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Mr.Docter
post Feb 15 2011, 07:23 PM

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hi everyone,

i did brought one tortoise a months ago from overseas. i never thought i will pet one of these kind of animal, but suddenly fall in love on the first sight - thanks to their cuteness wub.gif

to be honest, i don't have any knowledge in this field. i don't even know what species mine is, how old is his age and other information about him. for a start, may i know what kind of species mine is originated? i will continue to learn about them based on that. thanks in advance! laugh.gif


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post Feb 20 2011, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(iminuru @ Feb 16 2011, 02:22 AM)
Nice cute tortoise, looks like a marginated tortoise...it's just my wild guess..
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oh maii you are good! it is indeed! now i can start my study about my Kuma-Kuma ( i kinda like that name laugh.gif )

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definitely looks like mine, but mine is slightly.... fatter?

QUOTE(akuning @ Feb 16 2011, 10:17 AM)
it looks like a herman tortoise if not wrong.... drool.gif
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i googled Hermann species as well, but the dorsal appearance is not the same. it pretty much look alike tho sweat.gif

QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Feb 18 2011, 10:28 AM)
Mr Docter>> Does it open its mouth when you try to touch his nose or something? Btw how do you know it's a "he"? Shopkeeper told you...? Any traits to "read" their gender?

I have 1 terrapin currently XD Got it as my bday gift 15 years ago! So yup, she's 15 years old now...! I used to have 2, 1 male and 1 female but after about 8 years, the male 'ran away' from home. It's 'coz we usually let our terrapins go out and in of their "pool" freely (it's pretty low, they can climb out & back in on their own; especially in the morning where they know it's feeding time they'll go back inside the water). When they climb out of their water, they usually explore the house - living room, kitchen, even the bathroom - all the rooms/ places that's practically downstairs. Unfortunately back then our gate has a big hole and they were smaller. One day the male just escaped from the front gate and we didn't realize until we couldn't find him after ransacking the whole house (both of them have their own favourite 'hideout' where we can usually find them). He was gone and we learnt our lesson. My mum even walked throughout the neighbourhood but there's no trace of him. Hopefully a kind neighbour found him and take good care of him  sad.gif

I feed my terrapins the Nutrafin Basic terrapin pellets. Both liked it and my female terrapin had been taking the same pellet for 15 years. I used to change brand once (because they ran out of Nutrafin in the shop and I was running low on the food supply) and they don't seem to like it. Yes, they still eat but little. So when it finished, I went back to Nutrafin.

I used to feed them (fresh from market) raw prawns and boy, don't they love it. Unfortunately it's really smelly (the water and their poo); and for few days they refused to eat the pellets when I feed them (waiting for the prawns) so in the end my mum said we shouldn't give them the prawns anymore. Besides, there's more nutrients in the pellets. Sometimes we give them kangkung leaves. I give them banana and apple bits as treats (they enjoy it) but pretty rare. They poo get watery and lembik with the banana.
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mine is "she" i guess, based on the picture provided by the Wikipedia
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no sir, my Kuma-Kuma is kinda shy (or scared? i believe its normal) when she see a finger that pointed to her head, to touch her head. she will immediately withdraw her head into her shell, but eventually the head will pop up again when she know its not a threat. how about yours? i am really excited reading your story. oh God i hope my pet will stay alive as long as yours too! laugh.gif

i don't keep my tortoise in the case too. i prefer her to walk freely around my bedroom (its lucky since this kind of animal don't have any strong smell sweat.gif ). after few days, i will identify her favorite spot and start putting her food at that place.

regarding her diet, i don't start feeding with pallet or any artificial food yet since i don't know where to start. i just give him vegetables and she loves cabbage. really loves it compared to the rest. because i don't know how this animal drink, i just dip their vege into the water and hope that the water is sufficient for their need.. smile.gif

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post Feb 20 2011, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(iminuru @ Feb 20 2011, 07:21 PM)
Lucky guess, your tortoise should be a male marginated tortoise. you need to soak it once in 2days for 15minutes with warm water but not hot ( for it to drink and defecate )and make sure you dry it with a clean towel.
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could you please define soak in more detail please? completely immerse the tortoise into the water? or only till what level?
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post Mar 4 2012, 05:40 PM

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Anyone here have a link for tortoise pallets?

Mine gonna finish soon smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(cameldog @ Mar 4 2012, 06:06 PM)
What kind of pellets u r talking about? I have some Mazuri, let me know if u r looking for it.
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Yes that would be perfect. Please PM me.
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post Mar 5 2012, 01:37 PM

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Thank you Dagashi for your service smile.gif

Meanwhile, may I know if tortoise able to breed with the almost same species?
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post Jul 24 2012, 08:14 AM

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Hello,

May I know what is the mean of basking in tortoise-context?

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jul 24 2012, 08:38 AM)
Sun bathing !!

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Ahhh its make sense now. Thanks! We can replace the sun bathing with artificial UV light right? So how do we know which type of light suitable with our species? Or it mostly the same?



p/s : Just have chance to really taking care of my pet now sweat.gif
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post Aug 5 2012, 06:04 AM

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So silent this thread nowadays...... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Aug 22 2012, 06:02 AM)
Btw that's a male in breeding mode - the red not as red when off season !!

