Hi all,

I just gotten a toy poodle puppy about 3 weeks ago and i'm new to this. I am currently feeding him Eukanuba puppy small breed as recommended by the pet shop (yes, i know it's rubbish by just browsing through first 2 pages. LoL) and i am planning to switch him slowly to a healthier food.

I am then looking at Orijen Puppy since it earns the highest 6 star rating on dogfoodanalysis and quite a few of you were giving the orijen brand a positive go. However there's this line in the review that catches my eyes :
"The only caution we would make on this food is that the high protein content may make it suitable for adult dogs only, particularly in the case of large breeds."

Now, i would like to keep him as small size as possible without sacrificing his health and punching a hole through my wallet. Is there any suggestion to this? Also, i believe as in most of the cases, not all great products are available in mass malaysian market.

Lastly, i talked to a vet last week and he said to me "i could recommend you the most praised or most expensive food in the world but in the end your dog might not take it as well as you think since all dogs responded differently"
And i think this is quite true as well?

This post has been edited by fx_53_xt: Feb 21 2011, 12:57 PM

Thanks.
Now i have these few in mind for his next pack of food:

(Brand)(Price)(star rating, protein%,fat%,carb%)(no. of meat in first 5 ingredient)

Artemis fresh mix small breed RM42 (4star, 28%, 17%, 48%) (4)
Acana puppy small breed RM56 (5star, 37%, 19%, 36%)(2)
Avoderm puppy RM39 (4star, 29%, 11%, 52%) (1)
Orijen Puppy RM65 (5star, 42%, 18%, 32%) (5)
Now Puppy RM87 (4star, 28%, 18%, 45%)(1)


My poodle is kept at home all the time, exercising about an hour everyday at which some of you expert recommends about 25% protein food for such habits.

Now I noticed that website such as dogfoodanalysis/dogfoodanalyzer ranking system works according to their meat/grain ratio. And at such, all highly ranked food comes with >40% protein.

Therefore they were all deemed not the best for my 3 months old poodle? Any thoughts?

Also, what's the specialty for those which marked as formulated for "small breed puppy" compared to normal ones? marketing gimmick or there truly is special nutrients need for the small breeds?

This post has been edited by fx_53_xt: Feb 21 2011, 01:40 PM

thanks.
I think i most likely will go for artemis or acana. let's see how my puppy takes it.

Running out of kibble and went shopping but to my horror, Artermis sold out in every single store in PJ i went for the past week. Finally i am ran out and out of no choice, i fed him on his old eukanuba while gotten a pack of Orijen.

Now his stool is so soft it looks like his stomach couldn't take the sudden shift of food. Gonna start him on orijen today.

Its been real hard to find Artemis supplies lately and last week, a pet shop in kuchai lama confess that Artemis will no longer be brought into Malaysia! Now i'm having headache.

According to the shop owner, Artemis principal company always supplies those going to expired stock to Malaysian. And hence the supplier stop carrying them.

i've tried orijen but the problem with orijen is the kibble is too big in size and my pup wouldn't able to bite it well and i think he hates it.
I've accidentally had some of the orijen fell on floor, he just go around, smell it and left. He wouldn't even run and fights to eat it as he would with other kibble.

here's a reply from Artemis. It seems they are really gone.

Hello xxxx,

First of all, we would like to thank you for your loyalty in Artemis pet foods, and we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
Although, we haven’t seen or heard any official notification from our Malaysian distributor, it would be safe to say that they will no longer represent Artemis Pet Foods in Malaysia. We are looking to select a new business partner, and hopefully we will be able to supply our highest quality pet foods to Malaysian customers once again soon. Please check back with us again.
Thank you.

Sincerely,

Alex Kim
Executive VP
Artemis Pet Foods

since my favourite Artemis is no longer available anywhere, i have been looking up and down for new kibble. Orijen and Acana is out of question as their kibble size is huge and my puppy doesn't like it.

Now i settled down for this Canine Caviar Holistic Chicken and Pearl Millet: http://www.caninecaviar.com/Chicken%20And%...et%20Puppy.aspx

Ingredients:
Dehydrated Chicken, Ground Pearl Millet, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Chicken, White Fish, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Sun-Cured Alfalfa, Beet Pulp Shreds, Skim Milk, Sun-Cured Kelp, Potassium Sulfate, Canola Oil, Dried Chicory Root, Papaya, Whole Clove Garlic, Lecithin, Peppermint, Parsley, Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Rose Hips, Rosemary Extract, Sodium Chloride Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Zinc Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (a source of vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Thiamine, Methionine, Biotin, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite, Beta Carotene.

Guaranteed Analysis

Crude Protein 31.0 % min.
Omega 6 4.50 % min.
Crude Fat 19.0 % min.
Omega 3 1.84 % min.
Crude Fiber 3.5 % max.
Beta- Carotene 0.01 % min.
Moisture 8.0 % max.
Lecithin 0.20 % min.
Calcium 1.3 % min.
Taurine 0.10 % min.
Phosphorus 1.1 % min.
Digestibility 91 % - 93 %


Any comments?