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cameldog
post Feb 16 2012, 11:34 AM

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New member here !!

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post Feb 16 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Feb 16 2012, 11:46 AM)
Hi Tiger bro  cool2.gif
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呵呵呵。。。。
cameldog
post Feb 17 2012, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 16 2012, 06:40 PM)
Can tell ka ? But from a big animal no doubt !!

Boy or girl
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LOLOL.... I never know you can tell the species from the poo ? tongue.gif

Anyay, it's radiata... 5-6kgs, 4-5 kgs, and 2-3 kgs....

3 monster......

cheeries still unable to produce that size of poo... and my leopard hardly poo.... lol....

anyway... Samperth, you have some real gems there and how big is ur hatching radi and angko ? smile.gif
cameldog
post Feb 17 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 17 2012, 01:37 PM)
Radi largest 5 - 6 yrs old and they themselves humping now !! Angko the largest at 3 at about 7+inches ( suspect M)

Wow 5-6 kg Radi are you  breeding from them ?

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wanted to.... but they yet start sniffs around... sad.gif

How old ur radi start to sniff and hatch ? any luck for the hatching so far?

Your angko 7" ? i think i saw some of your successful hatching of angko right? dun tell me 7" is ready to breed? i have 1 about 4"....

unfortunately my female leopard passed away with 8" size... left the male at 9-10" in size i guess... quite sometime didnt measure....

let's talk more on these.. things getting excited when ppl start to open up and talk smile.gif

also any luck on the license stuff from perhilitan ?
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post Feb 18 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(ADEXXXX @ Feb 17 2012, 11:42 PM)
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bro how long you keep to reach those size??
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Well...... Quite a few years......

cameldog
post Feb 18 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 18 2012, 02:11 PM)
Depends on sp some sp faster and ok but even within it's sp some individual are faster while some slower even with all else equal !!

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Added on February 18, 2012, 2:52 pm
My angko's first hatchlings pipped 2009 so they 3 now biggest about 7 " smallest about 4 " !! Their parents as max as their breed should be !!

Radi mine Male  start sniff at about 12 " and Female drop egg about 13"

This hobby of ours not many willing to share !!

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Yeah... It's a bit sensitive for this hobby.....
U make me envy with ur hatching Angkor!!!



When can I visit u hahaha

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post Feb 18 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 18 2012, 06:40 PM)
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Parents at it for the new season 2011/2012

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My First hatch 2009 ( CH thou )
Cheers SAM
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post Feb 20 2012, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Feb 20 2012, 12:56 AM)
It's a pleasure seeing both Samperth and cameldog exchanging msg and pictures.. smile.gif
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Yup... it's kinda fun and excited when ppl start to discuss and exchange rather then keep on "taking" but not "giving back". smile.gif

So, i think the next we should dive into are food...


lotsa ppl keep on struggling "should i feed this? should i feed that?"

I ever saw an forum was asking... "can i feed hard boiled eggs to my tortoise"?

and another forumer replied.... What do you think? and how the tortoise going to find hard boiled eggs when they are in the wild? and who is going to boil for them ? it almost laugh my head off.....

anyway...yeah.. i'm bad smile.gif i used to as stupid question too.....ok...

well.....
so, guys, share what you feed ur tort? and how frequent you feed them?


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cameldog
post Feb 20 2012, 10:55 AM

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Why ?
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post Feb 20 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(a_sim @ Feb 20 2012, 11:52 AM)
Yo nice tort n husbandry...

Just wonder how you normally clean their poo poo since is grass field? Worry if not completely clean then it smell and neighbour complain.
If raining will them get cold?
Did you provide heat lamp?
Since they always contact with ground then will need to deworm more frequent?

I plan to put my tort outdoor but i have above concerns:).

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just keep them like the way you keep goat or dog!! LOL.
stop worry and start living!
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post Feb 20 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 20 2012, 12:10 PM)
Ask that guy who replied - who's gonna boil the egg for the tortoise .... 

How about this who's gonna give the tortoise money to buy mazuri or pretty pets ..... Pellets ? What it gonna do to earn pay ?

In my view diet in rough = protein for growth , fiber/roughage for filling n ease of passing of motion , calcium for bone/shell building !!

How they are provided in captivity are owner's responsibility n creativity ( most green are good ) feed in moderation nothing is bad ( unless it's known poison to both human n reptiles )
My feeding list is too long n varied a bit ( some sp more fruits or animal protein than others ... )
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Phew....
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post Feb 21 2012, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 21 2012, 07:48 AM)
Don't be afraid to try new method !! Never try never know . But some sp ( dry grassland ie leopard or sulcata ) especially new import should never be put outdoor Straightaway ( our high humid , prolong rain ..... ) will bring about RNS easily .

