RIP Merlion.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 8 2011, 12:07 AM

Yeah.. RIP Kompany..

I post this RIP msg separately both for Kompany and Merlion yesterday night but dunno why it didnt appear.
Maybe some intermittent server saving issue.

For me, to make FS teeth stronger, the FS need to chew or bite on its prey hard to kill fast...

Normal food like bigger fruit flies, medium size house or garden flies or flying ligh bulb insects good for basic teeth bitting exercise.
The medium size insect /flies will struggle hard and makes FS to use more bitting strength to kill them fast.

I normally feed my fs daily to build its body size and weight. After i feel the fs it strong enough, i'll reduce the feeding to 2-3 days once... with other
weaker species of spider or medium insect/flies as its food. When FS is hungry, and its food is bigger or feel its a threat, FS will immediately attack to kill it fast with strong bite. My primary school FS friend prefer feed his King FS with other weaker FS... according to him this way will train the fs bite to kill its opponent fast in FS fight and also makes the FS familiar to bite the weak spot of other FS. Basically i agree with him but i use different species of spider or medium size flies instead, it works well also.

How to have strong pushing power.
Strong legs and arms will give more advantage to give a powerful thrust push...
I train my fs jump many times as far as possible from my finger to its case or anywhere i feel suitable.. this will makes its rear and front leg stronger..
especially when leap and land time..

How about stronger arms?
Let the FS spar with other FS to practice its arm pushing and legs is quite common fs kakis will do.
For me, i also do something extra when have time. eg.. like..
Tap on the my arm slowly and let FS drop down on its web and let it climb up back many times..
FS will climb using its arms and legs....Dont tap to hard till the FS fall down w/o its safety web.. maybe might injured from the fall.
I also use thin string to replace its web for climbing exercise.

How to keep FS healthy and strong?
Let the FS have good rest after fierce fight.
Avoid spar/fight very sick or weak chopster.... might make FS fall sick and weak easily if its immune system cant neutralize it.
Fight with evenly strong or healthy fierce fs or healthy chopster can improve FS fight skill and increase its fighting skill.
FS is teritory dominate type.. more like home ground advantage. Strong FS normally win if fight in their own leaf nest... its opponent normally will get bitten teeth, arm, legs till broke and some get eaten. Get a good dry leaves for FS to make its nest dont change it often.. once the FS treat it as its permanent home.. whenever its comes out and see other males fs, it will fight fiercely.

There are many other tips to improve FS.. its also important as FS kakis, they must know how to identify to potential good fighter, train and take care of the FS well.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 8 2011, 01:08 PM

Replied ady at above..

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Added on September 8, 2011, 1:04 pmThats also why i dun feed cricket to FS.. i find the cricket have sharp torns like on their legs and might some injury to FS legs or arms.
It might be bcoz fought with very sick weak chopster.. I saw some of ur FS fight videos.. some chopsters look really sick and weak..
High risk to infect other healthy FS.

Other possibility.... severe injury or unable to neutralize poison from fierce fight..

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 8 2011, 01:04 PM

Depends on my available free time and also how much i want my FS to win in Fight..

U can read in Fighting spider part 1, i trained my FS before fight with Mindstorm's FS Bighead, Jack, Bro1, etcs..
If my opponent FS is very aggresive and fierce type like Jack... i definitely will prepare my FS well bfr fight.. if not.. sure injured badly or die in fight..

If train properly.. the chance for FS winning and survive in fights will be higher.

Hi Mindstorm.

Wanted to reply this long time ady.. but didnt coz that time i dont feel its important to highlight it....
Now quite free so i'm replying.

If u check the total break time comparison from my FS break time. ... the 2nd FS fight recorded more than 2x++
longer break time extra by 2min 46 secs!

Total break time is 4min 59sec... close to 5 min! Tats a very long break in FS fighting record.
The break time is even longer than total fight time..
Total break = 4min, 59 secs.
Total fight = 4 min 7s!!

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+180
Break details
1.59 - 3.22 = 83s (1min 23s)
4.05 - 6.57 =172s ( 2 min 52s) - Very long break
7.10 - 7.21 = 11s
7.57 - 8.30 = 33s (teeth get bite? very close facing each other)
= 299 secs.
= 4min, 59 secs.


