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post Aug 5 2010, 03:07 PM

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If you want to list out interest dont do this
"Interest : Reading, Cooking, Bedminton ...."
Almost every one is doing this. They just want to show that they have a reading habit and can cook. In thruth most of it is fake. List out something different. Likes say yatching. Make sure you know yatching if you want to list it.
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QUOTE(faceless @ Aug 5 2010, 05:07 PM)
If you want to list out interest dont do this
"Interest : Reading, Cooking, Bedminton ...."
Almost every one is doing this. They just want to show that they have a reading habit and can cook. In thruth most of it is fake. List out something different. Likes say yatching. Make sure you know yatching if you want to list it.
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hmm,i just list out some computing stuff and sports..

but is it employer will look at this section?
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post Aug 5 2010, 03:44 PM

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If it is there they will read it. How much can they know you if you list out some common sports or some interest in computing?
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post Aug 5 2010, 06:09 PM

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not sure then..looks like is either leave out my interests or just write out common interests...
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post Aug 5 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 5 2010, 06:09 PM)
not sure then..looks like is either leave out my interests or just write out common interests...
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As faceless said it's sometimes more to see if you have something "special" that sets you apart from the rest who always put the same stuff.

Personally I never put such section but if they asked for it you have to put something.
Try to think hard about some hobby or activities you do that isnt the "normal" stuff.
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post Aug 9 2010, 02:04 PM

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Hi,

I am in the process of submitting a job application and plan to enclose several recommendation letters from my professors. They are both located at overseas, thus I am not able to get it from them personally. I am thinking about requesting them to mail the signed/stamped letter to me using post, but at the same time, I am not sure if this is a good way considering they might be busy, mailing cost, etc. Any idea or suggestion that I may have overlook?

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post Aug 9 2010, 02:27 PM

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Ask them to scan it and email it. You can list their contact details under your refree section. That way prospective employer can email them to check that the letter are genuine.
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QUOTE(faceless @ Aug 9 2010, 02:27 PM)
Ask them to scan it and email it. You can list their contact details under your refree section. That way prospective employer can email them to check that the letter are genuine.
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oh ya, thanks!! man..i totally forget about scanner tongue.gif
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post Aug 11 2010, 12:05 PM

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Afternoon guys, I'm gonna take a pic later for my resume, and would like to ask a few questions

Blazers: A must? What does HR ppl/recruiters think of this?
Pose: Conventional/unconventional?
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post Aug 11 2010, 03:17 PM

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Blazer: Optional
Pose: Conservative

Blazer for photo had been quite common since most photo studio has it. It is neutral when in phots. Does not create good impression nor will it leave a bad impression.

Blazer for interview will be greatly overdressed.
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post Aug 14 2010, 02:25 PM

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Hi,

I've just went through internship with this company for a period of 3 months starting early January this year.

Recently, I went back there and was verbally offered a job interview.

As I'm about to grad next month or so. May I know how can I make use of the experience I had with the company to get me the job.

As my results in College/Uni is not that flattering, Should I just put it in my resume?

Should I include the things I did in that company in my portfolio? Or include the recommendation letter the supervisor gave me when I finished my Internship with that company?

Plus the certificate that says 'certify that ABCDE has attended this and that seminar/program/workshop' whether related or not to the job a plus point?

Thanks
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post Aug 15 2010, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Aug 11 2010, 03:17 PM)
Blazer: Optional
Pose: Conservative

Blazer for photo had been quite common since most photo studio has it. It is neutral when in phots. Does not create good impression nor will it leave a bad impression.

Blazer for interview will be greatly overdressed.
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With regards to blazer, if it's for the big time MNCs and "Guai Los(foreigner)" interviewers not wearing a blazer is UNDER-DRESSED to them. (probably dependent on the position you're applying as well)

Actual Situation:-
( Do note that I was wearing a long sleeve shirt with a tie, and apparently that's not enough. )
* exchange of simple pleasantries *
Guai Lo: Well, usually during an interview I would be wearing a suit but it's "casual friday" .
Besides, it appears that you're not formally dressed at well.
Myself : Haha, well I believe that in Malaysia, wearing a suit(blazer) would be ill-advised due to the weather.
Guai Lo: That's no excuse. We're not having an interview on the hot sun. We are in air-conditioned room.
Myself : * stun expression * I see. Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind for any future meetups and interviews.

Fortunately, I still manage to get the job.

( Assuming it's hot in the meeting room, just tell the interviewer and ask whether he minds that you take out the blazer. (That itself is another plus-point for yourself in speaking your needs & getting comfortable).
Side note: Speaking of which, I just notice out of the 5 interviews I went, 3 of the interviewers were wearing suit/overcoat. That's more than 50% probability!!? So why do you want to give the edge to other candidates. Be different and stand out(professionally and not in a bad way).





