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QUOTE(niel @ May 6 2010, 08:39 PM)
About international transaction charges, so far it never appears in my MBB statement or perhaps the charges were added and too insignificant to be noticed. The exchange rates provided are still always better than their counter rate.
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The transaction amount shown in your statement has already factored in the admin fee and currency conversion. Banks won't show the details on currency conversion to you.


QUOTE(eddievh @ May 6 2010, 10:41 PM)
Any Hlb essential user? This card their cash rebate system is base on block of Rm100 is it? Last month i use Rm276,but i only get rebate of Rm2 only,why not Rm 2.70?
Any essential user mind to share your opinion?
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Previously, its 1% cash back was based on demoniation of RM100. That means, you would only get RM1 cash back if you spend RM199. However, I was informed few months ago that you could receive rebate for every single RM1 you spend. I doubt so, as the information was given by a promoter. Furthermore, HLB used to impose stringent T&Cs for all the promotions.


QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 7 2010, 12:37 AM)
Alliance Bank is so far the only bank that doesn't impose any admin fee for overseas transactions and you get 2x Timeless Points.
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Do note that the 2x points on overseas transactions are only applicable to Platinum cards.


QUOTE(ronnie @ May 7 2010, 12:41 AM)
just received a RM5000 cheque from Maybank Credit Card... 0% interest for 6 months (but 3.88% cash advance charge)
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It is a trap. I had rejected so many pre-approved cheques from HLB. Fortunately my existing banks such as SCB, Alliance and MBB do not give (or haven't given) me such rubbish.


QUOTE(HughieRmX @ May 9 2010, 12:55 AM)
Darn it ... just checked my monthly statement and it seems like HLB didn't include the 3X bonus points as mentioned earlier with every CC swipe. Anyone using HLB CC here ?
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Normally, HLB would only update the information on additional points 1 or 2 months later, or after the expiry of the promotion period.


QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 9 2010, 10:42 AM)
Anyway I don't think it is feasible to use Msia CC in SG right?
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If you have a premier account from HSBC Malaysia, it will be easier to get a HSBC cc in Singapore if you work there.
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ May 11 2010, 02:16 AM)
if not mistaken, minimum CL is 20k or 22k
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20k was the old figure. It is much lower nowadays.
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ May 11 2010, 04:56 AM)
oh yea, that was b4 the gst biggrin.gif
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Generally, most banks do not have minimum CL nowadays.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 25 2010, 03:48 PM)
The Citibank New Platinum Cash Back Card
Here (Source : TheStar 25th May)
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It doesn't really excite me much:
1) I presume no reward points will be given
2) 0.3% cash back for "other" spending is simply too little
3) For grocery and telecommunication bills, Amex Gold cc gives 5x points which is equivalent to 2.5% cash back vs Citibank 2.0% cash rebate

Nevertheless, the 5% rebate for petrol is deemed good!
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ May 26 2010, 09:39 AM)
hmm, maybe i will get this for petrol only
for everything eles, there's JustOne and AMEX Gold biggrin.gif
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My car is not a heavy drinker so rebate for petrol is not a main point to consider. Anyway, I may have to terminate my Alliance Visa Plat as I discover that its admin fee on forex conversion is not zero as promised, but also among the highest in the industry! My recent hotel payment was split into 2 concurrently, using Alliance Visa Plat and Amex Gold cc respectively. To my surprise, the currency conversion done by Alliance Visa Plat was 0.6% higher than Amex Gold cc!


Added on May 26, 2010, 9:08 pm
QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 26 2010, 08:51 PM)
We really need a bank to introduce a credit card with unconditional 1% cash back on all purchases with absolute no cap   tongue.gif
They will tell these people to get credit card from other banks instead   biggrin.gif
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HLB Visa Essential. But 1% cash back isn't a big thing to me. I forgo this card.

