Anyone know if someone already successfully applied for Permit to Keep Star Tortoise? I mean for private keepers who bought online.

Based on INTESA, Cuora Amboinensis is in AppendixII also!!
Means I have to apply permit also...??!! Sad lar..tmrw gonna call to double check.
Looking at the list , it covers a lot of the exotic turtles species sold during last few years. Means a lot of people will be affected.

So, the grace period given may be safe to apply??
Perhilitan could not confirm to me that applicants will be safe..there goes my confidence.

How?

Mass media.....that's a very good idea.

If can get The Star newspaper to write an article...any sifu here would like to contribute info and talk about the predicament of MY's thousands of pet lovers with the reporter or writer?
But this may compromise the sifu's "safety", if u know what I mean.
Since June 28 is approaching, is makes sense for The Star to write an article covering the impending Wildlife Law....
I am sure many people would be happy if applicants' "safety" can be confirmed publicly by some higher authority.

Just thinking...if many people write in to The Star to write an article on this topic ..would it succeed?
Approach MPs?? ...would they even help?

Who is working in the newpapers companies?


This post has been edited by Ben99: May 18 2010, 11:19 PM

Called Perhilitan today.
Cuora Amboinensis also have to apply for permit.....sheesh.

The person on the line said to download this form SKK1 to apply 1st. ( but I cannot find the download icon...maybe need to register as user 1st..)

Next she said we apply using the Form and then they will file it.
Once Perhilitan receives a notice / letter from Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment (NRE)...they will notify the applicant to pay the fees because at the moment, the Act is still not in effect.

From what she said ( and also her boss previously ) if no notice or letter is received, the 28 June may be, just may be will be delayed.....this is really inefficient and not clear communication from the G.


Regarding releasing into the wild....not really a good idea. I have released adult Ambos into a pond behind my home....some damn anglers fished them up and sold to the pets shops.....this really pisses me off.

Others people released the RESes for religious merit.

The last count...there were almost 10 adult RES and Ambos in the pond...now is ZERO!!!

I was hoping for baby turtles to turn up.

An uncle who is a regular angler told me some kids did it. He asked them to release back into the pond and they told him...."I can sell to pet shop for $$".

So, you see, what you release, others profit from it. It sucks!!
Why can't people just leave them be?!

This post has been edited by Ben99: May 19 2010, 01:55 PM

Well, I do agree that to save thousands of RM in fines, the best and easiest way is to release into the wild.
I would do that too. Still thinking what to do with my 2 Juvi Ambos.

Personally for me, if i release my pet turtles into the wild ( ie. the pond ), I would love for them to live there, procreate and have lots of babies.
Call me crazy, but since childhood, I have always had this fascination with creating a colony of turtles or fishes in a pond/area....if anyone spoils my plan then I will be annoyed.....anyway that's just me and my crazy idea.
I also feel sorry for those Ambos kept under deplorable conditions at those pet shops near my house...many lost some scutes and badly diseased and without water.
Hope that with INTESA all these stuff will be phased out. But should not penalise the true pet lovers...Sigh.


Point 2:-
Releasing invasive species is not recommended. Bad for the ecosystem.
My personal experience, the pond used to have a self sustaining colony of gambusia (guppies), catfish and soon hock about 3 years ago.
Then someone released jaguar cichlids and flower horn into the pond.
Now, not a single guppy is left.
Even the local ghost shrimps, which I used to easily get 5 to 6 shrimps in 1 scoop, now I get 1 shrimp with 6 to 7 scoop of the net ( I am not kidding ).
After that, someone released peacock cichlids, now other than the peacock cichlids, I seldom see the anglers catch the flower horns and jaguar chilids for the last 1 year.

Daniel,
your pignose turtle is Carettochelys insculpta?
The above is Cites App.II

Sigh...so long as corrupted rectum dwelling shit heads are at the top..

Hi,

Where are you from ?

Good looking kid and nice tort there.

The local petshops, zoos and parks are managed by ill informed staff.
You can share your expertise with them?
Have tried writing a letter to the dept head to give some advise/information?
Maybe they just would not appreciate concerned citizens' help...

hi sifus,

Been away for months, got some questions, ...

common snapping turtle - App I
alligator snapping turtle - App III - need permit and must buy from legal importer

Both are CITES, App I species same treatment as App III ?

Means I need to get a photocopy of the original import permit ( from seller ) and a RM10 license from Perhilitan ? for both species above?


To fulfill my curiosity, are there any turtle farm where we can visit in malaysia?

This post has been edited by Ben99: Oct 2 2012, 09:52 AM

hi guys,

checked the CITES list, seemed that musk and mud turtles are not included, so these can be kept without permits right?
I mean just like the RES.
is this correct? anyone can confirm?
Thanks in advance.

btw samperth, if we have a permit for the torts, technically the CB babies cannot be sold by the pet owner to a direct buyer, is this the law right now?

Ok, thanks. The limitation kinda sucks eh.

Anyone, regarding the musk and mud, any feedback guys?