hi am new here =D

I bought a bag of eukanuba puppy small breed as it was recommended by the petshop. After reading up on it, only realise that it is very 'meh'.

Should I buy another better brand and mix it or switch later only when the eukanuba bag is finishing ? Just open the bag.. like very wasted to throw =(

>> mayomayo

I actually felt quite pressured into buying.. I told the sales guy I heard eukanuba not good.. but he said this is good blah blah blah, puppy shud eat this, its complete and affordable.. Kena CONered lol (my prev doggies all don't eat kibbles, they take real meat & rice, so kira kibble noob)

dunno consider lucky its only 7.5kg pack and not the 15kg one =/

I'm planning to switch over to Avoderm and/or Artemis in future so I guess I'll go ahead and get a pack to mix.

Yah, just welcomed my MS home last week, though he not so puppy anymore at 7 months+ XD;;

This post has been edited by rhika: Nov 23 2011, 11:06 PM

ooh really ? I was considering ANF too earlier but the analysis not as nice as Avo or Art, so..
Let me go read up on Addiction.. why is it not good long-term ah ? =D

I really wonder why the guy super pushing eukanuba.. I asked about Blackwood and Taste of the Wild also say tak payah ? Cos isn't TotW and BW more exp

Alpha Lamb, Chicken and Rabbit sounds interesting =O Which petshop in KD can you get it from ?

I also called a few places to ask about Artemis, one shop in PJ told me Artemis supplier no longer brings in Artemis liao =(

I went and bought a bag of 13.6kg Avoderm Chicken & Brown rice to mix with the eukanuba puppy.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to store the kibbles so they stay dry, fresh and clean ? The eukanuba bag got ziplock, but Avoderm got nothing.. dare not open til I find a proper storage..

My boy who is on Eukanuba puppy small breed poos a lot and usually quite stiff. He takes a while to do his business too =(

Can't wait to switch him over to AD as soon as I can find a proper container or way to store the kibble.

Yeah, I notice he poo more compare to when he was on NutriSource. Sometimes it feels like he poo almost the same amount that he eat =(
Now in midst of gradually switching him from Eukanuba to Avoderm =D hope it will help with the poo smell and quantity.

What type of dog food are you feeding him ? As far as I know they cannot take cow milk as they are lactose intolerant. If you want to give milk, you can try goat's milk. If not, you can soak the kibble in warm water to mush it.

You can consider going for puppy type dog food, try to look for those that has Chicken Meal or Lamb Meal or a named meat meal as first ingredient and the less amount of grain the better.

This post has been edited by rhika: Dec 12 2011, 10:34 AM

You can browse http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/ to check ^^
Good brand also depend on your budget and location (if can find them), please get the best that you can.
Just pls don't go for brands like Pedigree / Alpo / Eukanuba ya. Read the ingredient list carefully and eliminate brands that states stuff like "by-products" or too much grain / corn.

If you not sure what brand he will like, some shops got sample packs that you can let your puppy try, or get a smaller bag and let him/her try first ~

This post has been edited by rhika: Dec 13 2011, 12:59 PM

I also don't mind if you feed me like that =P Lucky beagle =3



Not sure if I saw those brands when I was there last week but you can call their Customer Service line to check for you :-
1300 22 2273

Fione >>
You may also want to consider switching to lower protein % type kibble.

You can read this :-
http://www.doglogic.com/food&feed.htm

Does your girl scratch her ears or just paws etc? Check if the ears got smell or not and if reddish.

@ fione
If keep scratching may be a few reasons.
1) food not ngam so got itchy / skin problems
2) could be fungus or ear mites etc, good to take to vet for checkup. If not sakit then must be food
3) Check body got ants or anything hiding in fur or not.. sometimes those ants crawl up when they sleeping etc.
4) who knows, maybe bored or don't like / not used to wearing collar

For food, you can also try to get food samples or buy the smallest pack like 1.5kg to try on your girl, sometimes they can be choosy.

Or you can try go for BARF which is raw food, just google, can find a lot lot lot of pages to read. Better to feed this after your girl got all her vaccinations and deworm though.

Don't worry so much =3 If you read my earlier posts, I started with eukanuba *coughcough* Now I switched my boy to Avoderm Chicken :- http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-rev...l-dog-food-dry/
I like most of the ingredients on it even though its quite low on meat content. So to supplment, I feed my boy with BARF on weekends so he can get a balanced diet and also not so boring everytime eat kibble only. But please note, don't mix feeding barf/other food with kibble as the rate of digestion is different.

@ kayvan
you live near the pet lovers bangsar ? Is it the one same row as post office ?

Also how do you feed carrot ? Usually I blend it to smaller bits, but wondering if I can give my boy baby carrot or small carrot as a treat and chew toy =P

This post has been edited by rhika: Dec 29 2011, 11:00 AM

hedgie >>
Have you always fed your boy with fish based kibble ? Maybe he don't like fish or allergic to fish/potato ? Maybe consider alternative like duck / venison / lamb / kangaroo.