With such a long break time, i feel the fight should already ended much earlier and the break time just drag too long.

If compare to my FS fight.
My FS fight time is longer than break time.. fight longer by 1 min 44s.
Total break = 2 min 13s.
Total fight = 3 min 57s

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/608348/+740
Break details.
2.38-3.17 - 39s
3.52-5.02 - 70s
5.36-6.00 - 24s
Adds up to about 2 minutes 13s

My FS spent time fighting more than resting!

If just take total fight time only to consider as longest fight record without taking consideration of its break time, i feel is quite inappropiate.
If too long break, normally the fight will be disqualified or considered as 2nd/3rd or 4th round already.

Personally i feel my FS fight is still the longest FS fight base on it actual overall fight without taking too long break.

Other FS kakis also feel free to give comments or views.




This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 8 2011, 11:23 PM

Add in the break details

Blackie vs Razer
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/608348/+740
Break details.
2.38-3.17 - 39s
3.52-5.02 - 70s
5.36-6.00 - 24s
Adds up to about 2 minutes 13s

Aso vs Rachet
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+180
Break details
1.59 - 3.22 = 83s (1min 23s)
4.05 - 6.57 =172s ( 2 min 52s) - Very long break
7.10 - 7.21 = 11s
7.57 - 8.30 = 33s (teeth get bite? very close facing each other)
= 299 secs.
= 4min, 59 secs.

Thanks bro Ricky for your view and feedback.

U mentioned u see non of FS show cabut symptom.. u mean retreating and dont want to fight anymore right? but for me i see there was.

In Aso vs Rachet, see the video at 4.05s, one of the FS was push under the leaves and no more energy to go cimb up back to continue the fight. (retreat)
Even when the top FS move down the leaves, both FS are not fighting at all from 4.05s - 6.57 =172s ( 2 min 52s) Dont want to fight

For me, its consider as technical win for the top FS on the stage earlier stage because the fs tat get pushed down from the stage dont have stamina to climb up back to stage continue fighting anymore. As for the top FS going below the leaves, its also lack energy to fight. From there onwards, both FS took 2 mins 52s resting from any active fight.

With seeing these 2 situation:

1) Get pushed down and not climb up back 2 fight (retreat)
2) Not fighting for direct 2mins 52s even when the top FS go down the leaves. (Dont want to fight)

For me the fight was actually over. This makes the fight actually over at 4.05 with the top FS won.

After minus the earlier 1min 23s break.. Actual fight time is only 162s which translates to 2mins 42s.

Can compare to my FS fight both still on the stage fight for 3min 57s and the break time is so much shorter.
Its quite obvious for me which FS fight is longer.

Can read mindstorm comments for Bro1 Vs Jack fight on technical win if FS that get push down from stage and unable to continue to fight.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/608348/+360

See the end part of the fight.



At least in Mindstorm video, both FS still arm locking and do some pushing towards the end of the fight before Jack is too tired to fight anymore and get push down from fight platform. This is a continuous fight without much long breaks.

Total fight time 2min 43sec.

Hope with my explaination + info details, can understand better.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 9 2011, 10:10 AM

U can get banana, mango, papaya or orange fruit,.. put it outside ur house under shaded area.. leave it for awhile or 1 day.. den alot fruit flies will come to eat. Personally i prefer banana or mango..



U can use small case to scoop the fruit flies in for FS to eat..

Its as simple as ABC and it can be completed in less than 1-2 mins.
Choose the big fat juicy fruit flies for ur FS eat...

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 9 2011, 09:27 AM

U are most welcome.

Its every FS kakis wish to hunt for quality and strong FS.
Like u said those good spot location, the FS should have been "well trained" in the wild.

These FS normally went out hunting for food, jumping from leaves, alwys on alert mode look out for it predator, fight with other spider/ants/ insects, etcs. for many hours on its daily or few days routine....to maintain their tip top condition.

At the beginning when we caught quality and strong FS, it will still have all its original strength.
But afterFew weeks in captivity as we keep the fs and put in plastic case, the fs will have limited space to "exercise" or do wat it usually do in the wild.
In my own personal view, the FS arms, legs, fighting will, alertness, might deteriorate and becomes weaker.