QUOTE(watdafuk_abn @ Aug 14 2010, 02:25 PM)
Hi,

I've just went through internship with this company for a period of 3 months starting early January this year.

Recently, I went back there and was verbally offered a job interview.

As I'm about to grad next month or so. May I know how can I make use of the experience I had with the company to get me the job.

Answer: Explain the details as if it's a normal job but with the added tag (Intern)

As my results in College/Uni is not that flattering, Should I just put it in my resume?
Answer: Just put what "degree and major that you have". I did that as well .. smile.gif

Should I include the things I did in that company in my portfolio? Or include the recommendation letter the supervisor gave me when I finished my Internship with that company?

Answer: Yes, no harm in that. But K.I.S.S(Keep it short & simple).


Plus the certificate that says 'certify that ABCDE has attended this and that seminar/program/workshop' whether related or not to the job a plus point?
Answer: Depends on the type of certification. Motivation, King Scout, Leadership Training & etc will definitely be a plus point.

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post Aug 16 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(zalmerox @ Aug 15 2010, 04:02 AM)
With regards to blazer, if it's for the big time MNCs and "Guai Los(foreigner)" interviewers not wearing a blazer is UNDER-DRESSED to them. (probably dependent on the position you're applying as well)

Actual Situation:-
( Do note that I was wearing a long sleeve shirt with a tie, and apparently that's not enough. )
* exchange of simple pleasantries *
Guai Lo: Well, usually during an interview I would be wearing a suit but it's "casual friday" .
            Besides, it appears that you're not formally dressed at well.
Myself  : Haha, well I believe that in Malaysia, wearing a suit(blazer) would be ill-advised due to the weather.
Guai Lo: That's no excuse. We're not having an interview on the hot sun. We are in air-conditioned room.
Myself  : * stun expression * I see. Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind for any future meetups and interviews.

Fortunately, I still manage to get the job.

( Assuming it's hot in the meeting room, just tell the interviewer and ask whether he minds that you take out the blazer. (That itself is another plus-point for yourself in speaking your needs & getting comfortable).
Side note: Speaking of which, I just notice out of the 5 interviews I went, 3 of the interviewers were wearing suit/overcoat. That's more than 50% probability!!? So why do you want to give the edge to other candidates. Be different and stand out(professionally and not in a bad way).
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I have not seen the standard for office attire gone up a notch (blazers). In fact with things like casual fridays the standard has done down. If it matters that much I dont think you will get the job. I would had asak if that was the dress code for the position I applied. As this way the key question rather than to tell him Malaysia's norm. If he answered yes. I would assure him I will come in suit and tie when I report for work.

Having worked in a western country, I do not look highly on people who take their coat off. Their summer can be hotter than us here at times. They are discipline enough to keep the coat on. Have you seen stupid mat salleh walking around in suit and tie in our afternoon sun? Well, that is the discipline to the dress code. I do not know if you also pay attention to taboos like losening the tie around the neck.
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:24 AM

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It depends of the company and the job yes, if its anything customer facing or if it's just the company's policy then yes, taking out the jacket during an interview or coming without one can be badly seen for westerners.

Depends of the field also, I personally work in IT and the dress code tend to be a bit more "lenient" than in other industry like banking or finance, customer facing or not, it's a different "attitude"
I would personally prefer to be overdressed for an interview than underdressed.

Like if you arrive in a suit and you see your interviewer is only wearing a shirt (no tie or jacket), then you can consider taking off the jacket and putting it on the back of your seat, or ask first if they mind.
To "level" the field with your interviewer (and be more comfortable yourself if you arent used to wearing a jacket).

Loosening the tie is usually considered quite a bad thing to do yes, if you wear a tie, wear it properly 100% of the time.
It's better to not wear one than wear a loose one definitely!

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post Aug 18 2010, 12:19 AM

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I have one quick question before submitting my job application to the HR department:

Do I need to enclose along copies of my certificates with my CV and cover letter?

Thanks.
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:17 AM

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I do not do it due to costing reason. I think what you write in your resume is what attracts HR to shortlist your for interview.
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post Aug 20 2010, 01:06 PM

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after so many info i heard,looks like referee is an important role in resume especially for fresh graduate in australia..
so i managed to find the Dean of my course department at my previous college to become my referee but she just changed her job to other university.

so the question is should i list my referee's previous and present position together?
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post Aug 20 2010, 03:06 PM

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Lsit only the present.
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QUOTE(faceless @ Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM)
Lsit only the present.
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just curious that will the employer wondering whats the relation between me and the referee since the position of my referee not related with me?
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If you put relationship they can figure out that the prof has switch job.

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