For fishy kibble, Origen 6 fish would be better in terms of fish content is higher than Addiction. Addiction only has Salmon Meal as its only significant fish content and Smoked Salmon on 3rd place. Orijen has fishies listed 8 times, with varying degrees of inclusion.

But do note the protein percentage of Orijen is ~38% vs Addiction's ~24%. Too high protein also not good esp for small breeds.

Other pretty good ones are :-
Petcurean Go Natural Wild Salmon http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_re...duct=2296&cat=3

Naturapet California Natural Lamb Meal & Rice http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_re...oduct=437&cat=4


kayvan >>
The BARF on weekends is me XD;;
I also read that cooked bones not so good for furkids so I give my boy raw.
I just remembered got PetLovers at the carpark there, so odd location haha !

This post has been edited by rhika: Jan 2 2012, 08:49 AM

fione >>
I use eucalyptus oil mix with water and spray everywhere, including some on the back of the neck of my boy. He don't have fleas etc, and I don't want him to start, plus I love the smell of eucalyptus.
Some of the pharmacies carry few brands, usually their box is green.

Nutram looks alright in the anaylsis =)

kayvan >>
you can freeze the raw bones first before giving to your beagle, so the blood will not create a halloween canvas =D

This post has been edited by rhika: Jan 4 2012, 10:06 AM

fione >>
Where are you located ? I spotted 3-4 brands at the Caring pharmacy in PJs =) Couple of Watson and Guardian don't have stock though.

kayvan >>
vegan beagle XD! my boy loves apples, carrots and avocado ~

Let me know how much for Pacifica biggest size ya =D I also keeping eye out for fishy kibble.
Is his itch is food related or something else?



Oooh, so far away. Anyway tea tree oil also good, just the smell diff ^^

Thanks ! Have to compare with other pet shops see how =3

True, though I'm concerned about the high protein in Orijen.. don't want my boy to be super active, then I pengsan oredi.

Judging from the first listed meat ingredients in Brit Care and NB, both the salmon are not listed as dehydrated or meal form, therefore the main ingredient in these two are likely to be the 2nd listed ingredient which is Potato Meal and Sweet Potato (again not listed as meal). For the same price, better to get some other brand with a fish type meal listed as the first ingredient.

What kibble do you feed her besides Olive oil and salmon oil ? If you keep feeding salmon oil, also do keep track of whether any of them got Vit E. Too much fish oil dimishes Vit E, so got to keep a good balance.

Agree =)

Fione, stick to Nutram for a month plus first unless you notice she scratch and poo is bad. Frequent change to diet also not good, especially in young puppy or senior dogs as their system won't be able to adapt easily.

Another option is try searching for a list of petshops / vets in Miri and call them up to see if they got other brands, types, size and price then only go make trip to buy =D

Adrian, what is the size of the treats and where to get / price ? I'm using Avoderm Baked treats for my boy now and he enjoys them, but they are huge (about 6.5 X 2.5 cm) and hard to divide =/ Smells super nice though..

Adrian, no picture of Snoopy with his wobblers ? =P I was thinking of getting it also, but I got my boy a Kong Classic first, in case he don't like. I should pick one up next time I go shopping.


Come lets dissect this kibble's ingredients, anyone? =D



positive
- lamb meal and herring meal as first two listed ingredients
- brown rice

negative
- dried potato products : byproduct
- brewer's rice : byproduct
- dried beet pulp : filler
- tomato pomace : filler
- powdered cellulose : filler

anything else?

Yeah, I'd love to get it but cannot find any shop that has it =/
Also looking for Artemis, the importer no longer bring it in =(


For Oven-baked there are a few places that has it.

1) Pet shop near Leisure Mall, Cheras, don't remember the name but they have a Peke running around the shop, 3rd or 4th shop from corner lot, that whole row got 3-4 pet shops same block one
2) Nilufar, Scott Garden, Old Klang Road
3) Pet Safari, IPC/Ikano (If I recall correctly)


For Kong, I've seen pink and green ones at random places, usually for puppy. Kong Wobbler spotted in Dec 2011 at Pyramid Pet Lovers Centre and one more place I cannot recall.

This post has been edited by rhika: Jan 12 2012, 09:34 AM

There's a seller on LYN PetStore that carries Annamaet Grain Free range...
Still looking out for Annamaet Option.

What type of puppy you have and how much you feed per meal ? 15kg packet can take up to 4-5 months to finish so make sure you store properly / keep half in freezer.

Also, make sure he got all the shots etc before bringing him to the training ^^ Which location training are you going to ?


Pets Wonderland Mid Valley has a range of Kong stuff in, including Kong Classic in various sizes, Kong bones, balls and Tuff Flyer which I wanted, but it is too big for my boy ;_; No Wobbler though

how often you feed him a day and how active is he ? do you feed treats as well?
Less active doggy don't need so high protein.



usually should feed by weight and age. And also feed slightly lesser about 5-15% of what the feeding instructions say on the bag depending on your dog's energy level. I feed my boy a bit more than his usual portion if we went out that day for long walk or training etc

This post has been edited by rhika: Jan 14 2012, 06:15 PM