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post May 21 2010, 11:02 AM

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Uh .... i get weird feedback from tmnut.

They say my place no Unifi, but the bungallows a street across have unifi. They are also in Mutiara Damansara also, so how come they have but i don't o_o; wtf ?? My residential area already has the green boxes installed same like those bungallows across the street so what is the problem i wonder. is it because the datuks live on the other side :/ ?? why got double standard.

And furthermore my place is between those bungallows and bandar utama which also has unifi, yet my place don't have why is that ??? vmad.gif


Here i link a screenshot for the areas i'm talking about

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The purple area is Bu. here probably already have unifi. Green area in damansara where the bungalows (they cost more then 1 million ringgit each unit doh.gif ) are confirm to have unifi. The red area where i am got the green boxes but yet no unifi yet ??? how can this be shocking.gif

Anyone know the logic behind this hmm.gif

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post May 21 2010, 12:00 PM

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Fair enough, but my area isn't a poor area :/ (granted that all townships have to build a low cost housing area, however that is further away from my area and is closer to the police station near the roundabout )

That is why i am confused why they bypass my area :[ To me it seems my area is already supported, but they decide to withold subscription for my area, but allow for the other half of mutiara damansara ? I noted that during the launch of the unifi website, their service locator also said my place got support. Soon after i reported this to tmnut, they took down that service locator and change to a more generalised answer for exchange point. Basically they want to cover up and say your area not supported yet when actually it is doh.gif ( are they trying to make the areas all have same launch date for new areas ??? and the other part of MU gets early hsbb because of well connected people living there ? )

Anyway this was the reply i got.

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Thank you for your interest in TM's new UniFi products. We are sorry to inform the current information as to future availability in your area, indicates service should be available in July 2010. I’m sorry we can give no exact date for your house.

Please if you have not already done so, take the time to enter your details expressing your interest at our UniFi website,

http://www.tm.com.my/connecting-you/digita...BBInterest.aspx



This registration will enable us to call or email you when service is available at your address.



Thank you again for your interest in UniFi.



It is no wonder malaysians are moving out to other countries. Too much corruption and favourtism for the burgeios. Where is the equality ? icon_question.gif

*vent off rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ May 21 2010, 07:31 PM)
My gf lives in the affluent Bukit Damansara and that green box is right in front of her house; and unifi is not yet available. Upon browsing the area, one can see that the cables are still being deployed.

Even if you see the fibre distribution points around your area, it does not guarantee service availability, this is what unifi cs told me.
BTW, I don't think has anything to do with VIPS living in the area or such.
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Thx for the explanation. I wish someone had told me this me before doh.gif

Hm... July..... starcraft 2 and unifi .... just in time laugh.gif

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QUOTE(klampers @ May 22 2010, 03:27 PM)
my place flora damansara got unifi already... smile.gif
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QUOTE(klampers @ May 22 2010, 03:38 PM)
haha..come come.. smile.gif
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*packs everything up and move over wub.gif

I call top bunker laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ May 23 2010, 10:41 AM)
It's ultimately up to the upper management. Installers are users too.. they don't want the cap either and no ones really sure about what TM intends to cap it at.
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Didn't they say they are not capping hmm.gif What happened to their promise ??

You know what would suck? If for now no cap, then few month later they add cap and nobody can do anything cauz already signed contract for 1-2 year shakehead.gif I have a feeling it's gonna be like that.

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QUOTE(TimKen @ May 23 2010, 10:51 AM)
I'm staying near georgetown area too, and i find it hard to believe that as a central city in penang it was not selected for unifi....
well i guess it's probably due to the cable laying problem  sad.gif
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Should have voted for umno. Now they are childishly getting back their revenge by depriving you people of your fair share of tax payer ringgit for development shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ May 25 2010, 03:37 PM)
rm149 is it whole package for VIP 5? Do i need to pay phone rental etc?
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I don't think so because VIP 5, 10 and 20 all come with Iphone.

Iphone uses the fiber >:x free locals calls if i remember right.
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ May 25 2010, 07:37 PM)
Iphone? really? or do you mean IP Phone?
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yeah sorry i mean't ip phone doh.gif

Telephony via internet wire >:]
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ May 26 2010, 02:29 AM)
If it has VLAN tagging support, yeap. But I can't guarantee anything, another LYN-er tried it with a dd-wrt flashed buffalo router and it doesn't seem to be working properly. I'm not sure if he was on VDSL Unifi or Fiberhome though..
Haha, I didn't test it out till today.. I had a spare quad core c2d rig around with 8gb of RAM in it. Hooked up 2 additional NICs (3 in total), tried pfSense on it and the Internet worked fine.. but the IPTV didn't work at all.. I think pfSense blocks multicasts and I'm not too familiar with FreeBSD to fix the problem.

