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byaku-chan
post Aug 9 2010, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(jeins @ Aug 7 2010, 03:28 AM)
I manage to get this from Uptown pet centre PJ.
Actually I've try putting him on TOTW for a few days after I bought a small pack. My GSD loves it. He will eat immediately after i gave him and he will finish most of the kibble
(normally he will hang around, walking around before eating it when he feels like it. And, he will not finished all the food de... he will eat once a day, I'll pour him food around 7pm, while he will only eat once and when he finishes, he will not touch the remaining kibble again untill the next evening. So normally, i gave him 2 cups (if he finishes yesterday's meal) then let him finish how much he wants, then i will keep the remains after he ate then top up again tomorrow night)

His stool was ok, hard and not much. and not that smelly as orijen. hope this help. :-)

Another concern about TOTW which I thought is its kibble is for all life stage, which means from puppy to senior can consume the same pack. Isn't there any imbalance in terms of nutrition for puppy, adult and senior? Most kibble out in the market separates its product to cater different needs, ie; puppy needs more protein while senior need less protein and fat...etc. Will this affect his nutritional needs for long term?

Anyone has tried Nova Natural Trainer kibbles?
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Thanks for your feedback! smile.gif Good sign that your boy who's a picky eater likes the kibbles. Which type did you give him? Just bought a bag of the Roasted Wild Fowl variety for my adult dogs since they're used to turkey/chicken ingredients from their current kibbles. Will feedback on results.

As for nutritional needs, for me it's more important to assess in terms of the dog's individual activity level/health concerns etc. rather than generalising by life stages. For example here's my thought process when choosing food for my dogs: I read the nutritional analysis and assess the quality of the ingredients. Then I think about my dogs' lifestyles, health issues/concerns for a particular dog etc. I'd rather keep my year-old lab on Orijen Puppy because it has glucosamine and chondroitin considering hip dysplasia is a common concern for dogs of his size. TotW doesn't have those supplements in its food, and I'm not too worried about the high protein in Orijen since my lab is an active dog. There's a roughly 10% (crude) protein difference between Orijen and TotW and I'm not too worried about what this means for my adult mutt as he and the lab get raw food for evening meals often which will balance things out for him. He's active, but not as rambunctious as my lab so the slightly lower protein should work fine for him in theory. Then I have to think about my old spitz foster with kidney issues - her ideal diet would be a moderate protein one with high quality protein sources (bad/indigestible protein sources will just stress her kidneys after all) and preferably no grain as she doesn't need the extra carbs/potential allergens with her low activity level/tendency to shed.

In your boy's case I guess the important thing to consider would be activity level and his size (GSDs especially locally bred ones are especially prone to HD right?). If he really likes TotW and you're concerned about nutritional needs you can always supplement his diet with whatever you think is lacking (with advice from a trusted vet or good GSD breeder).


QUOTE(mecharojak @ Aug 7 2010, 11:46 AM)
What are the prices for TOTW going for?
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These are the RRPs according to an ad in PETSTER mag:

Pacific Stream Canine Formula with Smoked Salmon: 2.27kg RM60 / 6.81kg RM151 / 13.63kg RM248

Wetlands Canine Formula with Roasted Wild Fowl: 2.27kg RM50 / 6.81kg RM128 / 13.63kg RM225

They're also having a promo while stocks last where you get free 500g / 1kg / 1.5kg depending on which size you buy. Depending on which retailer you buy from you can get 5-10% off the RRP too.

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post Aug 11 2010, 11:36 AM

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Hi all,

Previously feeding my puppy with Nutriedge Puppy mix with Now! Duck formula his stool is firm and hard. And now I change his fod to Now! Puppy Grain free with Addiction Raw Dehydrated food (Venison Canberry Dinner) and his stool become much more softer. I do believe this is normal since I change his kibbles. But anybody here try the Addiction Dehydrated Food before? Any comment?

