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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V5

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chteo
post Mar 17 2011, 05:02 PM

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most of us RES-ing and "RES"-ing here.... biggrin.gif
suprafire
post Mar 18 2011, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(lan244 @ Mar 11 2011, 01:58 PM)
can i put my tortoise inside an aquarium
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Better not, a tortoise is land-based; unlike a terrapin which is semi-aquatic... smile.gif
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post Mar 19 2011, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Mar 16 2011, 07:42 PM)
Hi bro,

Meaning i can stil declare any pets under CITES now? Or i need to wait until further announcement? 
Thanks God, i missed the previous grace period

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just declare them bro. worth the try. just make sure that animals you declared are covered under 716 - there are indeed several animals (not turtles) under wildlife department's jurisdiction that were listed under 686 but not under 716, for these species i could only say tough luck.

plus, they had stated in Selangor Times that no action would be taken against those who declared this time.

QUOTE(suprafire @ Mar 17 2011, 03:45 PM)
Hello TTT, I am a fond RES keeper. Seems like there is few people keeping RES here. I find RES the most colorful of all turtle varieties, luckily it is also the cheapest. Anybody else RES-ing here?
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considering the fact that the fines for keeping res is higher than illegal racing, well.... wink.gif

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can i put my tortoise inside an aquarium


yes, many keepers indeed do that. just make sure that overall setup (temperature, humidity, etc) fits the requirements of the species you're keeping.
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post Mar 19 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Mar 19 2011, 01:35 AM)
just declare them bro. worth the try. just make sure that animals you declared are covered under 716 - there are indeed several animals (not turtles) under wildlife department's jurisdiction that were listed under 686 but not under 716, for these species i could only say tough luck.

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What about ST? Where shall we declare for it?
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post Mar 19 2011, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Azazel @ Mar 15 2011, 04:26 PM)
Lovely "RES" you hatched there Sam LMFAO!!!

Anyway, I need to ask whether my turtles' growth rate is normal or not. I bought them when they were only a few weeks old (around 2 to 3 weeks). They arrived somewhere around end of September or early October last year. And this is their size now. Is this slow, normal or fast? Thanks!
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Thanks on my " RES" !!

Being awhile since I kept any RES so not much comment - But for a 6-7 mths old they seems a bit big , but some RES do grow faster than others even all else equal !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Mar 19 2011, 10:27 PM
suprafire
post Mar 19 2011, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Mar 19 2011, 12:35 AM)
considering the fact that the fines for keeping res is higher than illegal racing, well....  wink.gif
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Do you mean that keeping RES is illegal in Malaysia? shocking.gif
May I know what legal document i can refer to? blink.gif
Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Feb 26 2011, 07:52 AM)
those are Youngia japonica, been known to be eaten as salad smile.gif
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how about if i feed it to RES?
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post Mar 20 2011, 04:53 AM

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QUOTE(suprafire @ Mar 19 2011, 10:28 PM)
Do you mean that keeping RES is illegal in Malaysia?  shocking.gif
May I know what legal document i can refer to?  blink.gif
Thanks smile.gif
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section 117, Wildlife Conservation Act 2010.


QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 19 2011, 10:38 PM)
how about if i feed it to RES?
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no problem, just that it can't be used as staple for RES.

but make sure that the ID is correct, some lookalikes can be toxic.

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post Mar 20 2011, 03:50 PM

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My leo tort head is stuck inside his shell, meaning he cannot pull his head out... anyone encounter this b4? any advice beside going for vet?
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post Mar 20 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Mar 20 2011, 03:50 PM)
My leo tort head is stuck inside his shell, meaning he cannot pull his head out... anyone encounter this b4? any advice beside going for vet?
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what??first time i heard this problem..maybe the others had some experience about it..err maybe try use vacuum to suck it out? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif or it just keep the head inside,not stuck?

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post Mar 20 2011, 07:30 PM

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you are a funny man...
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I read that RES should need a basking temperature of 85F to 90F which is 29C to 32C... what if i bask them under sunlight? Malaysian temp is well over that range o.o how long can i leave my turtles out there? I tried leaving them in the sun for a couple of hours when i went back they're still basking and not trying to escape the sunlight...
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post Mar 20 2011, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Mar 19 2011, 12:35 AM)
just declare them bro. worth the try. just make sure that animals you declared are covered under 716 - there are indeed several animals (not turtles) under wildlife department's jurisdiction that were listed under 686 but not under 716, for these species i could only say tough luck.

plus, they had stated in Selangor Times that no action would be taken against those who declared this time.
considering the fact that the fines for keeping res is higher than illegal racing, well....  wink.gif
yes, many keepers indeed do that. just make sure that overall setup (temperature, humidity, etc) fits the requirements of the species you're keeping.
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Jus wonder can I still declare my radi?
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post Mar 22 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Mar 20 2011, 04:53 AM)
section 117, Wildlife Conservation Act 2010.
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Thanks for the heads-up, i checked out this new law:

Wildlife Conservation 61
PART IX
GENERAL
Controlled species

117. (1) No person shall keep, sell, purchase, import or export
any controlled species specified in the Fifth Schedule.

(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) commits an
offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding
thirty thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding
one year or to both.

FIFTH SCHEDULE
[section 3, 117]
CONTROLLED SPECIES

CLASS REPTILIA (REPTILES)
Boiga irregularis Brown Tree Snake
Trachemys scripta elegans Red-Eared Slider
Crotalus spp. Rattle Snake
Sistrurus spp. Pigmy Rattle Snake
Dendroaspis polylepis Mamba


So I guess it's illegal now; but it is being sold everywhere in pet shops, plenty of fines to collect i guess.
Is there any way to obtain a license to keep my RES?
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(suprafire @ Mar 22 2011, 12:04 PM)
So I guess it's illegal now; but it is being sold everywhere in pet shops, plenty of fines to collect i guess.
Is there any way to obtain a license to keep my RES?
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you would need to declare them with the department of wildlife before the end of june.

since there are no provisions for normal permits, permission for keeping them is most likely granted through special permission letter. (much like the special permission under act 686).


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Jus wonder can I still declare my radi?


yes you can declare them. but the decision on the issuance of permit for your tortoise is in their (department of wildlife's) hands.


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post Mar 23 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Mar 22 2011, 08:52 PM)
you would need to declare them with the department of wildlife before the end of june.

since there are no provisions for normal permits, permission for keeping them is most likely granted through special permission letter. (much like the special permission under act 686).
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Ok sounds fair, will visit the dept soon and declare my RES, thanks a lot guyz for the info; i had no freaking idea got such law... LOL
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post Mar 23 2011, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Mar 11 2011, 03:28 PM)
If I move over without my herd I am just as " 4 limbs bounded" as anyone of you over there !!

I prefer EAST !!


Added on March 11, 2011, 3:29 pm
I have more up my sleeves  !! MAY show more If I have the time to snap pictures to post !!
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Hi Sam,

Which part of East Malaysia you in? Ever consider to sell your tortoises?
SAMPERTH
post Mar 23 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(ncl1511 @ Mar 23 2011, 05:22 PM)
Hi Sam,

Which part of East Malaysia you in? Ever consider to sell your tortoises?
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Sabah !!

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More of my eggs finish " cooking" LOL


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post Mar 24 2011, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Mar 23 2011, 05:56 PM)

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More of my eggs finish " cooking"  LOL
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Beautiful hatchling =)
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QUOTE(iminuru @ Mar 24 2011, 07:47 PM)
Beautiful hatchling =)
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Thanks and a pretty rare one too (I think ) !!

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