That is why i decided to spend few minutes daily to let my top FS "exercise" abit..
-Jump,
-Climb string
-Bite bigger insect as food
-Spar with other weaker male FS
-swim ? .. this one a big mistake. Last time i tried bfr.. some of my FS legs becomes weak and drowned.
- Put in dark area and bring outside to train its alertness.

All these "exercise" i set for my FS to maintain and increase their strength before any big fight.
I'll also make sure my FS have enough time to recover from any spar/fight injury and have good rest before big fight.
This way i feel my FS can give all its best to fight and win.

If i just play for fun.. i just catch, feed and normal spar only.. dun really care so much whether win or lose.

If i want my FS to win in big fight , i'll train my FS hard.

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Added on September 9, 2011, 10:40 pmYeah.. managed to find back the HK T-Sup male FS fights video

HK T-Sub kakis comments on this fight.


This fight quite good. Strong grab and push.


Personally, i also prefer T-Bha FS. If strong and fierce T-Bha FS spar/fight with good T-Sub Fs, i'll support T-Bha FS.
I dont think T-Bha FS will run away/retreat bfr fight, lose in fight easily and end up as food for T-Sub FS because T-Sub FS have much bigger size.

Some says largest T-Sub might reach abt 15mm? Largest T-Bha 8mm only?

Maybe there are other much bigger size T-Bha out there in the wild not discovered yet.
For me bigger size T-Sub doesnt mean good in fight and guarantee will alwys win!
For me its depend more on fighting skill and aggresive lvl among these 2 species FS.

Previously, Bro Yuda brought back the 1st T-Sub male FS but too bad it died the night before sparring day.
Below videos are the 1st time face off recorded between T-Bha FS with T-Sub FS.

Can see the T-Bha FS dare to approach T-Sub (corpse), do arm pushing and teeth contacts.



These videos show that strong T-Bha FS able/dare to fight against T-Sub just like they fight other Thiana species like Rindaman, Genki and etcs.
Only weak lousy T-bha FS will retreat/ scare to fight with T-Sup FS.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 9 2011, 10:42 PM

Thanks for ur views Mindstorm.
"Interesting points you got there, viper. After some thinking, I guess which fight deserves to be deemed as the longest fight really depends on how one views it.
It is subjective."

So back to my earlier main question, which FS fight is the longest fight for u after reading my highlighted points?
Which is ur preferred ways to calculate the time for FS fight in competition?

For point (1)
Fight should still be considered "on-going" as long as there isn't one that runs away

Still remember Gila Vs Lalang fight?


This is a also a very good long FS fight. Long time for leg bitting, arm locking, hugging but can see the FS still put up some "struggle to break free and counter attack every few seconds". There body part contacts from both FS means the fight is still on and as long theres sign the FS still trying break free and do counter attack every now and then, the fight is still on-going.

For me if a FS get bitten at leg, teeth, arms and Totally "Cant move/breakfree""Fainted", no body part contacts for some period of time, the fight should be considered over and FS players should separate these 2 fs.

Just like these FS fight.

Valor Vs Darkmatter. Lalang vs Ajax


Like wat u said, "Eventually the winner fs bite on the loser and held on to it and subsequently ate it, that's why the fight lasted that long".

For point (2)
Technical stop such as time length of resting or falling off the platform.

To wait close to 5 mins bfr separate both FS or wait for the FS have body contact gain to resume fight, i'll find it odd especially to be considered as fighting time.
Its more like dragging the fight unnecessarily waiting for the FS to die (FS tat get disabled) or the FS players purposely allow both FS recover back more energy to continue the fight in round 2 (no body part contacts).

Falling off platform.
U wrote: Actually, the fact that one spider can get pushed off the platform simply means that the platform is not big enough in the first place or the spiders were fighting too near the edge. It does not necessarily mean one spider is losing as fs fighting will go back and forth and often we have witnessed winners retreating in the beginning. And I think it is understandable that after such a long time fighting, a fs would hardly have energy to re-climb the leave, but the fact it tries to means it has still not given up the fight!