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post Aug 12 2010, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(byaku-chan @ Aug 6 2010, 09:20 PM)
I got TotW samples (the Pacific Stream variety) from HappieNJovie (the shop is located at Centrepoint, Bandar Utama if anyone wants to try out TotW).
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centrepoint got pet supply shop? .. wow i didnt notice it, mind telling me where the shop is located? .. inside Centrepoint building or? .. some 'landmarks' please ... thanks alot ...
wanna get some samples for my 2 lovely doggies ... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 12 2010, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(alvinz @ Aug 12 2010, 03:25 AM)
centrepoint got pet supply shop? .. wow i didnt notice it, mind telling me where the shop is located? .. inside Centrepoint building or? .. some 'landmarks' please ... thanks alot ...
wanna get some samples for my 2 lovely doggies ... biggrin.gif
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same row as 7-eleven..or maybe just a few shops next to it..cant recall
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:42 PM

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Hi All!

I am new to keeping a dog. But I want something good for my doggy. Any suggestions on which dry dog food brand to get?

She's a small breed and has long coat. I hope you guys can help me out with this. Because almost everywhere I go, I only see Eukanuba, Science Plan, Pro plan and the likes...and I read on previous posts that they are not good for doggies.

Hope to be able to get some good suggestions and advice. Thanks!
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post Sep 13 2010, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(hryeunice @ Sep 7 2010, 03:42 PM)
Hi All!

I am new to keeping a dog. But I want something good for my doggy. Any suggestions on which dry dog food brand to get?

She's a small breed and has long coat. I hope you guys can help me out with this. Because almost everywhere I go, I only see Eukanuba, Science Plan, Pro plan and the likes...and I read on previous posts that they are not good for doggies.

Hope to be able to get some good suggestions and advice. Thanks!
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i'mm feeding both of my pom with brand as below with no major issue in a cyclic manner once they finish their current brand .. laugh.gif

Orijen - Puppy.
Acana - Puppy small breed, adult small breed and Grassland
Addiction - Venison ,Pork and Lamb
natural balance : ultra
i also feed them with boiled lamb, chicken and pork meat mixed with vege but not really recommended la as it might cause your pup to lose it's appetite on kibbles lol.

btw how old is she ? if age around 3-5 month, you may try acana small breed puppy as the kibbles were small enuff for her to munch tongue.gif
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post Sep 13 2010, 01:42 PM

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Difficult question, but does anyone know the supplier for TOTW? I'm looking for a new grain free offering for my customers (people over here find Now! a little pricy).

Also been lagging behind with posting due to preparing for my puppies' arrival so didn't get a chance to say thank you thank you thank you !! byaku-chan for posting up the stuff on Guaranteed analysis <3. Especially about where the protein comes from, been trying to find this info for quite a while. You are my hero biggrin.gif

p.s- will probably thank you even more once i get through reading 'The Dog Food Project' site.

This post has been edited by Divas: Sep 13 2010, 01:49 PM
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post Sep 13 2010, 02:21 PM

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You're welcome Divas, good luck with the imminent litter! Puppies are so cute, aaah :love:

The TotW ad in Petster Mag lists the distributor info as:

Gillchal Sdn. Bhd.
Tel: 03-61572297
7, Jalan U9/8, Taman Sri Buluh, 47000 Sungai Buloh, Selangor.


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post Sep 25 2010, 08:56 PM

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is the canidae all life stage 15kg price priced at rm230 worth a buy?

price is on the high side

i tried artemis previously but the poo very smelly and ant like to eat the kibbles

she loves eagle pro but heard its not good as a lot of corn


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post Sep 25 2010, 11:03 PM

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Canidae in my opinion is always worth buying (huge fan of Canidae over here). Don't remember the exact price, but pretty sure it is usually more than RM230 so you are getting a good deal there from what i remember.


