Looking for bmw 328i. Any discount promotion for this model atm?

Most showrooms are offering discounts of between 10-15K for various 3 Series models because of the upcoming facelift models.

thanks. Any special changes for thee facelist models?

Look for pre-registered ones or those from premium selection (AB Glenmarie).

The main changes:

1) New Euro 6 engines with more torque. New 320i comes with 184Hp, 290Nm (currently its 270Nm)
2) Updated 8 speed Steptronic with Proactive Driving Assist (PDA)
3) Improved chassis
4) Additional damping
5) Stiffer suspension
6) Retuned steering for better handling
7) Redesigned front and rear lights
8) Redesigned bumper

Current 316i will be replaced by a 318i but engine capacity is down from the current 1.6L to 1.5L turbo but with identical output figures (136Hp, 220Nm).

New Audi A4 2.0L model also launching this year. 190Hp, 320Nm.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Aug 5 2015, 01:32 PM

Thanks for the detail explanation!!

I check with AB Glenmarie when they are having a roadshow in BSC. They said either September or October.

This post has been edited by DanielKLProperty: Aug 5 2015, 07:16 PM

I hope I got enuff $$$ to burn, which I dont foresee anytime soon

Power is the same as both are 2.2 L. E90 will accelerate a little faster cos of lighter body. I had the E39 2.2L engine. Maintenance will be high on a used BMW. You must set aside $20K on top of sale price, if you want your Bimer to run like one!

IMO for that kind of money you are better of with a brand new 408 or Jetta. These cars come with 5year warranty. If you do the math, at the end of 5 years the Bimer would have cost a lot more, cos of yearly high maintenance. Whilst you don't spend a cent on spares with these new cars cos of 5 year warranty.

Another very big factor is performance and driving dynamics. Both these cars, although smaller engines, will blow away the Bimers, due to their high tech engines. Their turbo engines produce more power, full torque at low end which will smoke the Bimers on acceleration.

Sports tune suspension and steering feedback on the Pug is at another level, you feel like driving a sports car. Even the F30 steering feedback is not as good as the Pugs! The Jetta's steering is slighter lighter and a bit of body roll,but certainly a whole lot better than Bimers. E90 has very poor steering feedback!

In the end, you have a fantastic ride with lower maintenance. In 5 years definitely not a hole in your pocket! Just my 2cents worth. Happy hunting!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Aug 6 2015, 10:58 PM

But the both are not BMW...

Sorry but I can't help but ask, are you really sure?

How can you compare that a hydraulic steering has poor steering feedback compared to the electric steerings on the Pug and VW?

Are you really really sure?

You should read up on the differences in electric vs hydraulic steering

I guess if you must have a BMW,than there is nothing more to discuss. Both the Bimers of your choice are good, E60 for class, E90 for driving pleasure. Be prepared for high yearly maintenance.

For today, both are considered underpowered. That's why I suggested the Jetta or Peugeot, for about the same budget. Both these cars have better driving dynamics.

However ppl like my brother must have a Bimer,no matter what! He's moved from E90 to F30 (328i).

What i've said so far is only IMO. I've read extensively, before putting my money down and signed the dotted line. Before making that final decision, I've test driven 7 cars that were on my list and short listed Jetta and 408.

You are probably thinking how could VW & Pugs being much cheaper have better steering systems than the Bimer. Just to read writeups and comment is easy. Real value is when one can match what is written to real experience. A very important factor in my statement is, not only having researched the technical aspects of the cars on my list,but also experience of having owned models form the brands.

My former car was E39. The E90 in the family has been upgraded to F30. E39 and E90 are old technology.The steering systems were good during it's time,but better ones have come about now. You can read BMW forums and you'll see many unhappy about the F30's steering feel and feedback. I know exactly what they mean, as I have one in the house to have hands on experience.

Whilst I'm very sure, again this is only IMHO. Please feel free to make your own choice!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Aug 9 2015, 05:30 PM

Yeah that is because the F30 is an electric steering! LOL.

Still again your earlier statement shouts of generalisation. So far my experience is that I have driven the following cars on the track, VW Golf, Scirocco, Polo, Jetta, Megane RS, E90, F30, E60, Pug 308 and others. In my opinion, for the best feel on the track in terms of knowing your tyres and traction, the hydraulic steering wins hands down.

On a winding track such as Ulu Yam and Kuala Kelawang, again, nothing beats the hydraulic steering for feel and feedback. That is of course my opinion. Also why manufacturers now have to make the electric steering feel heavier especially when you put the car into "sport" mode.

For daily driving and town driving, the electric steering win hands down because of pure comfort. The damn hydraulic steering feels every single crap on the road, potholes and stones altogether LOL.

To be correct, it's hydro-electric. You are right, get what feels right for you.

as a pug owner myself, I must say your statement is not true. peugeot steering is typical of electric power steering , it is totally numb with absolutely no feedback from the road when cornering aggresively.

worse still is its bump steer, when u go across a bump in the middle of the corner the steering will kick back in your hands.

not just me, but in general all road testers and journalists agree that the older hydraulic steerings will always give better feedback and road feel compare to the modern generation of electric systems.

This post has been edited by sootienann: Aug 10 2015, 10:11 AM

Wah...Skyjack the Peugeot 408 man is back. Long time no see.

I think people are either getting confused or don't really know what is 'steering feedback'. Most ppl cannot differentiate between 'steering feedback' and 'comfort steering'.

the bmw(s) that you drove, did they have variable ratio steering , or variable assist steering ? I hope u know what these terms mean.

Have to agree with you,that is certainly the case. These days I've decided to let ppl be happy with what they say. Gets you nowhere trying to prove a point.

On another note. I see your interest in the F30. Are you getting one? Phenomenal power for a 2liter engine. I may go for used F10 diesel in a years time. Can't afford a new one!