (why they install those tweeter like this?)

Dont use Big Meranti.... use small meranti will do..... and it is always better.....why? do research. hehe

sosos, dont blame me, i m trying to make u learn it by ur way.

@ Topic, I aint a good consultant or wut, i build my own, my own way, and i dont like consultant...caz they cheated on my very own 1st bh... and i start to do research myself and finally i got my way of doing and modify my bh.

Yeah, we get to know those do's and dun's from swiftcurrent, or other bloggers like harry or cheewooi, but do u think:
- the consultant will hear wut u say?
- they will follow wut u say?
- will they give u the best quality Equipments?
- will they guarantee ur BH future?

I would say, NO, They wont....
(welcome to give me any comment, caz i can consider as a newbie)
(you all r welcome to hate me, hehehe)
(Wut i say Might Not Be True, So Believe me or not is up to u)

Lastly, there is no so called sifu in swiftlet industry caz we dont speak swiftlet languages.... just call us as friend will do.

guys....... anyone here have "proven? bird call system ? i need one lei..... my current one i duno y.... seems like nvr attract any birds........

from the photo provide earlier , i will say it is the right setup. i believe is the sound u play is matter.

nvr attract bird. reason - sound quality n type not correct
- no bird population there
- not at the correct time u doing the bird call

My solution to the dusty plank is buy a new plastic broom ...
Before mounting the individual planks lean one against the wall and sweep it both side.


Yesterday I went to ask hardware store, they quoted me $520 for extendable ladder reaching 7m
Too shocked didn't place order.

thanks for ur reply.... i think so also......... mostly Bird sound Quality or bird sound OR too less tweeter ??

i test it aroudn 6.pm while u can see birds fly around but when i switch it on.. no birds come near me

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Added on January 23, 2011, 11:27 ambro the ladder so exp ??

This post has been edited by Jackygwh: Jan 23 2011, 11:27 AM

my personal view, sequence of work is the most important when doing the bh. it apply to standalone n modification to shopehouse

initially do all the wet work ( civil works and roofing, including all metal door n wiring work for lighting n cctv)

secondary wash the whole building using water jet including ceiling for ever floor.

before plank install i will normally observe the bh floor by floor for few day to see any changes need to be made or modified, including monitor the temperature n humidity .

for air ventilation i believe towards in natural flow n free flow. so my bh have very few mechanical gadget ie cctv, chicken hoop humidifier, amplifier only.

when satisfied n no modification required, only plank will be install. (cause not a single bh is the same, copy n paste will not work fro the industry)

finally all plank r measured n pre cut outside to minimise wood dust free flow.

agree with aeiou. it dun seem to be mold, foot print n dirts. all uninstall plank will be store vertical slanting towards the wall. these to prevent someone step on it and dust accumulate on it surface.

swiftcurrent. for tweeter installation , direction and flow of ways is incorrect.

normally my arrangement will start from the last to the 1st tweeter. (last tweeter meaning far behind bh.)

when u did the installation from the last towards the front section , u will get the idea and better understanding the flow of tweeter direction.

Few months ago I asked some ppl who play audio in another forum.
Basically he said $50 soundcard paired with $1000 speaker will have better quality than $400 soundcard paired with $600 speaker. currency not in ringgit though...
The speaker is much more important than the media and player or wire length & material.

My amp's specs are maximum 320kbps 44100hz which is the best sound quality that is commercially produced for consumer use like song albums cd.

From my limited number of external birdsound, can see some are 128kbps, 192kbps, 320kbps.

So IMO the differences would be negligible, no need to insist on BEST quality when using cheap tweeters.

You can try download Sonic Visualiser to look at the bird call pattern, maybe you can decipher the code.

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Yup, thats one expensive ladder.
If fall down from that height , no money can buy health back.
My partner wants to DIY wooden ladder but I scared to climb ah.
So I'm looking for cheaper ladder .... better for everybody.

Need to see the planks to be sure of the problem as I have seen planks that have similar white patches and feel like rubber and they occurred after a year or two. You can almost remove part of it off with your fingers nails. According to my sawmill friend, those planks are dead and I did K chop 2 pieces in one chop with my bare hand....... and I am no Karate expert lah.

As for Do and Don't, it very difficult to enforce like long ago, we used to tell workers not to smoke in the BH and all food must be taken outside....what you get, smell of urine in the BH........those are labourers and "tak Sekolah" . Just my 2sen opinions.

aiyo,i really so blue right now,some say is mold ,some say not mold......but my BH got 50-60 nest ad, total 180 birds in one year,most of them in third floor,so mean the plank is ok?coz got nest.........they still like these mold plank???if these is mold...not good plank
i post again my plank in my BH, please all sifu here help me see it clearly, is it mold or not?is ok plank or not...thanks so much.
these plank i buy it 1 year ago,is it good plank??dead plank?
is this plank is meranti kayu grade one???? can u se this kind of plank????thanks




after one year, the colour of plank become like that abit some white colour,is it ok??normal?
is it some mold on the plank??
is these plank is good plank??grade 1 meranti?
thanks for advice

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Added on January 23, 2011, 1:33 pmi dun use any humidifier.. thanks u sifu give advice.so from the photo ,is these plank ok?grade one meranti? and how u think from the photo after one year for the plank?got mold there?or not mold?just fade from the colour from plank?

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Added on January 23, 2011, 1:37 pmthanks for advie，u saw the photo plank from my friend's BH?then how about my plank in my BH???i post the photo ad,is these mold??thanks ur experience ...is my plank ok?

This post has been edited by sosos: Jan 23 2011, 01:37 PM

The pictures you posted were to far to give you a decisive answer. You have to take a closed up shot at the white patches and post it here again.
As for the uninstalled planks, I didn't see any molds forming.
The red meranti should be the darker the better. My dark red meranti planks can withstand max Rh% in my BH without mold problem but some not so red ones have molds.

u said that for the uninstalled planks, I didn't see any molds forming.so is it good plank?ok?

ok,thanks, i will post zoom in photo let u see ..

I only saw molds in picture #7th.
As in picture #4th, you can see that the colour of the planks are pale red as compare to the darker red planks next to it. This pale looking planks are more prone to mold growth.

By the way, I'm not sure "select & better grade" dark red Meranti ever exist in the local market. Even if it ever exist, hardly people would want to buy it because the price will be too prohibitory expensive for local market. What you normally get from the miller is Red Meranti Chamcham (mixed). Judging from the last picture, I guess yours is Red Meranti mixed.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Jan 23 2011, 06:05 PM

u said #7 got mold??is the last photo?

is it serious about the mold?from the photo ,how many % got mold from my plank?consider serious?what can i do now?thanks

from #4 photo,u said there got 2 plank is pale red, is there got mold? but my friend said this is coz it is the exterior of the pokok meranti,so look like not that darker red.

and from #1 photo ,is this mold?

Sorry it was picture #6 most likely have molds. But still, the picture is too far to be able to give any conclusive answer.
Picture #4 is too far. Can't see nothing.