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post Sep 27 2010, 06:52 PM

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i heard people say artemis is the best..but my hometown dont sell that..my baby currently consume on nutri edge..and here they sell much expensive compare to kl seller..any recommandation except artemis??i want the best for my pup but it do not sell at my hometown..suck~~
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post Sep 28 2010, 01:54 PM

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saw ppl selling 25kg NutriEdge breeder pack online
but dint see at any pet shop

NutriEdge really got 25kg pack?
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:40 PM

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usually the dog food bag tells to put half cup/1 cup to feed, but what type of cup exactly are they refering to?
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(CyaNide27 @ Sep 28 2010, 10:40 PM)
usually the dog food bag tells to put half cup/1 cup to feed, but what type of cup exactly are they refering to?
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The standard 8oz measuring cup you use for baking/cooking, something like this:
http://www.restaurantsource.com/FetchImage...dth_300x300.jpg

But in my experience most feeding guides on dog food labels are a bit more than necessary (especially if you have a dog that isn't very active). Best way to find out is to feed according to guides first, then adjust if you see your dog gaining/losing more weight than is appropriate smile.gif
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post Oct 2 2010, 10:46 AM

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How about sciene plan dog food???
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QUOTE(cutegal0886 @ Oct 2 2010, 10:46 AM)
How about sciene plan dog food???
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If you read through this thread, i think you will find there has already been quite a bit said about science Plan (in fact looking back quickly, the first page has some stuff on science plan) smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 11:18 AM

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for artemis, the dogs poo very very smelly

and the kibbles attract a lot of ants

one more food i will avoid is premium edge, i had a bad experience with it... WORMS!!!!


does worms only happen on certain brands?
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post Oct 3 2010, 11:45 AM

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In my experience (from what my customers report, so from their experience, my data gathering... lol) the worm/maggot things usually only show up in decent/more natural dog foods. Which when you think about it, makes sense... the bugs go for less processed, more "real" food to lay their eggs to ensure their larvae get a good food source when they hatch rather than being left eating artificial flavor/preservative covered cardboard.
Sadly this is pretty troublesome for people who sell dog foods as it is much more likely that someone will complain about the worms if they have spent RM200 on a bag of food than if they spent >RM100.

Either way, don't panic too much, if there are only a couple of worms they don't actually do dogs harm (avoid it if you have a dog that is protein sensitive). You can usually just pick them out. However if you are still worried, a lot of suppliers are starting to replace bags where worms are found (some still won't but some will, mostly if there are a lot of worms, 1 or 2 sometimes they still won't) so you can ask the shop you bought it from to call the supplier.
Just one quick note, (it might sound strange but trust me), make sure it doesn't seem like you are blaming the shop owner for the worms, make it clear that you know they most likely came from the supplier warehouse. As shop owners it is very depressing to get blamed for something you have no control over and will make it less likely that they will call the supplier or anything (this is from personal experience, if you come into my shop and attack me, i will put up my defenses and attack back, if you explain the problem calmly then i will do everything i possibly can to sort out the problem).
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post Oct 4 2010, 10:27 AM

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Dear all,

I need help on how to make my puppy eat more, He is not eating much as I feed him 4 spoon of kibbles a day and he can't even finish half of the food by himself. I need to hand feed and force him to eat at night. He is a 5 month old puppy and I believe he is healhty as he is running, jumping up and down every time I am there. I am feeding him Now puppy food with a mixture of Addiction Raw dehydration Summer Brushtail food. Should I change kibbles or any one of you here can advise on the issue.

Please help as I am not sure what is wrong with the puppy or the food.

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post Oct 4 2010, 03:55 PM

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Good afternoon everyone,

I have been a keen follower of this thread, reading more about dog food, where i hope i can feed my puppy good quality food.

I have a toy poodle, his name is Teddy and he is currently 4 months old. When i got Teddy, the breeder gave me a portion of kibbles he used to feed Teddy. I fed Teddy with the kibbles for 2 weeks before i switched his kibbles to another brand. Teddy's stool was firm but very very stinky.

2 weeks later I was first recommended by the pet shop to feed Teddy with natural balance, it was either salmon or lamb. Took some sample but Teddy didn't really like it. At the same time, the kibbles were too big in size.

The next brand i tried was a brand called Brit from Czech. The one i chose was Brit Care lamb and rice that was specially for puppies. The transition from his old kibbles to the new one was good, no loose stool whatsoever. His stool is less stinky and he seems to be as active as ever.

Anyone here has tried this brand of dog food? I am very happy with the brand but i see no one has brought the brand up in this thread, I was thinking of hearing some feedbacks from you guys. Thanks

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