This post has been edited by hans.excel: Sep 25 2008, 05:59 PM
Cover Letters / Resume (CVs), One Stop For ALL
Cover Letters / Resume (CVs), One Stop For ALL
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Sep 25 2008, 05:58 PM
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if you have the nerves, just call up the company and ask for the person's name. normally it is easy to get if the company has a receptionist.
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Sep 26 2008, 12:45 AM
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Y not get examples / samples from netS?
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Sep 26 2008, 10:52 AM
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Oct 20 2008, 10:31 PM
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Everyone,
I have an unusual question. It's about someone I know who quit his IT support job about 2.5 yrs ago due to mental illness. Now after treatment & medication, he has regained control of life & feels ready to rejoin the industry. Good news is, He hasn't really forgotten everything he learnt. He is 29 yrs old with few yrs of IT work exp. Obvious problem: How does he account for this huge 2-3 years gap in resume? Surely you don't expect him to mention that mental illness in the resume? |
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Oct 21 2008, 01:27 PM
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hi,
I'm a student of aircraft maintenance engineering and i would like your help in finding any HR email of oversea airlines company... I'll be finish my studies end of this year... do PM me... thank.... |
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Oct 21 2008, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Oct 20 2008, 10:31 PM) Everyone, Depends, what was the mental illness? Did he pose a danger to others? and does he have written clearence from a doctor that he's OK?I have an unusual question. It's about someone I know who quit his IT support job about 2.5 yrs ago due to mental illness. Now after treatment & medication, he has regained control of life & feels ready to rejoin the industry. Good news is, He hasn't really forgotten everything he learnt. He is 29 yrs old with few yrs of IT work exp. Obvious problem: How does he account for this huge 2-3 years gap in resume? Surely you don't expect him to mention that mental illness in the resume? Assuming everything is OK - it should NOT count against him, but at the back of an interviewer's mind, it probably will. How I would play it is don't mention the illness in the resume. Just put down the 2-3 year gap and leave it as it is. As and when the interviewer asks - and he will, it gives your friend a chance to explain himself, and sell the fact that it shouldn't matter anymore. Good luck. |
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Oct 22 2008, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Oct 20 2008, 10:31 PM) Everyone, I would cover it up as much as I could.I have an unusual question. It's about someone I know who quit his IT support job about 2.5 yrs ago due to mental illness. Now after treatment & medication, he has regained control of life & feels ready to rejoin the industry. Good news is, He hasn't really forgotten everything he learnt. He is 29 yrs old with few yrs of IT work exp. Obvious problem: How does he account for this huge 2-3 years gap in resume? Surely you don't expect him to mention that mental illness in the resume? Don't be nice and honest out there, the world is always harsh. On the surface, potential employers may seem not to be bothered, but in reality it will definitely be an issue. It's a risk to the employer after all. Your friend is lucky enough to recover, he should give himself the best chance in career and life by moving on and erase that chapter from his life. Nobody is gonna know. Create a good story, took gap years to go backpacking around different continents etc. |
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Oct 24 2008, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(friedbeef @ Oct 21 2008, 01:33 PM) Depends, what was the mental illness? Did he pose a danger to others? and does he have written clearence from a doctor that he's OK? Assuming everything is OK - it should NOT count against him, but at the back of an interviewer's mind, it probably will. How I would play it is don't mention the illness in the resume. Just put down the 2-3 year gap and leave it as it is. QUOTE(prancingHORSE @ Oct 22 2008, 12:52 AM) I would cover it up as much as I could. thanks both for your constructive advice.Don't be nice and honest out there, the world is always harsh. On the surface, potential employers may seem not to be bothered, but in reality it will definitely be an issue. It's a risk to the employer after all. Your friend is lucky enough to recover, he should give himself the best chance in career and life by moving on and erase that chapter from his life. Nobody is gonna know. Create a good story, took gap years to go backpacking around different continents etc. He is in no way a danger to others, the illness just takes away his ability to enjoy a normal life. Like you both, I am also leaning towards a cover up. Mental illness in Malaysia is still badly misunderstood & carries a negative stigma. I'll advise him accordingly. Since I'm decent at making up stories, perhaps I'll lend him a hand with that too |
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Oct 24 2008, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Oct 24 2008, 03:37 PM) thanks both for your constructive advice. Hi, I'm not leaning towards a cover up. Bear in mind that you will probably be asked in the application form about history of mental illness and you would have to lie about it if you cover up - which is grounds for dismissal should you ever get found out.He is in no way a danger to others, the illness just takes away his ability to enjoy a normal life. Like you both, I am also leaning towards a cover up. Mental illness in Malaysia is still badly misunderstood & carries a negative stigma. I'll advise him accordingly. Since I'm decent at making up stories, perhaps I'll lend him a hand with that too If your friends exhibit no symthoms anymore, and would be able to proceed then he might be able to get away with it. I am an advocate of honesty in a resume, so I can't openly endose lying on an application, but I can see where unfair discrimination can easily take place, even if it has zero impact on any future employers. Good luck to your friend. |
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Oct 29 2008, 09:27 PM
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Eeks, cover-up is a bad option ... one lie leads to another to another and on and on. I agree with friedbeef that honesty is best .... and it may even be an advantage for your friend because he can talk about how he overcame the odds to straighten himself out mentally .. that I think is really positive!
Look, if he gets rejected because of that, it will be a blessing in disguise cos only professional and mature bosses or companies will be able to recognise the strengths and abilities of your friend. |
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Nov 18 2008, 03:54 PM
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thanks for sharing...
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Nov 19 2008, 11:21 AM
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hoho ... thanks alot..
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Dec 18 2008, 03:43 AM
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thanks for sharing.very useful
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Dec 21 2008, 03:47 AM
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hai TS,
if the applicant with 2nd lower or 3rd class CGPA apply for the position that requires above 3.00,is it better if they don't mention it on their resume? |
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Dec 21 2008, 04:10 AM
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yup
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Dec 21 2008, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(arone @ Dec 21 2008, 04:47 AM) hai TS, i never state my CGPA in my resume, most company's are doing like that only to scare the lower CGPA student, they are only looking for the skill sets and the technical knowledge that u have.. if the applicant with 2nd lower or 3rd class CGPA apply for the position that requires above 3.00,is it better if they don't mention it on their resume? This post has been edited by ilyas_jamal: Dec 21 2008, 12:31 PM |
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Dec 21 2008, 03:42 PM
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but the hr know that they're not qualified if no CPGA stated on resume rite?
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Dec 21 2008, 04:27 PM
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Dec 22 2008, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(arone @ Dec 21 2008, 03:42 PM) Writting down CGPA is a method to weed out the unqualified applicants. It is the same with stating the salary. In this case, if you state a lower CGPA, you will be automatically dropped. They wont spend anytime in reading the rest of what you have to say.The trick here is to start off with what you have that can create an interest. You've gotta highlight your achievements and your strengths first. If your strengths excite them enough, if wouldn't matter what the CGPA is. cheers! |
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Dec 22 2008, 11:43 AM
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so,need to be lucky?
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