Need anything just ask ( no question too noob if enough research done )
below are some I heard over the years ( q I chose not to answer or comment )
- desert sp thus no need to drink water
- desert night v cold thus can stay in my aircond room
- lettuce are best food
........ Etc
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Agreed....never try never know....

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post Feb 22 2012, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 21 2012, 08:25 PM)
The only bad I can think of are
Bit extra protein and if that lizard poop has parasite worm's eggs  !!


Added on February 21, 2012, 8:30 pm

I use lamp ( wattage will depend on height ) hung right above where I intended my tort to sleep !! 30-35oC seems warm n comfy for them .

Heat pad ( exposed wire worries me a bit ) I don't use and can't find them in big enough size for some of my animals !! Lol
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Samperth... You may need heating jumbo 5ftX5ft for ur big mama.... hahah

yeah... what about infrared bulb?

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post Feb 22 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 22 2012, 11:42 AM)
All my outdoor enclosure ( fenced in dirt /grassed ground ) has a corner that's cemented , roofed ( keep rain out n to hang the light ) n this area is sloped so rain water will get drained out !!

Most if not all will choose to tuck-in there for the night !! Warm , cosy n dry .
Cheers


Added on February 22, 2012, 5:28 pm

Instead one could always use ( piggery or chicken hatchery )
- Gas powered burner
- Electric powered heating plate to warm a large area !!

Below picture of what I suggested
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But as hobbyist do we need that ? We just small scale heating a few animals at a time !!
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Yes... Those are something real serious..... The problem we always run into are temperature and humidity....


Added on February 22, 2012, 7:10 pm
QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 22 2012, 11:42 AM)
All my outdoor enclosure ( fenced in dirt /grassed ground ) has a corner that's cemented , roofed ( keep rain out n to hang the light ) n this area is sloped so rain water will get drained out !!

Most if not all will choose to tuck-in there for the night !! Warm , cosy n dry .
Cheers


Added on February 22, 2012, 5:28 pm

Instead one could always use ( piggery or chicken hatchery )
- Gas powered burner
- Electric powered heating plate to warm a large area !!

Below picture of what I suggested
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But as hobbyist do we need that ? We just small scale heating a few animals at a time !!
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Yes... Those are something real serious..... The problem we always run into are temperature and humidity....

This post has been edited by cameldog: Feb 22 2012, 07:10 PM
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post Feb 22 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 22 2012, 07:43 PM)
We in Malaysia don't have a huge range to deal with at most 15 oC ( 20 - 35 oC ) And this don't bother me as much !! Humidity is the worst on dry sp ( fresh WC or younger specimen especially ) !!

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I stopped using heat lighting long time ago.......
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post Feb 28 2012, 10:24 AM

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Samperth,

Now I have doubt.... i "suspect" the "presumed female" is male ! How do you sexing the radi ? care to share?
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post Feb 29 2012, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(cameldog @ Feb 28 2012, 11:24 AM)
Samperth,

Now I have doubt.... i "suspect" the "presumed female" is male ! How do you sexing the radi ? care to share?

Same as any other tortoise - Tail , Butt eye , Plastron , Anal scutes......... Bit of everything actually , if no tell-tale specific one !!

But most Radi has rather short tail (thus sexed female when young ) till mature - if not why ppl say they can only safely sexed Radi after 9-10 inches or larger !!

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erm.... let me check again later when i get home....... sad.gif well.... hopefully it's female...... else i dun know when i can breed them.... smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Feb 29 2012, 05:52 PM)
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I feed mine , just did this evening !! ( infertile or early death embyro Turkey and Kampung chicken egg )
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Ok. i'll feed mine with hard boil egg too ! i swear ! smile.gif I think that will be another way to obtain protein... i read some research doc and saying they do eat "meat" in the wild sometime to gain protein... and you hit me! i feed mazuri sometime too! haha smile.gif

Oh yeah, I just took some photos of my radi....

I think this is female.....
(not too active, most of the time she will stay on certain area and rest for a few hours....)

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and this is male...
(this fella is a monster.... he eat anything that he can see! dog poo too!)
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Samperth, what you say on my tortoise sexing guess?

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post Mar 1 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Mar 1 2012, 11:22 AM)
If diner big enough leave it shell on ( crack the shell a bit ) if not shell off or use quail egg !!

Egg shell = Almost 100% calcium carbonate !!

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Hey sampeth did you saw my tort pic? how do ya think about my accessement about the sexing? pls enlighten me abit smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Mar 1 2012, 01:32 PM)
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The highlighted red oval part of the anal scute " slighted raised " outside and thick thru into the inside ??

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Erm.. I'm not too sure what you meant by [ " slighted raised " outside and thick thru into the inside ??]...
are you saying the anal scute that you circled is thick thru inside the platron ?

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