For the fight to last till 4.05s on top of fight platform, i feel the platform size is quite good and both FS able to hold well from not falling down or drop from platform.
If see the Robocop vs Cacadon FS fight, its a very good fight where both FS even when push to rear edge few times they will move to side or push back the fight to center.
Some FS tat get push to underneath of platform will still tries to push up back to fight immediatly..

Like this match Hunter get push to rear and almost drop but lucky still have safety web to climb up back and do strong counter attack.


Some other FS fights that get push under platform but still continuing to fight without stopping.


But if the FS tries to climb up but failed and later both FS not moving and dont have any body part contacts close to 5 mins, for me its very obvious the FS cant fight anymore or stop from fighting bcoz exhausted/no more energy (resting). Even if still fight after abt 5 mins of break/resting.. its consider as a new round.
The earlier round already over when the FS stop fighting with no body part contacts.

Just like in a normal fighting competition.. if the fighter fall outside the ring and cant/unable go in back to continue fight eventhough tried,
referee will stop the fight and disqualified him. If both fighters went outside the ring but dont want to fight for long time..
referee will disqualified or annouce its a draw for both fighters.

I alwys apply this general standard fighting rules for FS fight especially for " FS competition type" and "Record fight time".
Constant active body contacts (struggle, move, push), not being disabled too long and not too long continuously and obvious breaks.
Not too long time? For me abt 5 mins is very very long time.

Its more logical and appropiate in my own view.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 13 2011, 07:23 PM

Hi.

Xarms05 or Xarms? Same person different id?

Long time no hear from Xarms since last post in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+740.

Ur english is not bad. No worries. This is just a normal public forum.. not formal type.
Simple, broken english with grammer or spelling error is not a problem at all etc as long ppl can understand is very good ady.

U wrote:
In terms of fighting-wise, T.Sub will surely be stronger than T.Bha. Simply becos of the size difference is too much apart. I can 100% guarantee this, no exception on this.
Very soon, i will bring a good amount of Huge T.Sub Males to SG. Should anyone still doubt T.Sub's superiority over T.Bha, you're always welcome to come forward for a good challenge.
And let SG Kakis have a taste of T.Sub's Real Prowess.

Since u said T-Sub male FS are strong good fighters, can i ask

Why in youtube theres are so many HK FS kaksi posted T-Sub female FS fighting videos instead?.
Its like 95% fights are from female T-Sub and 5% Male T-sub videos? (estimation)
So far i think less than 3-5 videos found for the T-SUb male FS fight.

Why the male FS fight video lasted so short? (estimation abt 10+/- secs)
Good fighters FS species can fight aggresively for long period of time...

Ur HK FS selling price list is for only female T-sub ? Gold cat
http://www.uwants.com/ts_item.php?action=v...&site=2&from=fb
Any price list for T-sub male FS in HK ?
Any good buyer demands for the males T-Sub?

Why most of the HK FS kakis forum talk more on their Female T-sub fights and seems neglected the T-sub male?.
Like in T-bha FS forum, here we only talk more on Male T-bha and seldom post much on t-Bha female because t-bha female dont fight tat well or cant fight..
T-bha female FS is more for breeding or confident boost for the males T-bha.

U wan to bring more T-Sub male to SG so others wont doubt T-Sub's superiority over T-Bha? Free or need to pay?
If need to pay, i think only T-Sub FS kakis will buy from u.
Maybe its better if u or any other HK T-Sub FS kakis can post more exciting T-sub male FS fighting video 1st instead just focus on the female fights to convince
ppl to buy the male T-Sup for fighting. Because, from all the videos i've seen so far... honestly for me it seems like the T-Sub male cant really fight well.
If for pets i think still quite ok.

So far Bro Ura already have T-Sub female and Male FS in SG bought from u...

I dont really see any aggresive fighting will for T-sub FS when face with other male or Female T-bha. Its more like a gentle and friendly species. Fight only when necessary to defend ownself. The recent Face off video posted by Bro Ura..his T-Sub male fighting stance keep changing from defensive mode to curious mode against a weak male T-Bha that only know retreat instead of fighting. Think its too precious for Bro Ura to let his T-Sub male to spar/fight with other average/ stronger or fierce T-Bha male because might get injured or die later. Bro Ura have spent many hours, days and months to get the T-Sub male to reach 8mm size..

