As title, I would like to know it...

I know the difference is minor, but i wan to know lo... since I consider to might consider to buy 2nd Kelisa or 2nd /new Viva....

WHat is the reason u think so ?

thanks

This post has been edited by moon yuen: Apr 30 2010, 09:35 PM

OMG, can you be any smarter than this? toyota prius is better .....

Toyota is not in the list

dont be too dumb bro ... its between viva n kelisa.. n prius its a lot more expensive ler..

fuel efficiency ler, even kelisa also dohc engine, but viva hv DVVT+dohc engine for all type cc, for some model its dosent hv power steering n with front solid disc.. if i'm not wrong, the 1.0 engine has the best FC compare to other type cc..

This post has been edited by amad108: May 1 2010, 09:28 AM

u mean viva is better FC than kelisa...

yup..

my viva 1.0 manual RM20 KL-Kuantan... forgot to fuel in at LPT, still manage to reach kuantan.

last 40km drive at max 70km/hr without aircon.. hahaha

wow, u open window, then ???

I heard open window, ur car need to use more petrol to drive against the wind force.... Not true ?
or maybe Viva small car, impact is less ?

yes.. window open and smoking also.. 2 person on board. i think that only relate when we drive at high speed with open window, for medium speed no different at all

If driving with high speed...close the window will be better...
If driving with low speed..open window and off ur aircond...

izzit that big difference?

Emm...if u drive really fast on highway..yes! What i try before with my kancil..if i driving on 60km/h with air cond and without aircond..the different will be 28KM+ with RM20. Mean with aircond..RM20 can go 138KM..without aircond..it can reach 166KM..if driving more than 90KM/h at the same situation..with aircond can reach more far...

wad a good research u have done there bro haha

with my wira never had this result, for me turn on air-con only added more load on engine but not that until reduce FC.. i'm heavy footer, so hard for me to maintain the speed at 90km/h for long period.. what mostly differ only when long distance n town driving..

its all depend the driver driving right foot

Thanks guys

good luck with u in buying car..

viva DVVT and kelisa just DOHC....btw,model viva is newest than kelisa.....but if about powerful i still choose kelisa for pick-up...hehehehe

better get a new car no more problem or else....good luck to ur buying car....

KL-Kuantan how far?

Full tank RM 60 can hit 510km for automatic transmission, not sure about manual. 50% highway 50% city. Stock Kelisa.

Impressive !!

Mine RM40 usually can get 360-380km, 70% city-jam, 30% slow moving LDP "highway".
My habit is turn-off air-cond when going up sloppy road or accelerate when overtaking, but only off for very short period (<2 mins). Else my air-cond is on all the time unless weather is cold.

2003 Kelisa 1.0 Auto

This post has been edited by voscar: May 16 2010, 12:21 AM

no way kelisa will beat viva 1.0 dvvt

i have both cars at home
viva is better than kelisa
^^

viva got wat good than kelisa ?

of course more spacious n new tech engine.. the suspension type still da same which also same like kancil..

This post has been edited by amad108: Jul 4 2010, 05:20 PM

http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/feature...the-philippines

this one better

im not sure about Kelisa, but Viva engine is damn noisy la..

i rent a manual Viva during my holiday in Langkawi..RM20, can go for 160km yet still got 2 bar left..

bear in mind, Langkawi got hilly road..

wow, that's nice bro.. so rm20 = 200+km ? that's a lot better then kancil 850 manual bro, kancil only can get rm20 = 200km at most when highway driving..

Same also. All three cylinder engine will sound like lorry.

Indeed, when driving with speeds above 80km/hr, the engine will start to roar.

Owh, old times

Why do you revive 8 y.o thread?

Just in case someone still want to buy 3cylinder car

3 cylinder engine.. For daily drive from point A to B OK la

My viva town drive can get 350km range in one full tank.. xD

Not true.
I'm driving Axia. Manual.
My Axia has already done a trip to Muar , Batu Pahat and back.
Gone up Genting several times.

I beg to differ. Did you know some 3 cylinder sounds almost like in-line 6 cylinder engine?
Sounds way better than 4 cylinder.

