Ball has found their way. the 1st few offering also simple design.

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Added on August 18, 2010, 11:17 amnot really. if U shop at outlet it maybe be cheaper. looking at the example.. 25% off MSRP is normal. 35% off alittle cheaper but with tax, may not be worth it.
most of the time is more expensive. Do your research well b4 u go.

eg
http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/sale...=7#centerevents


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 18 2010, 11:17 AM

patryn, how's your jlc atomic clock?

Anybody know what the difference is between Christopher Ward C5 Malvern Aviator Mk II models C5AWT-MK2 and C5AWK-MK2? Specs and price are exactly the same.

C5AWT-MK2
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/aviat.../c5awt-mk2.html

C5AWK-MK2
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/aviat.../c5awk-mk2.html

EDIT - sorry, just realised the straps have different colours... haha...

This post has been edited by Dannyl: Aug 18 2010, 04:01 PM

Hmm looking to get one of those Pilot B-uhr inspired watches..

So which brand offers the best value?

Christopher Ward? ..And some of those other German brands like Stowa, MkII, Archimede, Steinhart, etc

Sinn is a bit more premium than these right?

stowa!!!!!!!!!

Depends on your budget.

Laco - original maker, cheapest (Miyota), pilot strap
Steinhart - good review, value for money, big though (44mm)
Archimede - read not bad review, only got A dial (?)
Stowa - most expensive alll above, prepare to wait and paid vat, good quality, original maker
Sinn - not produciing pilot b

that's all i can think of.

this tax is charged when pay at counter?

thanks..

Hmm Laco doesnt seem to have much choices and yeah Stowa is most ex

I m quite interested in either Steinhart or Archimede...Steinheart is ok and cheaper but doesnt seem to have a Date model

CW is cheapest albeit no watchmaking history as the rest

Any other brands i havent look at?

watch maker still regulating it. maybe can collect this week.
BTW; its an atmos clock. atomic would be very accurate. hehehe

best value...maybe Christopherward since its under RM$1300, uses Top grade movement in soft iron core case.

Archimede is using standard, Steinhart maybe standard. MKII is on elabore. Archimede case is better made.
Stowa is on elabore and its ~RM2K, cost more as its original FLIEGER. among all the original makers I think this best value.
sinn is on elabore grade, but they do a somethings on their cases so it cost more. of course with marketing it does make the brand more renown, but it also pass down the cost to consumers.

few FLIEGER have anti magnetic case. only CW, IWC, Speedbird.. on top of my head.
http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm

history wise. CW, stienhart don't really have much history. CW is youngest brand.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 18 2010, 07:44 PM

oops my bad waiting for your pics and review.

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Added on August 18, 2010, 7:51 pmNo date if you want to closer to the original b-uhr.
Ticino Big Pilot, Miyota movement, assembled in China/HK.
http://www.homageforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=52

This post has been edited by ck77: Aug 18 2010, 07:53 PM

tax! state tax..

thinking to get stowa......any advice here whether is worth to?

certainly worth it!

yea...if you have a serious crush on fliegers and can afford and can wait...Stowa is excellent...seldom people complain...

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Added on August 19, 2010, 9:14 ammeaning when you pay over the counter its included in purchase price? not familiar with luxury items in the states...

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Added on August 19, 2010, 9:15 amck77 now going to clock? hehehehehe

myself maybe looking for a quartz daily beater...maybe preowned Tag F1..

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Added on August 19, 2010, 9:25 amNew Ball..maybe arriving in Malaysia soon...


This post has been edited by nando: Aug 19 2010, 09:25 AM

i wonder why stowa charge so expensive for delivery...its like 59 EUROS!

I'm abit wary on purchasing watches online. There is little recourse if I do get a defetive product be it scratched or whatnot. Not to mention that Tag official website states they do not sell online.

http://www.ballwatchusa.com/collections/en...teriiseries.asp <---- Under Engineer Master II collection, Officer model, what's with the message? Site got hacked by an unhappy customer?

i think its reasonable if its using courier like Fedex, etc.

Nah, just want to learn something new.
Looking for Tag huh? Too bad I've sold my Tag F1 Chrono few months ago

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Added on August 19, 2010, 10:24 amBuy Laco, free Fedex delivery!

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Added on August 19, 2010, 10:27 amTo me if you can save a lot, bare the risk, and the watch is not available in here. Why not?

This post has been edited by ck77: Aug 19 2010, 10:27 AM

Is it? I din know it is tax free in malaysia


meaning?

Met the seller before, forummer bought from them.