If the T-Sub male die or lost in fight against T-bha, it will be a very big blow to him and also other T-Sub FS kakis since its considered as a stronger and superior breed ?

Above are my own personal views/comments abt T-Sub FS fights based on my research, fight videos and other thiania species FS fight experience.

My adv alwys play FS for fun, dun get too serious or sensitive.

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Added on September 10, 2011, 2:46 pmSo many X.... arm new forum member?

X = No
Xarm = No arms?
Xarms = No 2 arms?
Xarmz = No 1 arm Z
Xarmsz = No 2 arms Z
Xarmsx = No 2 arms Z

Sound like FS have 1 or 2 of it arms get ripped off during fierce fight..
Dun play play...

No arms also can fight.. saw the recent FS no 2 arms chopster fight bfr..

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 10 2011, 05:21 PM

Yeah.. its either i accidentally delete it by myself bfr i save it or its time off from the server becoz too long time taken to submit the posting.
Sometimes i replying half way then i go do other things bfr continue back and submit my posting.

Next time i'll save a copy 1st and also try ur adv to chk the Separate box.

I only do the training for my FS like less than few mins ..sometimes 1x, or 2x a day..just a simple exercise for the FS..
I feel it will be better if the FS can stretch its arms and legs rather than just keep inside FS case very long.
I also not recommended to do any intense FS training close to the day before or actual fight day with other FS.
Proper rest is the best.

From ur FS fight videos, ur FS are strong good fighters Theres no doubt at all.
U say want to try my method and make some serious "damage" to other FS? Sure, pls go tried it out.
Maybe u can try fight with any T-Sub Male FS if have the chance because from Xarms05 posting,

"T.Sub will surely be stronger than T.Bha. Simply becos of the size difference is too much apart. I can 100% guarantee this, no exception on this.
Should anyone still doubt T.Sub's superiority over T.Bha, you're always welcome to come forward for a good challenge.
And let SG Kakis have a taste of T.Sub's Real Prowess."

He 100% guarantee T-Sub is stronger and superior over T-Bha Fs.
Its seems for him, theres 0% chance for T-bha FS to win or defeat T-Bha FS due to size difference only.

Thats a very big cannon word .. even i as a FS player also wont boast such thing as 100% guarantee will win or my FS is stronger and more superior even if i have a big size T-bha FS when fight against other smaller size strong/fierce FS.

Remember Jack defeat Bighead? Hope vs Jack?


There are many more power and aggresive fights between T-BHa males FS.
T-Bha FS with strong & fierce fighting skill, fighting will or healthy aggresive T-bha chopster also able to defeat other bigger size FS.

Any1 saw other T-Sub male fierce fight video bfr? Can share here so we can see how well they fight? Other videos all are T-sub females fights...
The earlier T-sub male FS videos i found the fight is just simple and short fight.



From the videos can see so much big different fighting aggressiveness between T-Bha male and T-Sup male.
So what makes T-Sup male FS so special and Xarms05 say this species cant be defeated by T-Bha species?

It just doesnt make any sense at all..

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Added on September 10, 2011, 5:36 pmIn rindaman vs Serizawa.

Serizawa lost to Rindaman and Genji the day bfr and already show sign of kecut..
Tats what happen the next day i record the video, Serizawa dont seems want to fight anymore.

FYI, Serizawa is an average T-bha.. not the fierce type.. can fight and dare to fight abit type.

I also dont want my new Thiania species Rindaman or Genji injured fight against stronger or fierce T-Bha.

As for Genji, its also not a consistent fighter type.. lost to Rindaman bfr.


For me, Rindaman and Genji, i treat them as pet only not strong fighters like other fierce or strong T-Bha.
From their Fight style i can know these 2 cant win if against stronger/Fierce T-Bha FS.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 10 2011, 05:36 PM

Thats the thing. Some ppl think too highly of T-Sub saying its a stronger, superior breed and undefeatable.
T-Sub have super hard arms, legs, abdomen or teeth that cant be penerated by T-bha FS teeth?
T-Sub cant lost in fight and cant get eaten by T-Bha?
Only T-Sub can eat and can beat T-bha?
Somemore say theres no doubt about it and its a fact?
Really a big joke!

