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Enquiries/Recommendations Best Laptop for RM 2500.00 Nett or below, pls recomemnd me with models..thx.

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TSfastreader
post May 8 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Arcueid000 @ May 8 2010, 04:41 PM)
188tx - reason is because there is a gpu. altho 5340 is entry level, but sufficient for the things u mentioned u r gonna use ur laptop for.

also, i've come to notice that those entry level i3 and i5 does makes very little difference in performance as long as u got a whole bunch of ram.

abt heating issue, compaq does haf a slight heating issue (i mean those cq 42 series). im using 177tx and i notice there is a significant amt of hot air at the vents eventho im just fb-ing and mafia war-ing. however easily overcome with a cooling fan and unless u r gonna use ur lappie in an oven, i dun think it posed any explosion hazards. wink.gif
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so for this entry level GPU, would it be comparable/similar to integrated ones with the i5 processor?...or it is STILL better to get the 5430?..

because IF the 5430 is nearly the same performance with the integrated GPU from the i5 processor, then i mite as well get the i5 machine from Acer...cos:better proc,similar GPU performance...and i will add in 2Gb ram(making it 3 Gb)... smile.gif

so what do u tink?..is the integrated GPU for i5 processor similar to 5430?...and is it worth it to get a 5430 than the integrated GPu for the i5 processor?..

pls advise...

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Added on May 8, 2010, 7:50 pmpls advise me...

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post May 8 2010, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 8 2010, 03:28 PM)
laugh.gif it is hard for me to choose...no preference for design or weight..just function over form...

so which would u choose?..the acer or the compaq?..

btw, i notice in ur siggy u own an Acer...how's it?..heating issue?.. biggrin.gif dun mind to share ur honest review about it..


Added on May 8, 2010, 3:29 pmam reading ur review..no worries... tongue.gif high end stuff dude...
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For me, first I will eye for the spec...then the design...then the comfortability when u're using it such as the keyboard, LCD, battery and ports....
My 4820TG have no problem with heat for the time being...I'm loving it every second I'm using it...love the thin design...eh high end stuff? Where got? hmm.gif sweat.gif
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post May 9 2010, 01:09 AM

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there is definitely significant difference. but if u asked to what extent,i think that depends on how u can accept the graphics (very subjective to different individuals).
but as far as ur intentions with ur 'future lappie', i dont think it will make any significant difference. however my bet is still with an external gpu. u get more of ur proc to do some other stuff than rendering graphics. never know when u need ur proc to do something else...
and jus fo references, its better u head to intel website and check both the proc. there are alot of overlapping processor from them lately. eg. take some of the higher end i3, compare with a entry level i5. they are practically the same! similarly for the i5s and i7s.
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post May 9 2010, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Arcueid000 @ May 9 2010, 01:09 AM)
there is definitely significant difference. but if u asked to what extent,i think that depends on how u can accept the graphics (very subjective to different individuals).
but as far as ur intentions with ur 'future lappie', i dont think it will make any significant difference. however my bet is still with an external gpu. u get more of ur proc to do some other stuff than rendering graphics. never know when u need ur proc to do something else...
and jus fo references, its better u head to intel website and check both the proc. there are alot of overlapping processor from them lately. eg. take some of the higher end i3, compare with a entry level i5. they are practically the same! similarly for the i5s and i7s.
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leaving my proc to do other thing?..would i5 do the job better, since it got turbo boost?..but the i5 model from acer is integrted gpu...

anyway, in ur most honest opinion, which would u go for urself?...

Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB

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Acer Aspire
i5-430 processor
Integrated GPU
1GB(will be upgraded to 3GB) 320Gb...
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post May 9 2010, 01:43 AM

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the turbo boost is 'up to ur proc to decide'. u cant get it to turbo boost 24/7. eg. as to when and where ur processor 'feels' like it needs additional processing power, then it will go into turbo boost mode.

my call will still be the external gpu, i.e 188tx.

just fyi, with ext gpu, it drains battery faster.
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post May 9 2010, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(Arcueid000 @ May 9 2010, 01:43 AM)
the turbo boost is 'up to ur proc to decide'. u cant get it to turbo boost 24/7. eg. as to when and where ur processor 'feels' like it needs additional processing power, then it will go into turbo boost mode.

my call will still be the external gpu, i.e 188tx.

just fyi, with ext gpu, it drains battery faster.
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oic.so in a way outta our control lah..ouccchh..tat sux...


hmm.gif hmm.gif a sifu had chosen the Compaq with the dedicated GPu...seems like tat would be the real deal then...

its alrite with the battery...mostly will b using power...