Here is a video of compilation of 3 cylinder engine sounds.

BEST 3 CYLINDER CAR SOUNDS COMPILATION

The problem is not only the sound but the vibration too.

Vibration can happen even on 4 cylinder engines.
Like my friend's old Alza, engine mounting konk then got vibration also, after change mounting then feels much better.
My friend sat in my Axia and was surprised how quiet and no vibration during idling. Mind you, mine has done 75K already.

Of course mine is manual lah. No vibration during neutral gear.

The best vibration free and engine sound - is V6 engine. But you pay more for petrol and roadtax.

What 3 cylinder cars have you driven?

I've driven 2 modern 3 cylinder cars, Lynk & Co 03 with 1.5T 3cylinder in China (this vehicle shares the same engine as entry level Volvo XC40) and being an owner of a car with B38 3 cylinder turbo engine, vibration is not noticeable and they sound no where close to a lorry.

And I came from a VW with 4 cylinder turbo and having experienced both 4 cylinder & 3 cylinder, I have the credibility to tell genuine experience.

want to sound like lorry, drive diesel car.. hahah 3cyl or 4cyl also will sound lorry-ish from outside.. inside sound, depends on the nvh of the said car la..

My family used to drive the F30 328i with N20 4 cylinder engine and it sounds similar to B38 from outside, hence there's no clear relation between number of cylinders and how it sounds.

This post has been edited by budang: Jul 28 2020, 01:43 PM

Modern engine management, sound insulation and exhaust setting will help cancel out the sound..
Anything also can possible in reducing the vibration by having counterweight, harmonic balancer or engine mounting..
Is about how far and how much cost they are willing to pour into the car & engine R&D stage..

If this topic just talk about fuel consumption, for sure is Viva with the newer DVVT engine.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 28 2020, 03:55 PM

Cannot compare high end refinement car to Perodua la

Well you were initially saying all three cylinder will sound like lorry, now you're saying high end cars with three cylinder and perodua three cylinder cannot be compared.

*facepalm*

haha yea.. i'm not saying 3 cyl sounds more lorry than 4 cyl. i trying to say, regardless of 3cyl or 4cyl, if it is a diesel powered car (like 320d or some pickup trucks), from the outside, it will sound like a lorry..

Of course la. Only car enthusiast will know what I am talking about. It's all about refinement.

you have just invalidated yourself. lel

This post has been edited by budang: Jul 29 2020, 10:46 AM

thats good

So far its been like that la.. I think.. Its good? LOL. hahaha..

previously i used to drive my girlfriend viva since she went for overseas for a month .. im impressed with the FC .. but lately she already upgraded to swift , she said viva is the best for FC compared to the swift

Hahaha. Thats one of the reasons why I dont wanna change the car yet lol. So old car and yet so good FC. lol. haha. Imagine travelling. But my car sometimes got wiring issue. Happened a few times the wire connecting to the engine gets disconnected and results in the car getting stalled and engine dead. Thats what I worry if I wanna travel far. Actually planning to go langkawi and penang somewhere this year. But im just worried about the wiring only.

get it fix as soon as possible , send to trusted workshop

How big is viva's full tank? 30 litres?

Kelisa 1.0 manual can achieve similar mileage as well.

So far done ad, but not sure where to go for car wireman as my workshop guy call it.. lol. He say his friend at sungai buloh, so far away. lol. lazy drive so far even though im at pj. hahaha..

I think 35.. Not so sure.. Usually I pump like 29/30L full tank. So reserve maybe 5L or 10L, not so sure.. xD ANd forgot ad.. hahaha..

previously owned proton gen2 , wiring problem too .. there is one time turn off the engine completely , took out the key and put it in my pocket .. out of suddent the radiator fan turn on by itself

HAHAHA. Wireless engine start? HAHAHA

standard proton gen 2 where got wireless engine start , hahaha .. it just the fan turn on by itself but the engine remain off .. nearly got heart attack

hahaha.

Man why my viva elite 1.0 2010 rm 50 24.34 litre got only 270 km, which translate to 12 km/l full town driving, anyone got an idea why