A bigger size T-bha FS also can get injured after get bite by smaller T-bha fierce chopster...


See how the T-Bha chopster attack in the video? Simply mind blasting like rocket!

A huge tip top conditioned T.Bha male Chopster fight against T-Sub??
More massive dmg will be inflicted towards T-Sup for sure! 100% sure, no doubt at all!

Its not impossible for T-Bha to defeat T-Sub.

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Added on September 11, 2011, 12:43 amLalang 1 looks quite big size. Good catch.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 11 2011, 12:44 AM

Looks like abt 7mm.

I'm also looking forward to see some exciting "fight" or "spar" between a T-bha FS (can fight type) with T-Sub.
A simple short fight like my T-Bha vs other Thiania species FS videos also not bad.
At least can shows abit how the other Thiania species fighting style and fighting will fare against T-Bha FS.

T-bha vs other Thiania species FS - Rindaman


Dont lar put a "Mak Bon", "Kecut" or "Chicken" type T-Bha FS to spar with T-Sub male.. definitely there wont have any fighting action to see.

T-Bha vs T-Sub corpse videos.. Here at least can see T-bha dare to do arm pushing and flip/throw fight the T-Sub male FS.
These videos already show T-Bha not afraid to exchange bites and fight with T-Sub. Just too bad the T-Sub male is a dead corpse, we dont know wthether T-sub will fight back or run instead after few chops.

T-Bha vs T-Sub (Corpse)


So far these are the only T-sub male vs T-sub male fight videos i can find from Youtube.. Total only 3 fights.

T-Sub male vs T-Sub male




Sometimes i really wonder whether T-Sub males are strong fighter and can give exciting fight like the T-Sub females...

T-sub female vs T-Sub female.


There are so many videos on the T-Sub female fighting in Youtube, the ratio difference are so much that it seems to me the T-sub females are actually more stronger and superior fighter than T-sub males!

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Added on September 11, 2011, 1:52 pmI think u mix up T-Sub with T-Bha or typo error..

T-Sub HK kakis play.
T-Bha Malaysia & SG kakis play

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 11 2011, 01:52 PM

xarms05 wrote:
hello viper88
This ac is I xarms, what problem?
Because my English is not good, help me to find ura English problem?
Why do not we play Golden Flower Hong Kong film?
Because we play ... Golden Flower is not worth so there is no film!!!
You said our gold Benedict male cat so bad (cheap) ...
I can play with it?
I formally viper88 challenge!!!
To see whether gold cat Benedict rubbish as you say so ~

As i expected.. the earlier posting is by some1 else.

This ac is I xarms, what problem?
Because my English is not good, help me to find ura English problem?

There are several Xarms id popped out recently.. old and new ones..so isnt it odd?
I only highlight it out and reply to Xarmsx earlier because its very suspicious seems like other ppl using similar ur nickname to post.

QUOTE(Xarmsx @ Sep 10 2011, 02:25 PM)

To: Kakis who likes XArm   :

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Xarms - New Member - Apr 2011
xarms05 - New Member - Today, 02:22 AM
Xarmz - Validating - Today, 01:48 PM
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Xarmsx - New Member - Today, 02:11 PM - 0

For more information:
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Ura go complaint to u abt my views on T-sub fs den u come here to talk on T-Sub?
"In terms of fighting-wise, T.Sub will surely be stronger than T.Bha. Simply becos of the size difference is too much apart. I can 100% guarantee this, no exception on this. Should anyone still doubt T.Sub's superiority over T.Bha, you're always welcome to come forward for a good challenge.
And let SG Kakis have a taste of T.Sub's Real Prowess."

The English selection words used and posted sound very arrogant and boastful. No doubt on T.Sub's superiority over T-Bha, surely stronger, 100% guarantee, no exception, let SG Kakis have a taste of T-Sub's Real Prowess? Isnt tat a problem?

You said our gold Benedict male cat so bad (cheap), Gold cat Benedict rubbish
Did i say HK T-Sub FS bad (cheap) or rubbish? U are being misinformed by others since u cant read my english properly.
If dun understand, go read properly/ get a better translator to understd properly, dun simply get so work up.

