NO - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-eared_slider

This is Rocky trying to climb over my leg.


I let them wander around the apartment sometimes


Them soaking up some sun at the balcony


They're both females (I think) after posting some photos of their nails and tails at a RES forum.

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Added on September 12, 2010, 10:02 pmally19, how old is your RES?

This post has been edited by static: Sep 12 2010, 10:02 PM

not sure...i got them in feb.
length was about the size of a usb now its as big as my mouse (computing not rodent)
they wont stay still when i let them out.
my dad has a love hate relationship with them. sometimes he'll give them treats, sometimes he'll complain when they want attention...

how about yours? looks a bit bigger than mine.


This post has been edited by ally19: Sep 13 2010, 01:18 AM

There's a problem with my friend tortoise (2 years old, not sure about the actual species, looks similar to Sucalta, but according to my friend, thats a local species) where when it move, it only use its front legs.

Had check on the back legs, it seems to be normal as i notice that its hind legs seems like can move freely when you lift it up, the shell seems to be normal as well (but the edge looks a bit sharp, not sure whether this was the root cause).

Do anyone of you encounter this before, any idea??

This post has been edited by gangc: Sep 13 2010, 12:46 AM

Sound like metabolic bone disease to me...
What is ur friend feeding it with usually?

PS: Im not a chelonian guy but just wanted to take part in the discussion so can learn more so do correct me if im wrong

might I ask, what's the size of the enclosure?

i'm not jumping to conclusions as not all the facts are presented here (not even the species, though it should be a M. emys) but cases of locomotion using only front limbs usually occur when hatchling/juvenile tortoises are confined to small enclosures without much legspace.

Its feed with some Vegies.

It doesn't seems like M. emys, as it looks a bit brighter in terms of the shell color, and the head is in white color.

The enclosure size seems to be fine for the tortoise (90cm X 50 cm).
The tortoise seems to be fine when my friend bought it as a juvenile, only happen when it grow bigger (2 yrs+ old).

This post has been edited by gangc: Sep 13 2010, 12:28 PM

Some Vegie but mostly which type as some vegie are bad to tortoise !!

Since you say not M.emys could it be I.elongata - their shell are brighter in colour and head range from white to yellow to pink !! (localy theres only 3 type of tortoise in case you didnt know - only I.elongata has a bright shell )

I am suspecting something else - hows the poo ?

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Might as well post some picture of the actual patient - take the guessing work out on which sp it is and the even-ness of the shell tells a story !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Sep 13 2010, 01:09 PM

Just check on the image of "Indotestudo elongata", that's the tortoise that i'm talking about, thanks for the id.

Sorry for not able to upload the pic, as i don't have any camera with me now, my phone cam's resolution is suck.

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Added on September 13, 2010, 2:49 pmJust read an article about "Metabolic Bone Disease" as what suggested by Ryo.

Here's the summary >>

Metabolic Bone Disease (MBD): This is a condition that is the direct result of poor husbandry. It results from the effects of poor diet, poor or no uvb, lack of Vitamin D, and poor calcium to phosphorus ratio. Pyramiding is a form of MBD which research shows is the result of all of the above and lack of humidity and exercise. If the onset of MBD begins when a turtle is young, it will develop obvious deformities. Tortoises will show raised or stacked scutes on the carapace, overgrown, duck or parrot like beak and the nails will grow oddly curved out and upward. They will have splayed legs and have difficulty walking upright. Many are forced to drag their hind legs because of this difficulty.

Turtles often show early signs of MBD by their shells growing curved upward, some looking like a saddled shape. They will appear to be thickened. Box turtles will not have a working hinge, but rather have it frozen in place. Some will show signs of resorption where you will no longer see a tail because the body is trying to get the calcium from the bones. Often the turtle’s legs will be thin and deformed. As with tortoises the beak will also become duck or parrot shaped. Water turtles will usually show raised scutes, some actually also pyramiding as with tortoises. Their shells will also become serrated even if they are a species that normally has a rounded shell.

To avoid MBD it’s important to provide a nutritional diet with proper calcium and vitamin d, give proper uvb lighting (natural sun is best), plenty of exercise and humidity in the case of land turtles. Providing a cuttlebone in addition to good diet is a good way to let your turtle supplement itself with added calcium.

Source: http://turtlerescues.com/common_health_problems.htm

Those words highlighted in bold are the symptoms i found on my friend's tortoise.

*Sorry for posting the long article.

This post has been edited by gangc: Sep 13 2010, 02:49 PM

If you are indeed talking about elongata add more fruit and meat into its diet !!
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I am almost into F2 in this sp already (pending eggs to hatch only )

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Sep 13 2010, 03:36 PM

not ruling out bladder stone either. this one catches up much faster than mbd and can happen concurrently with the latter.

for the serration, it could be ruled out as it is normal for a 2+ years elongata (as well as older emys and impressa) to still have them.

and photos will help much. don't worry if the camera sucks, just some details will do.

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Sep 13 2010, 05:31 PM

What good does salt bath do to RES and when is it used?

i) to treat fungus in its early stages.
ii) for seasoning in RES soup

lol.. oh and why RES will float sometime and cant swim down? my previous 2 RES died this way when they were less than 2 inch... I researched and found tat is lung infection is it true?

respiratory infection, yup. could happen to any turtles, but I found that Emydidae (new world turtles) are most prone to this.

Can they eat meat, i thought Tortoise was herbivore (Sorry, i'm not the expertise when talking about Tortoise, just try to help my friend out).

Can i add the Exo-Terra's Calcium+D3 & Multi-Vitamin powder to their food?

http://redfoottortoise.com/index.htm



Above link from http://turtlerescues.com/care_sheets.htm under Care sheet , look up red footed !!

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Tropics sp get more chance to encounter carrion and bugs in the wild so feeding them similar in captive wont do much harm (I think ) !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Sep 14 2010, 01:29 PM

I got them last year, more than a year old now. Also as big as my mouse

Thanks for the info bro,

So which vege serve the best as main food for toitoise?

i just noticed the patch on the top of my RES's shell. i've kept it in low water for the moment (just below the shell to keep the top part dry). some info that i've observed.
1. im not sure if its shell rot/fungus/infection cos its dry.
2. the top pic, the bottom is like peeling/cracked.
3. when i cleaned the tank i saw small red worms (blood worms?). i use diamond water to fill the tank.
4. it started shedding its skin last week. top part of neck still has some loose skin so i let it be.
5. i use cotton bud to clean the "lines". didnt dare use brush cos i tot it would hurt.
6. how smooth is the shell suppose to be?