I reckon SCB JustOne, Amex Gold cc and Alliance Plat (if you spend RM5k per month) are still considered good in today's market.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 26 2010, 10:49 PM)
But someone recently complained that the HLB VISA Essential it is not as simple as advertised. Something about the cash rebate he got was a lot less then what he spent.
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That's why I said, forgo this card. HLB always has stringent T&Cs.
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ May 26 2010, 10:25 PM)
anything lest than 2% is not worth my consideration for now
but i hv to say pbb is catching up with this rebate thingy albeit some TnCs and on certain period only
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I do notice that PBB has been organising attractive cash back promotions since last year. Fortunately PBB keeps renewing the cash back campaign.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 26 2010, 11:23 PM)
Frankly speaking ... I'm considering the new Citibank Plat Cash Back is due to the cool new design ... I'm kindof tired of the boring "Platinum" design theme that most banks use for their Plat cards.

I don't think Citibank's cash back is that bad. Alliance Bank's card is OK but I hated the tiered system and I always pray not needing to call CS as if I'm not mistaken the after office hours shift offers only basic support. Other banks Cash Back system are just to complicated to understand.

Plus they offer enough incentive to hook you up so technically there's minimum risk of you signing up. You don't like the card ... just walk away after a few months.
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This new card is not bad at all, but not good enough. Citibank should be more generous when giving cash rebate to "other" spending. The 0.3% cash back is kind of a letdown.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 27 2010, 12:12 AM)
Hence it is not worth to mention as it doesn't fit the "unconditional 1% cash back on all purchases with absolute no cap". There is still no such credit card in Malaysia.
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Yes, there is! Should you think carefully, Amex Gold cc fits your requirement if 1% cash rebate is deemed a big thing to you. You can redeem your MR points for cash rebate. 200 points = RM1. Amex Gold cc gives x5 points (equivalent to 2.5%) for petrol, grocery and telco bills, as well as x2 points (equivalent to 1.0%) for all other retail transactions.

Anyway, 1% cash back isn't really a big deal nowadays. You can easily get a flat rebate rate of 2.0% or 1.5% if you own Alliance Premium or Plat debit card.


QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM)
This Citibank Plat Cash Back looks like don't have the KLIA Premium lounge access privilege
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It doesn't really matter. I don't think many people will carry this card when travelling abroad, as it gives a mere 0.3% for overseas transactions which are categorised under "other" spending. People apply for this card mainly due to the attractive 5% rebate for petrol.
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Yes, it is quite annoying to see people requesting agents or agents promoting cards directly here.


QUOTE(Lineage @ May 27 2010, 12:03 PM)
For the Unique great rebate..2% cash rebate how is works? let say this month I spend 1000..cash rebate 2%..means I just need to pay 980?
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It has been discussed many times. See the link below.

https://younique.alliancebank.com.my/FAQ.php?page=faq

2% rebate may sound good. But it is based on tier system. If you don't spend RM5k monthy, the rebate you get is insignificant.


QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 27 2010, 01:32 PM)
As mentioned by many other people, AMEX's acceptance is still poor compared to VISA/MasterCard. But of course, when i made that comment earlier, AMEX completely slipped out my mind.

But it's a debit card and as we all know, credit card is still the preferred plastic. Besides, Alliance Bank range of debit card can't be used online.
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For me, I generally use Amex Gold cc for payment of petrol, telco and grocery only. Whilst Alliance Visa Plat is my main card for overseas transactions for cumulative spending of RM5k, in order to maximise the cash back on top of the 2x points given. If my spending has reached RM5k, I will then use Alliance Premium MC Debit Card for 2% rebate.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 28 2010, 10:42 PM)
Credit card or debit card ... it's the same. The merchant charge is the same.
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A debit card is still a VISA or MasterCard, and thus merchant fee applies.
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QUOTE(JJBerry @ May 28 2010, 10:46 PM)
Just get an info that a CC issuer will launch World Mastercard soon in M'sia.
Better keep quiet and just wait or someone will kick my ass.
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If it will be something like CIMB/DA World MC then we should forget it. It has to be something with features better than or similiar to SCB VI.
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QUOTE(jonuslee @ Jun 6 2010, 12:20 AM)
just want to ask ambank cc holder. how do you guys find ambank cc?good in service , promotion and so on?what is the benefit of ambank cc holder?
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I guess Ambank, just like Eon Bank, has improved a lot now. From its aggressive advertisement on newspapers and magazines, we can notice that the bank is trying to improve its branding and increase the market share. It is currently having a 20% cash back promotion. I am not sure about the details but I guess the T&Cs must be stringent.
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ May 26 2010, 10:25 PM)
wow, alliance plat higher than amex gold, no joke shocking.gif
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It's confirmed Alliance charges higher than other bank!