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Wow you are very good with this tortoise stuff ya! rclxms.gif

Anyway I just create a place for my tortoise. Will upload to receive comments from fellow owner here.


p/s: new thread?
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post Jan 9 2013, 09:29 PM

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Hello,

I am currently own Egyptian Tortoise (Kleinmann's tortoise). May I know if its okay if I put my beloved little Egyptian together in the same box with my new sulcata?
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post Jan 10 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jan 10 2013, 05:57 AM)
Depending on many factors ?
- health of new box-mate
- size differences
- size of box

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Hello sifu,

-New box-mate is newly born and healty (eating like a baby, all the time)
-My little Egyptian is about 8-9 centimeter from tail to head approximately.
-Box is around 85x50 centimeter. But my current tortoise don't like being in the box, he will be scraping the sand to ask people to put him in the living room. Quite friendly, know to approach my mom foot if he is feeling hungry sweat.gif

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post Jan 10 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Dagashi @ Jan 10 2013, 11:19 AM)
That's a rare Tortoise you have there. biggrin.gif would love to see how he looks like.
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During my first day buying him. Its already about nearly 3 years ago. Slow grower, which is good since for me happy.gif

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post Jan 11 2013, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(Dagashi @ Jan 10 2013, 02:45 PM)
I think you would also need to check if he is wild caught or captive bred. Depends on the illnesses and bacteria that they have as well. What I understand is generally need about 6 months quarantine period before introducing new additions. and that is also under controlled environments. U don't want a case of bullying! But if your sulcata is a hatchling (under 1 year). He'll generally be about the size of 4-6cm (plastron) which is definately much smaller than your egpytian. you may rethink about putting them together for the time being until your hatchling becomes similar in size (for the sulcata it won't take long prob 6 months on a good diet. Before you know it.. the sulcata will be a giant!

Btw your egyptian looks great and the best measurements would be  on the plastron for greater accuracy.
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Its a captive bred. Thank you very much for your tips.

Anyway, my Egyptian really LOVE eating your pellet. But I kinda dip the pellet into a water to make it slightly soft to consume. Sometimes mix with any other vegetable eventhough he kinda dislike it sweat.gif

QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jan 10 2013, 06:08 PM)
LTC = Long Term Captive if healthy and eating well I don't see any harm putting them together ( at most 12-18 mths assume Sulcata is really a hatchling ) BUT theres a few BUTS 

- If the Egyptian is a Male ( at 8-9 cm he is mature to breed already) chasing a baby to try to mount will stress the baby to death  !!

-  The diet or food item may be a bit different for now ( chopped up a bit for baby Vs whole stalk of leaves for adult )

As Dagashi mention Sulcata do grow big and fast thus I mention 12-18 mths together !!
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Thank you very much for the tips, too! I really could learn a lot from you guys notworthy.gif

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post Jan 11 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Dagashi @ Jan 11 2013, 11:49 AM)
thanks for your review!I also soak the pellets first before feeding it to my torts. easier for them to eat. But can't be too wet or else they will be too soft and mushy (then it becomes messy and difficult to clean).

I also found that if we put veges together with mazuri, our torts will just ignore the veges.  sweat.gif  and eat the mazuri. So we make sure that we don't mix it so we don't waste food.

I suspect my baby sulcata (approx 5cm-6cm) can eat 3 pellets by himself for the whole day!! and contrary to normal babies, he can happily munch away on full stalks of veges which we found amusing cause those were meant for our older stars. I find that sulcatas are ferocious eaters  shocking.gif  Always always always eating! and growing too! My stars are more tame and boring. Always hiding in their hut.

I also notice that each tort is so different in behaviour. my sulcata will sleep with his body slightly upright against a wall whereas my stars will just laze around happily in the shaded area.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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So fast growing, your tortoise.

Unlike others, Egyptian is a kind of species that slowly grows. With the average lifespan of 40-50 years old, it would be a perfect life companion for me laugh.gif

The main problem is that to find another female Egyptian to pair with mine. I hate seeing him living a foreveralone life sad.gif
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post Jan 11 2013, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Jan 11 2013, 12:00 PM)
Is this ur type of Egyptian?

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Must be cute. I'd really like to see it very much  nod.gif
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Same species, yes but the picture is not mine if that what you're asking.

Cute? I could say so, but I notice he don't really afraid neither human or my cats. I sometime makes me worry if he is too brave for his own good, since Egyptian Tortoise live in different environment (originally) and making other pathogen that our body or other local special don't have problem with; will be a problem for him.
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(kyox88 @ Jan 20 2013, 10:03 PM)
sometime one week, sometime 2 months ..automatic feeders?
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My family just simply bring them together during vacation or went back to kampung laugh.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:25 PM

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Found a recent picture while rearranging my HDD.

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I will change the sand to proper turtle bay in a week time, see if it will comfort him more happy.gif



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