interestingly Oris? show off? a brand that focus on outsourcing cases to far east and keeping profit up.
I would get a Bvlgari or Longines. Tag ya... esp the marketing.

just send my spouse oris to get it service thru AD, it cost me US$350!
oris gasket on the crown is attached it the steam, no way to replace gasket alone, need to replace crown and stem that cost ~US$100.

@ a997862, 2K can get Tag F1 non chrono, might as well get the chrono COSC ML on ebay. they are going real cheap. I did post that a few pages back (pg 86 to be exact)
eg


thats the ML watch
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f9/maurice-la...tml#post2412021


This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 1 2010, 07:25 AM

no one competent to replace the gasket. Oris like Rolex restrict parts floating around.
It would cost me US$120 to oil and service it thru local watchmaker.
to check water resistance that should not cost me much. parts they rip U off!

I am also changing from leather to steel that cost me US$90 when I get servicing done thru them, else its US$150!

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Added on December 1, 2010, 7:30 amTissot have a US site that list their MSRP. if U get it thru stores expect ~30% off.
http://www.shoptissot.com/?gclid=CJfz1oXZyaUCFUtA4wodan9rDQ

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Added on December 1, 2010, 12:09 pmluminor feature? 1 of the cheapest maybe UZI, more branded try Traser.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/uzih3trwa.html

http://www.discountwatchstore.com/Tritium-Watches_c_609.html

this is a great buy. on ebay it is going for ~600.
http://www.victorinoxstores.com/victorinox...dorXLManualWind



This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 1 2010, 12:09 PM

have U seen this? I am trying to find a article that say black face isn't suitable for murky water, orange/yellow dial for those analog dial is a better choice iirc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diving_watch

there are reviews on mechanical diver watches, some didn't take the depth it claim and crystal crack, others runs too fast or slow. A digital is the safest bet, its more safety than the fact of breaking an expensive watch.

I believe U misread my reply.digital watches, there is always LED backlight that's never an issue.

not a diver, am just stating what I read. hopefully it is from the Pro that have been doing it for decades. That is why I state iirc and looking for the article.

lume from all non Tritium watches goes dim pretty quick, after 30mins+ its like non existence. Is dive usually short?

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Added on December 2, 2010, 1:29 amair king is the cheapest at ~$14K after discount
picture click!!!
http://www.rolex.com/en/rolex-watches/oyst...el-m114200-0010

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Added on December 2, 2010, 1:41 amUSA LVMH sales started on Tag Heuer ends on Dec 6th
They do not ship out of USA. May have to use Orientwatch USA method to get your watch, using Shipito.com

Access Key: holiday2010
https://www.lvmhpartners.com/

Tag F1 going for US$499

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 3 2010, 12:37 AM

btw: oris has their case and steel bracelet make in china.
I didn't know about it until yrs later. to pay US$90 for the steel bracelet I still feel its costly. Some other AD still dare to quote me US$250!

I wasn't my intend to rock your boat on the Oris TTI, I am just showing examples of watches that are not trying to sub. there are more outstanding ones. eg: Anonimo didn't claim they are watch makers, they make case and special leather that is water resistance! Anonimo watch makers largely come from Panerai.

anyway, I gather U are no longer interested in Oris.
diver watch... go with quartz is best!
don't Suunto make excellent dive watches too? (I am not familiar with their products)

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 2 2010, 12:18 PM

I thought end of the yr, LVMH at KL have same sales on TAG? usually ~50%
anyway LVMH USA is running sales now. if U have seen my post.

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Added on December 3, 2010, 12:40 amEpos little marketing, build quality better than Tissot. Maybe close to ML esp for mechanical they are nicely decorated with blue screws

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Added on December 3, 2010, 12:45 amlooking for a PVD diver. pay peanuts get peanuts.
U wouldn't find good PVD for the price u are paying.
Fossils watches are made in the far east iirc.

I thought U looking for tritium watches?
perhaps don't buy, keep saving and get a better watch


This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 3 2010, 12:45 AM

with regards to peanuts I am not referring to how much one can afford that a different case. I am comparing it to varies brands out there.

its like buying food, can expect to buy peanuts and expect it to taste like abalone. esp one cannot the price of a abalone.

I have to agree Jap did a great job at these lower price pt watches. may it be citizen, Seiko, orient, Casio.

some ppl spend big $$ on watches, others on phones, some on car, others on clothes/shoes. ultimately we have no control what ppl wanna do with their $$ right? LOL

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Added on December 3, 2010, 1:52 amdon't know what to recommend. U need to give some inputs on requirements /style.

overseas - no tax or duty!