Frankly speaking, my comments are based on the videos posted in youtube by HK T-SUp fs kakis.
My views are:
T-Sub females fight longer, more exciting than the T-Sub males. T- Sub males short fight, not aggresive type.
T-sub females are actually more stronger and superior fighter than T-sub males due to its fight video ratios posted.
All this are based on video facts. Can see with own eyes...

Is this the best u can show T-Sub superior than T-bha?
T-Sub eat T-bha PIC ?

Tat same pic already posted by Ura on Apr 21 2011.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+760

I've already replied there long long time ago.. u can go there and read ..

Hungry time... ppl also can eat ppl.. no big deal. Hungry T-bha chopster also can eat T-sub... No brainer on this.

Recent videos.. T-sub see T-bha no eat, no fight, no aggresive sign.. i only highlight it... it doesnt mean i say T-Sub bad, cheap or rubbish!

T-sub male and T-bha male? No fight also... T-sub male reteat abit at 0.40s..


T-sub female and Male T-bha? No fight.. T-sub female not interested, just move away only


I formally viper88 challenge!!!
Why dont u get urself a real Large T-BHa FS to fight, dont like earlier videos u post in Youtube...


Actually its T-Sub male vs T-sub male but u also cant identified them properly and said its 13mm T.Bha vs 12mm T.Sup....
13 mm T-bha .. lose to 12 mm t-Sup..?

After some T-bha FS kaki and i highlight both FS in ur video have fight pattern similiar den only u change title T-Sub vs T-Sub..
13mm T-Sub can lose to to 12 mm T-sub with just light arm pushing only?

It makes me wonder maybe the one got eaten in pic also a smaller T-Sub? Maybe Smaller T-sub also eat bigger T-sub tat cant fight?

Have u actually see a real true strong T-Bha male FS fight? If not, go see in youtube.. so many power and aggresive T-Bha male FS fight..
Wheres all ur HK T-sub males power fight ? Pls post up if have. Talk is easy.. empty can when drop sound also very loud.

Some T-Sub HK fs kakis also gave comments in other T-sub male fight video..

Translated to english: "Hate this type of perverted Fs, like to play poke only instead of fighting, bigger head than others but scared to fight".

Its the HK T-Sub FS kakis that say bad abt T-Sub male FS in their video, u can understd Cantonese sure u know it..
NOT ME. Get the FACT right!

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 12 2011, 11:01 AM

Thats what i feel, some jokers just cant accpt my views or comments +ve ly..
Cant give any good reply den ask some1 else to come here make a fuss..

I work up? lol.. i only put in my comments in simple words....
Unlike u... keep msn/fb msg me earlier taking things so serious, laugh, give sarcastic remarks , challenge me to reply, tell me not to post my view or comments as though u own this forum topic. Later apologized but later started back again ur childsih act..

Is my words to harsh for u ? U cant comprehend the meaning well for my views on T-Sup?

It seems u are the one that over reacted, sensitive, cant take my view +ve ly and latest go complaint tell Xarms05 with bunch of lies and crap to challenge me?

Take ur Precious T.Sub Male Kazuo to crack a Joke..?

See.. this is ur main problem... since when i take ur T-sub Male as a joke?

What i wrote as can be seen from the videos u posted up, i didnt make joke or fake story.

Did i use any bad words on ur Kazuo? Pls go and re read properly..

U are being very sensitive instead......it shows very well.

Cant take my views/comments +ve manner and ask some1 else to make a fuss DOESNT mean i dont allow Xarms to read and post in this forums.

I just wanted to know why u being so -ve and need others to stand up for u and make things more complicated?

If u dont understand wat i wrote, dun simply assume and twist my words.

This post has been edited by viper88: Sep 12 2011, 11:52 AM

"however if an Arguement can go into this deep, both Parties must be in the Wrong too".

Still want to drag me in again for blame?
Its ur own wrong assumption and being too sensitive over my general view/comments and ur personal attitude/behaviour issues.

Apologize is simple but to chg is hard... heard of saying a FOX cant hide its tail or a cheetah cant hide its spots for long?
U apologized several times to me previously but later start goin back ur old self behaviour.

Other several SG FS kakis already warned me few times before of ur attitude/behaviour issues previously.
I just take their feedbacks openly but now i know its quite true.