BUT will external GPU produce more heat?...by a lot..or juz slightly more heaty than an integrated GPU?... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif



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post May 9 2010, 12:19 PM

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dear sifu and experts..do help to advise me... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post May 9 2010, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Arcueid000 @ May 9 2010, 01:09 AM)
there is definitely significant difference. but if u asked to what extent,i think that depends on how u can accept the graphics (very subjective to different individuals).
but as far as ur intentions with ur 'future lappie', i dont think it will make any significant difference. however my bet is still with an external gpu. u get more of ur proc to do some other stuff than rendering graphics. never know when u need ur proc to do something else...
and jus fo references, its better u head to intel website and check both the proc. there are alot of overlapping processor from them lately. eg. take some of the higher end i3, compare with a entry level i5. they are practically the same! similarly for the i5s and i7s.
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you mean external GPU docking station?

if yes, it not worth it.
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post May 9 2010, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 9 2010, 01:11 PM)
you mean external GPU docking station?

if yes, it not worth it.
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naw..wat he meant was the dedicated GPU...

anyway, Mr Doc...

will ededicated GPU produce more heat?...by a lot..or juz slightly more heaty than an integrated GPU?...

model in question are:
Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB

OR

Acer Aspire
i5-430 processor
Integrated GPU
1GB(will be upgraded to 3GB) 320Gb...
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post May 9 2010, 01:53 PM

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as far as the laptop stack-up is concerned, a dedicated gpu does generate more 'distributed' heat (i.e. ur proc doesnt generate all the heat). then again, as long as u dont block the venting holes, it shouldnt the least bit affect ur decision.
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 9 2010, 01:39 PM)
naw..wat he meant was the dedicated GPU...

anyway, Mr Doc...

will ededicated GPU produce more heat?...by a lot..or juz slightly more heaty than an integrated GPU?...

model in question are:
Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB

OR

Acer Aspire
i5-430 processor
Integrated GPU
1GB(will be upgraded to 3GB) 320Gb...
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actually its not about how high heat generated by those GPUs or chipset but how well is the ventilation for the heat to be blown.

and to answer that, you need to physically look at it or find some review about it smile.gif
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post May 9 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Arcueid000 @ May 9 2010, 01:53 PM)
as far as the laptop stack-up is concerned, a dedicated gpu does generate more 'distributed' heat (i.e. ur proc doesnt generate all the heat). then again, as long as u dont block the venting holes, it shouldnt the least bit affect ur decision.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 9 2010, 01:55 PM)
actually its not about how high heat generated by those GPUs or chipset but how well is the ventilation for the heat to be blown.

and to answer that, you need to physically look at it or find some review about it smile.gif
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oic...so it still needa depend on the design lah...ok ok...
if tat's the case, we forget about the heat..since i dun reli know how to check the disign too..and asuming both wun generate so much heat since its entry level machine.. tongue.gif

Considering best bang-for-buck factor...
which would be a better buy?..both are same price..purpose of use: movie,surfing, skype, mafia wars(facebook game)...

Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB

OR

Acer Aspire 4740
i5-430 processor
Integrated GPU
1GB(will be upgraded to 3GB) 320Gb...

which would be the ideal ones for the best bang-for-buck factor?...ignore the heat factor.. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post May 9 2010, 02:08 PM

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i am interested with compaq cq42 series oso , can anyone provide some actual picture of that series here? coz saw in newspaper the design is different with cq41 series, the cq42 looks like apple 's mac book hmm.gif no time to go shopping yet ....


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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 9 2010, 02:04 PM)
oic...so it still needa depend on the design lah...ok ok...
if tat's the case, we forget about the heat..since i dun reli know how to check the disign too..and asuming both wun generate so much heat since its entry level machine.. tongue.gif

Considering best bang-for-buck factor...
which would be a better buy?..both are same price..purpose of use: movie,surfing, skype, mafia wars(facebook game)...

Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB

OR

Acer Aspire 4740
i5-430 processor
Integrated GPU
1GB(will be upgraded to 3GB) 320Gb...

which would be the ideal ones for the best bang-for-buck factor?...ignore the heat factor..  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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i recomend u choose Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB

This post has been edited by xk2: May 9 2010, 02:09 PM
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post May 9 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 9 2010, 02:08 PM)
i am interested with compaq cq42 series oso , can anyone provide some actual picture of that series here? coz saw in newspaper the design is different with cq41 series, the cq42  looks like apple 's mac book hmm.gif no time to go shopping yet  ....