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 3 2010, 01:52 AM

check out this Seagull Zenith homage!
http://www.usseagull.com/EnProductShow.asp?ClassID=66&ID=99

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Added on December 3, 2010, 10:57 amhttp://www.discountwatchstore.com/assets/i...30308.19SBB.jpg


http://www.longislandwatch.com/Junkers_Page-2.htm


alot of citizen diver is within your budget.


Orient watch - mako


Wenger watches
http://www.bluedial.com/wenger-watch-aerograph.htm



http://www.longislandwatch.com/Aristo/Aristo-Watches-2.htm



This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 3 2010, 11:08 AM

when is it ending?

congrats! waiting for pics!
http://www.watchseller.com/epemreau.html



This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 4 2010, 12:20 PM

page 1 post 1 do have some info for ppl like your.
Oris doubt it since they cater to the majority, may have 1 or 2 watches that are unisex.
the same with Tissot too.
I don't think Oris or Tissot make unisex watch at 33mm to 36mm today.

I found the Oris Big Crown Pointer Date Unisex Midsize at 36mm. Its not no sapphire crystal but on plexiglass that scratch rather easily.
replace should cost ~RM30-100 with labor.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 4 2010, 08:12 AM

where did u send it for service?
within the 1st 3yrs U should have called lemon and get it exchange for a new watch.
On the zenith forums I am not seeing many post on EP chronomaster issues.
those that have got it quickly resolved by getting watch service in Switzerland.

U could have gotten a Breguet watch if u had not buy a chronomaster.

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Added on December 4, 2010, 8:22 pmquartz watch, no worries. wear it while playing golf no issue.

price range varies from ppl to ppl. what is affordable to me may not apply to U. This is subjective.

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Added on December 4, 2010, 10:01 pmEmail Roland directly: Roland.Kemmner@t-online.de

Octopus 2000
RP ~us$600
made by Roland Kemmner (alot of his projects could be found on ebay)
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/kemmner-o...tml#post3339436



http://www.luxury4play.com/watches/66381-n...ilot-watch.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 4 2010, 10:18 PM

if u have click on the link or saw the email address U know how!

another watch for your consideration
This running on jap movement.
http://www.countycomm.com/maratacpilotauto.htm




another CW sale going on



This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 6 2010, 11:47 AM

I think can complain and get them refund the difference. with the return policy is it just creating more work for them to process return and ship new watches.

Thing is when ppl are buying at 15% off they are also getting a free watch winder. the 5% diff by no means equal to a watch winder. Don't understand why they complain, well everyone wants more with little money.

a good majority of swiss legend mech watches uses Chinese Seagull movement, thing is 51% of the movement is make and assembled in Switzerland which make it swiss made!

the quartz ones are generally running on Ronda.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 7 2010, 07:31 AM

no tax.
what did U get? do post pics when U get it.
silencer also ordered a watch from then a Epos regulator.

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Added on December 7, 2010, 12:44 pmdid U try this email? Wizziethewiz@christopherward.co.uk

do quote your order number and write in as your brother since U're using his card.

I would create a different thread on it. with title "when is C60 shipping, X emails to customer service no replies"
http://www.christopherwardforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5512

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 7 2010, 12:44 PM

tissot are swiss made.
definition on swiss made is 51% of the movement must be made in swiss, watch must be assembled in Switzerland.

what do u mean by better watch?
mechanical or quartz?
mechanical try page 1 post 1. lots of links to good value watches


what's you budget?
there is a seiko thread, here maybe Orient once awhile.
auto watch on leather swiss made try UHR the info is on page 1 post 1.

what is fine? willing to shop online or grey?
Guinand, D freemont makes great watches... qns is do you like the style.
for links check page 1 post 1.

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Added on December 8, 2010, 1:53 aminteresting watch, not many ppl like those 1 hand watch

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 8 2010, 01:53 AM

cooling looking watch! I love their clock, just got 1 2 weeks back. loving every bit of it!
where did U end up buying? damage? buying experience if online?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 8 2010, 10:49 AM

+1 on the Graham. U are darn quick!
how much did U pay for it? do U mind?
Pam is over rated now. pics! pics! on new watch!

post on http://imageshack.us/ and click on the IMG icon next to http:// to insert the URL to the pics

thanx for the PM!