www.stowa.com for good value. as what patryn said earlier, there are many brands out there and page 1 is a list of them. it all boils down to what you are looking for. Wether your looking for a big brand, a good finished watch, or a watch that has resale value.

dont bother panerai. unless your going for their lineup with their own inhouse movements. i do own a panerai and all i can say that there is nothing really special about it. Fit and finish is so-so. And if your looking for brand. Panerai's aint that popular among people our age as well. (i'm in college too). With 4 k, you can get a pontos day date automatic for that price in a local AD. i personally like ML. i find their fit & finish is good and even better than the likes of tag and some of the omegas.

NOS go to varies AD and check them out, no special place other than collectorstime.com (they do not sell Local now, just export even they are base in KL)
still a student, brands like Sinn, Damasko invest in making a good solid case that is harder than regular steel.

it is possible just not big brands such as Panerai, Omega etc.
many brands listed on page one are small markers to keep cost low U can only get the online direct.

plenty of good reviews on fit and finished on these brands.
even Epos, few brands blue their screws. ML pontos are not as nice as their masterpiece collection.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/epos-3241...iew-261096.html

U can get a quality Damasko, direct thru them or
http://www.damasko.de/eng/index.html
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/Product-view.asp?id=27

Sinn 256, U can find it in Hour Glass (someone order it online from sinnwatches.com)
http://www.sinnwatches.com/proddetail.php?prod=si056


or Guinand (high quality movement is Rhodium plated, cost of Rhodium is higher than Gold), can even customize watch, they used to make Sinn watches, perhaps even Bell and Ross. Owner today is founder of Sinn.
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...d=80&Itemid=220


Steinhart watch
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/product-detail.asp?pid=39
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...9&Sel_ID=27#159


back of ML pontos Rhodium plated

older Gold Plated Guinand

newer Rhodium plated Guinand
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/arrival-my...3-a-419038.html

thanks yijzen. i too prefer ML.
btw local AD? means in malaysia? wheres the shop?
nice. means that to get a NOS watch, i'll have to get it online? no other choice?

Yep that's the one I was looking at. Same price as watchco too.

So what's the reason these online shops can offer a much better price? Just being cautious as this is really my first proper watch purchase.

why? they do not have to pay rent or hire alot of ppl.
I am hoping to get a mondaine clock in to satisfy my wait for the nomos
http://www.righttime.com/rt/mondaine/a990.clock.11sbc.htm


love the nomos display back can't wait to see it

Contact the Malaysia Distributer
http://www.mondaine.com/where-to-buy-mondaine/
DKSH Schweiz Ltd.
DKSH Marketing Services Sdn Bhd No. 74, Jalan University
46700 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
Phone:+88 60379660288
Fax:+88 60379544118
Web:http://www.dksh.com

30% is standard ML discount? very cool. @ retail of 2150 chf, I would expect it to be ~4.5K


Frederique Constant Maxime Heart Beat Moon Date, underrated brand that release a tourbillion not too long ago and a few inhouse movement
http://www.azfinetime.com/Frederique-Const...eat-Moon-Date-2


This is at ~US$40K
http://www.luxury-insider.com/Current_Affa...Tourbillon.aspx



This neat at US$48.5K
http://www.worldtempus.com/en/news/events/...-24-silicium-1/

go through forumers virustar and davis. better discount.

can ebay be trusted?

I'm pondering the same thing as some of them have brand new watches at even better prices than the online shops.
I guess if they have a 98+% rating it's less dubious lol.

standard for ML pontos range is around 30%. the masterpiece can sometimes be higher due to promotion. last year theres some "how old are you" event which made it possible to get a 50% discount on the masterpiece. ofcourse not the ones with thier inhouse movements.

can ebay be trusted?

ML do not have many inhouse movement. They are like Chronoswiss using vintage movement and making big improvements on it

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Added on November 16, 2010, 2:25 am
not 100% of course, so long it is not a AD that always raise a few question.
do your research well and u'll be rewarded.

is it? those skeleton movements arent theirs? the maurice lacroix masterpiece squelette. btw patryn have you handled or owned a stowa before? hwos the fit and finish?

ML do not have many inhouse movement. They are like Chronoswiss using vintage movement and making big improvements on it

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Added on November 16, 2010, 2:25 am
not 100% of course, so long it is not a AD that always raise a few question.
do your research well and u'll be rewarded.