Last week I again used my Alliance Visa Plat to settle my hotel bill in Abu Dhabi, while my colleague used his HSBC Premier MC to pay the hotel bill. We checked out and made the payment at the same time. When I checked my unbilled amount online a few days later, Alliance's figure was 0.9% higher than my friend's HSBC!


QUOTE(Gen-X @ May 29 2010, 09:53 PM)
What is good with SCB VI?
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The card is not good enough to me. That's why I cancelled it long ago.

However, if it is compared to other premium card like CIMB/DA VI or World MC, this card is still better. For example, it gives free travel insurance of up to RM3mil and free travel medical insurance of up to RM50,000 each for cardholder and his/her spouse. No other cards in Malaysia offer such a high premium.
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One-year-old card is accepted.
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QUOTE(x3oNv3 @ Jun 7 2010, 08:49 PM)
really?! so my choice is only limited to HSBC and citibank if i want to use my card in aussie?

uhh, could some body enlighten this? unsure.gif
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No problems, you can use any Malaysian issued CCs in Australia. In terms of card recognition, nonetheless, the 2 banks above are very well recognised worldwide.
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I also received an official offer from SCB today. SCB will grant me 11,000 choice points if I use my SCB JustOne cc at least 3 times by end of this month. This offer is for SCB CCs due for renewal in July. That's very generous!
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 9 2010, 07:07 PM)
Since I don't do banking business with SCB anymore, I don't qualify for SCB VI cry.gif

As for comparing SCB VI to DA, yah DA WMC don't offer Insurance but CIMB WMC does. However it must be noted that both CIMB and DA is free for life where as SCB VI has annual fees of RM800 (correct me if I am wrong). If just for the sake of Insurance Converage, then for a non frequent traveller (for my case) the RM800 is not justifiable as it should cost less than RM800 to get a RM3M policy for travel purposes.
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As long as you are still a Priority Banking customer with SCB, the AF can be easily waived. Very few people are willing to pay AF nowadays.


QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 9 2010, 07:07 PM)
Thanks for the confirmation, save me the hassle to get a Alliance supp MC for my son.

However it must be said that HSBC do no give cash back and Alliance gives 2X points for overseas spending. Therefore, Alliance card "return/reward" is better than HSBC after considering the rate is 0.9% higher (if charged less than RM5K a month limit for Alliance cash back program).
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As I get reimbursement in full from my company, the high admin fee on forex conversion is not really a big issue to me. I am however disappointed over Alliance's dishonest gimmick.

If you think carefully, the 2x points from Alliance bank is actually equivalent to 0.40% - 0.45% cash back only, still far from the additional 0.9% charge.


QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 9 2010, 07:07 PM)
Good to know that SCB also have some kind of program to "offset" the RM50 tax. How much is 11,000 points equal too in terms of RM (for vouchers or cashback).
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SCB requires 10,000 choice points to offset the RM50 service tax. Under the reward programme, you can use 5,000 points to redeem RM25 cash rebate vs 12,000 points for a RM50 voucher. Cash redemption is obviously much better than vouchers.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 15 2010, 04:50 PM)
ambank is not same as citi or hsbc, when u tell them, they terus accept, how
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Same as Alliance. They are not afraid of "threats", even though you are their Privilege Banking customer.


QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jun 15 2010, 05:07 PM)
No need to have a savings account with them. All CIMB Bank principal MasterCard are free for life.
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No. CIMB Enrich MC is not free. You need to request for AF waiver, which is subject to approval.
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QUOTE(hebe87 @ Jun 14 2010, 10:30 PM)
regarding to expresspay (autopayment) by AMEX, is it necessary that the autodebit account holder, ie digi, must be the same person as the card holder? in another word, can i opt for autopayment for other people's  digi bill?
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Yes, you can do that.


QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 15 2010, 08:15 AM)
I forgot to pay my Ambank card on due date and only realised on day 4. Was charged on late charges RM39 and interest of RM44+.
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I am sure the bank will grant you the waiver, if you can give them a solid reason.

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