Common sense lah OK.  The trend is the whichever model that is released later will be better becos newer tech,etc..
let say 1 or 2 years after this avante is launched,another new model comes out,ppl sure say thsi avante no good liao...aiyo..common

this is like preventing good cars coming into malaysia..
but if they do, it will end up like a stripped naked malaysian version ford fiesta, pathetic!

malaysian brands are not making a difference, its BORING! 100 types of edition/face-lift and $hit
that's why ppl want non-national cars, NAP cannot stop people..
look at korean cars! p1 and p2 should stop producing funny cars already

dumba$$!

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Added on July 28, 2010, 11:01 pmon topic,

grrr.. this car is 1.6L but produces 140ps!
+ 6spd transmission!
smexy

Every month, 500-600 Fortes are registered in the country. This compares favorably to Civic, Altis and even City (each of these three cars sells about the same amount every month). Msian mentality has already changed, bro. Even faster than anticipated.

What other changes do you want SD and Naza to make? Sell at cost price? There's nothing wrong with their selling prices at the moment. Unless and until the govt completely removes the protectionist policies, right now it's as good as it gets. Pls don't demand too much unless you want the company to lingkup because not enough profit margins.

If that happens, you may have paid less when buying your new Elantra or Forte but the price you actually pay is a bankrupt principle and super depreciation for your ride. I'm sure you won't want that, right? Remember what happened to Chevrolet and Renault last time?

lol avante selling for 100k+ in sg!!dafak

If you bother to look at MAA figures, you'll find that in June of this year, 499 Citys were sold compared to 590 Fortes. Then in July 544 Citys against 488 Fortes. For August, 806 Citys against 500 Fortes. The fact that a Korean make can trade blows with a hot favorite goes to show how the tide is changing. At this point, the word on the street is that Naza simply do not have the capacity to supply enough cars. Do you hear of any City buyers clamouring for stocks? Let's wait for Sept figures to see if the Aug sales for City was just a one-off fluke or indeed they are recovering.

And it's not that fair to compare YTD at this point. The 6-speed Forte only started deliveries after CNY. Before that they were trying to clear the old 4-speeder. Before CNY there is usually a big jump in sales due to many ppl wanting to own new cars for the festive season. I was also trying to get my Forte 2.0 b4 CNY but no stocks were available.

Why do you say that only Honda is recovering? You mean Toyota wasn't affected at all? Before the Forte, Korean cars were normally doing 30-100 cars a month. That was already considered a big deal. Look at them now, knocking on the heels of the bread and butter Jap cars. Also, many buyers who consider alternative cars other than T and H would also have considered the other Jap makes like Nissan, Suzuki, Mazda and also Euro brands like Pug and Ford. As far as those brands go, the Kia Forte has practically wiped the floor with them. Hyundai Elantra is bound to create a stir but it won't be at the expense of the cheaper Kia Forte. You also need to take into account the majority of buyers are more conservative, hence Toyota consistently outguns Honda. The same may happen with the Hyundai/Kia story too. Just like the Sonata, ya it looks futuristic and all, but a mere 100 cars a month (give or take)? Many ppl predicted that it would kill the Camry and Accord but lo and behold, that didn't happen.

Also, let's look at the macro side of things.

In 2009, 537,000 vehicles were sold. 29,387 Vios, 19,722 City.

In 2010, 605,000 vehicles were sold, 33,674 Vios, 19,944 City.

In 2011, 297,203 vehicles were sold between Jan-Jun, 16,816 Vios, 7,802 City.

Even before the tsunami hit, City was already losing ground while the Vios went up in sync with the number of cars sold (roughly 12.6%, from 2009-2010). Based on those figures, it is safe to say that the Vios' sales will be roughly status quo compared to last year. Where's that "increase a lot" that you were talking about?

This tells me that most ppl who buy the Vios are conservative folks who wouldn't consider anything else unless it's also a Toyota. Honda is slowly slipping in popularity, while the Koreans are definitely making headway.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here, merely looking at facts and figures.

i can assure you SD cannot match naza price, naza forte is ckd price.

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Added on October 6, 2011, 5:51 pm
if you understand mathematic,

forte is about 4000 now, vios is 20,000, and city is 8000. ( YTD until august, from you guys)

look at forte sales, its now 20% of vios, or 50% of city.

if you ever enter a meeting, with figures above, and tell ppl the forte is not significant, then .....good for you, you have a lot to learn. ( in reality, you'll either get fired, or no promotion)

you're not smart to quote 2009 and 2010 figure, because thats the year kia/hyundai started to show new design, and it need to gain momentum.

2012 will be even better for kia/hyundai.

and inspira is in, to take a cut, its YTD is aout 8000. and insight, 3000( another 1000 to go).

and peugeot 308.