It's Jalan Cecawi

Thanks for the Correction...

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Added on May 3, 2010, 1:04 pmMe also from Cheras.... but cheras area, im not sure for it lo....

This post has been edited by budblely: May 3 2010, 01:04 PM

Cheras not good... no pro vet... or else my old turtles would hav still be here... all oso dog, cats and bird...

Are there such thing such as over feeding a tortoise?..

well, My IStar eat like...hungry ghost!!..

I feed him with 3 combinations...

1. Okra (70%)
2. Hibiscus flower(10%)
3. Hibiscus Leaf(20%)

he loves Okra very much...

This post has been edited by El Sol: May 3 2010, 07:17 PM

Probably pyramiding?

http://www.turtlestuff.com/pyramid.html

I dun think it's going to be pyramiding...

I quote the above facts from the website that u gave me...LOL

according to the website that u gave me, Pyramiding has nothing to do with over feeding..

Congrats on ur new torts. Glad to hear tey started to eat again. How big r tey? any pics?
As long as they poopoo healthy wat tey eat, then eat more better. Torts know how to stop eating when teyr full.
But also be careful wat tey eat. Torts need food hi in fiber, low in protein. Ur list should be other way round, ie. more hibiscus, less okra. I think okra is good, but too mushy = ciritbirit. I use it more as a laxative, to help digestion occasionally.
Careful on wat tey like to eat, doesnt mean its good for them. Lettuce n beans (longB, frenchB) torts love very much, but its like candy chocolate to us. Not good.
To share, heres wat i feed my leos n stars, ordered from most fed to least fed:
1) TimothyHay pellets
2) Sawi
3) SweetPotato leaves
4) Kangkong
5) Opuntia cactus (tis is bestest, but grows very slow)
6) Okra
7) Carrot skin, broccoli stem (not sure if tis is ok, so only give rarely) mayb other sifus can
comment?
8) Hibiscus (also best, but no supply)
My exp w baby Stars <4" is they r quite fragile. Need UVA/UVB lighting, water, calcium supp. N watch out for runny nose, no energy, always sleeping. Signs of a sick tort.
Happy feeding

Thx man...

my Istar is around 2", every morning and evening I let him sunbath...so no worries about calcium + D3, rite? hahaha...

actually, I never see him poopoo...eat a lot dun poo, 2 days dy..is that alrite? if I soak him while sun bathing, he just wee that white thingy only...no poo...

I think I'll change his diet to mostly hibiscus leaves and flowers, with some occasional okra..

here's my Istar pic...haven't got the time to buy feeding bowl...hahaha



This post has been edited by El Sol: May 4 2010, 06:08 PM

wrong

sunlight do provide uvb that is used to synthesize vitamin D3, but it's not a source of calcium

but foods (hibiscus, ocra, weeds) inside got calcium dy rite?..so sun bathing + good foods, enough?

I read somewhere...giving them Calcium supplement might be harmful...

Hello! I juz got my I~Star, and i got some question, does it need water? and can i put it in water but not covered with water?


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Sandakan near me good ! From LenU or Burong ?
Can put on water for bathing n drinking (few minutes to an hour or so max ) but not in water to live in like green turtle! used to have lots of them now "
no more"

I just got mine as well...

First of all, I think u need to look at the care sheet at the front page...;D

Star tortoise should live in dry place..not wet and damp places, so no water like turtles..

but, every morning and evening, I will soak mine with warm water (not exceed their head, or they'll drown) and sun bath them...for around 15 minute..

from what I read, baby tortoises need frequent soaking, as they dehydrate faster..decrease soaking when they are adult...

I'm not pro, just tell u my routines...

CMIIW

in the wild, herbivorous tortoises do eat animal matters and/or minerals to compensate their calcium needs (even though the plants they consumed contained higher amount of calcium and better Ca:P ratio compared to cultivated plants).

discussions on harmful calcium supplements usually revolves around the balance of Calcium:Phosphorus ratio in supplements, in which there are brands out there with even 1:0 ratio. this ratio is better than supermarket greens which have higher phosphorus count as additional P is added through fertilizer.

as for calcium OD, yup, it is possible but it is almost unheard of compared to calcium deficiency. OD shouldn't be any problem if supplements are given in moderation.

I see I see...

can u recommend me a good supplement?..how bout exo terra's calcium + D3 supplement??

here's the stuff..

http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products/powder_calcium_d3.php

Do remember there are few types of supplement on sale
-multi vitamin
-pure calcium
-calcium+vit D3
-........
As in harmful ? Which type n harmful in what ways ?

From my own little humble experience it's usually the vitamin part doing the overdosing harm !!

What I meant was the Calcium + D3 supplement..

to be honest, I dunno what is the harmful part of overdosing Calcium...I just read it somewhere that it's not good to supply additional Calcium supplement, because they already get their Calcium from their foods(Hibiscus, weeds, grass, bla bla bla)...

and for the D3, frequent sun bathing in the morning and evening is enough...(that's what I read)..

dun ask me where I read it..

I read a lot of different sources, and I forgot where I read it..LOL (too many dy.. )

yes right. as i said, calcium OD is almost unheard of.

most new keepers give out too much vitamin. the worst case is combining uvb light with D3 supplement - surefire OD.

( what humble little experience... if your experience is little, ours are miniscule )




i heard about that. sorry for the loss




haven't tested exoterra's supplement, haven't even checked them out as they are relatively new.

many keepers swear by repcal.

(note : if your turtles bask alot under sunlight, opt for supplements without D3)

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Added on May 4, 2010, 8:22 pmno worries. we all started out small

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This post has been edited by camillenoir: May 4 2010, 08:25 PM

WAHHH...D3 also can overdose???!!!....

=_="

repcal izzit? ok then...gotta look for it..;D

Near you? You in Sandakan too? Hmm... Where is this LenU or Burong? Do you mean LenYu? And Oh yeah, wheres other pet shops other than :

- Mile 8, Tmn Fortune Shoplots (Standard Aquarium)
- Mile 7, Beside Tmn Megah (Garden And Fish)
- Mile 5, Pasar Sibuga (I 4got the shop name)
- Mile 4, Tmn Indah Jaya (Sandakan Aquarium), Bandar Kim Fung, Near Bengkel (4got the name too..)
- Mile 2, Tmn Yeng Seng (Birds Petshop)
- Hsiang Garden (Len Yu)
- Bandar Ramai Ramai (Aquarium).