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i recomend u choose Compaq CQ42-188T
i3-330 processor
ATI 5430 GPU
2Gb, 320GB
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yeap..i've seen the actual product in retail shop..it is really beautiful..suitable for us lady.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif and all the pattern around it is nice too...i like the skin color too...at least not as boring as the usual black or white...its actuially cream color...go chck it out and u will fall in love with it.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


BUT then Acer aspire 4740 is stealing my heart with the i5 processor...both same price le...
so..which would be a better choice?..

the acer with i5(integreated GPu) or the compaq with i3 and dedicated GPU?.. hmm.gif hmm.gif




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post May 9 2010, 02:36 PM

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lol you do want to take in 'alot' of considerations prior buying dont u?

if u r considering the processor, why dont u head to intel website and see the differences in the i3 and i5 offered in both machines? they have a comparison chart where u get to see what both can offer. i5s have the HT where u can get 'virtual' cores for multitasking. i.e i5 m430 is a dual core processor but if u open ur task manager, u will see 4 cores. 2 virtual duplication of both physical cores. if i am not wrong, only the most high end i3 has that feature.

and i do agree with u, the design is not as boring as other laptops with just black and white colors.

to xk2:
i doubt u can find any pictures in websites. even hp website doesnt offer images for cq42
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post May 9 2010, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 9 2010, 02:16 PM)
yeap..i've seen the actual product in retail shop..it is really beautiful..suitable for us lady.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  and all the pattern around it is nice too...i like the skin color too...at least not as boring as the usual black or white...its actuially cream color...go chck it out and u will fall in love with it.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
BUT then Acer aspire 4740 is stealing my heart with the i5 processor...both same price le...
so..which would be a better choice?..

the acer with i5(integreated GPu) or the compaq with i3 and dedicated GPU?.. hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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see it this way... ur computer is as fast as the slowest hardware...

give u quad core but integrated graphic, it's still not match to a dual core with dedicated GPU...

as far as flash is concerned (Youtube), it's better to ve dedicated graphic... afterall when comes to GPGPU (in ur case, rendering flash with GPU), NV and ATi are still way better than Intel...

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QUOTE(astria @ May 9 2010, 02:40 PM)
see it this way... ur computer is as fast as the slowest hardware...

give u quad core but integrated graphic, it's still not match to a dual core with dedicated GPU...

as far as flash is concerned (Youtube), it's better to ve dedicated graphic... afterall when comes to GPGPU (in ur case, rendering flash with GPU), NV and ATi are still way better than Intel...
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thats the basic smile.gif
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well, 1 thing's for sure... the WEI Of the CQ42 is gonna be higher than the 4740...
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post May 9 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Arcueid000 @ May 9 2010, 02:36 PM)
lol you do want to take in 'alot' of considerations prior buying dont u?

if u r considering the processor, why dont u head to intel website and see the differences in the i3 and i5 offered in both machines? they have a comparison chart where u get to see what both can offer. i5s have the HT where u can get 'virtual' cores for multitasking. i.e i5 m430 is a dual core processor but if u open ur task manager, u will see 4 cores. 2 virtual duplication of both physical cores. if i am not wrong, only the most high end i3 has that feature.

and i do agree with u, the design is not as boring as other laptops with just black and white colors.

to xk2:
i doubt u can find any pictures in websites. even hp website doesnt offer images for cq42
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laugh.gif i got around 1-2 months to make my decision mah..so can slowly analyse the product out there and discuss it here... tongue.gif no hurry after all..

QUOTE(astria @ May 9 2010, 02:40 PM)
see it this way... ur computer is as fast as the slowest hardware...

give u quad core but integrated graphic, it's still not match to a dual core with dedicated GPU...

as far as flash is concerned (Youtube), it's better to ve dedicated graphic... afterall when comes to GPGPU (in ur case, rendering flash with GPU), NV and ATi are still way better than Intel...
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QUOTE(astria @ May 9 2010, 02:48 PM)
well, 1 thing's for sure... the WEI Of the CQ42 is gonna be higher than the 4740...
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hmm.gif hmm.gif by the sounds of it..seems like the compaq with dedicated gpu would be the worthy buy now... rclxms.gif

since i believe my usualy sue would include youtube...moviesss... biggrin.gif

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post May 9 2010, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ May 9 2010, 02:48 PM)
well, 1 thing's for sure... the WEI Of the CQ42 is gonna be higher than the 4740...
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what's WEI?..the weight?.. icon_question.gif

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