So 'bout an hour ago, I reformatted the system and installed ubuntu server 10.04. System boots in 5-8 seconds and connects the PPPoE link in another 3-5.. brings my home network online from cold boot in <15 seconds. Services and iptables all configured manually from the shell using a script.

Had some issues with the IPTV VLAN <-> physical NIC bridge. If you don't set the IPTV VLAN priority > Internet VLAN priority.. the IPTV stream gets completely screwed up which is funny because I didn't notice any priority bits in my earlier packet captures.

Anyway, everything is working perfectly now. If you ever need a quad core Unifi router with a 1,000,000 connection sized state table + IPTV support.. rest assured you can build one from scratch tongue.gif

Furthermore, I'm just guessing here but I think TM has implemented MAC address filtering for their DHCP server on the IPTV VLAN. Their DHCP server will not acknowledge requests from non-set top box vendors. This means you can't hook up your laptops to view the streams anymore with my playlist unless you spoof the MAC address. Could probably set up a DHCP relay server with a spoofed MAC or something but I really don't care about the IPTV network much anymore.. I'm sick of TM reading what I post here and making changes without even giving any acknowledgment.
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Fair enough. Imho just keep the fix private since tmnut are azzhats. At least one of us can enjoy nod.gif

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QUOTE(Kclee2002 @ May 26 2010, 02:56 PM)
Gah this is ridiculous, TM called to say they can't find my house in their system. /facepalm.jpg
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How are you able to subscribe to 5mb business for home hmm.gif


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Changes that have 0 effect on the quality of their service but discourage power users from straying away from using their crap hardware.. therefore putting those users at a disadvantage.


Riv, so can we use alternate router instead of the dir-615 ???
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ May 26 2010, 08:23 PM)
y unifi don make a guide or giving information to public that wish to use their own hardware? DIR615 is more than enough for many users but still some users who own a better router than DIR615, y unifi wanna "force" us to use their dlink? what is their purpose? im not understand
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The router is not that good for p2p doh.gif I am a bit flabbergasted when people say it is lulz...


Router performance chart ( shows wan to lan, lan to wan, max throughput, and maximum simultaneous connections ) for a wide range of routers. This is real time performance so you know what you are getting. Keep in mind some router models have different revisions which may lead to different performances, for example i have a DIR-655 A2, but it doesn't have as many connections as the DIR-655 A4

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?o...emid=&chart=119




D-Link DIR-615 Wireless N Router review

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30349/187/


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But, more significantly, the 615 could reliably sustain only 32 connections in the maximum simultaneous connections test. Ubicom questioned these results when they first posted in the charts and said its tests (also done with IxChariot) produced results more like the 625's. D-Link had no comment on the results.


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With all due respect to the writer of this review, I feel I must disagree with their assessment of this router.

While cheap, in use this router reveals exactly why it does not cost much: the hardware is extremely weak, only supporting 32 simultaneous connections, with many other N routers supporting in excess of 200. This means that this router is extremely weak with regards to peer-to-peer technologies such as BitTorrent.

I have also found this router will crash if you keep it at that 32 connection limit for long enough.

It may be fine if you have a smaller connection (I have 50Mbit) or don't use peer-to-peer technology, but otherwise I would recommend getting a better router.


You still want to p2p when the router only can do 32 max simultaneous connections ?? doh.gif No gigabyte ethernet ports neither (who in this day and age still use 100mb ethernet ports max?). It is no wonder tmnut want to give us free router, because the router is so bad, you can't p2p at all even if you do find software methods to circumvent any throttling they do doh.gif

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QUOTE(rebirth @ May 26 2010, 11:23 PM)
dear all,

any unifi users here? I just got the unifi installed in my house here is sect 9 shah alam. VIP 5

I felt that it is faster than streamyx abit only.....I dont felt like really 5mbps.

anyone mind to share? i m planning to upgrade to VIP 10. got differences ma?
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Your upload speed should be better in 5 vips unifi vs 4mb screamyx.

also since your using fiber, the latency should be faster, you'd have to test ingame such as World of Warcraft us server to check on that.



@riv

So you got a tool so can connect directly to fiber modem without having to unplug router, and plug modem directly to pc ??? That is awesome brows.gif

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Just curious, but is everyone using the default dir-615, or are they able to use any better alternatives o_O; ??

Because i am planning to upgrade my router, but not sure what can work with the Unifi :/


Think it would be ok to complain to CFM why we cannot use other routers for Unifi hmm.gif ???


@riv

You mentioned about unifi being tied to registered mac address, this i don't think is a problem. DD-WRT firmware has an option to clone mac address. Can find out the dir-655 mac from under it or is it missing ? hmm.gif

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Help! My Internet still does not work!

A problem for which there is no single common fix. Understanding some basics about networking, subnets, NAT, etc. would be in your best interest to troubleshoot this issue. You may need to call your Internet Service Provider (ISP) for settings that are particular to your connection. Some ISPs not using PPPoE expect the MAC address (hardware address) of to router to match that of your computer, especially when you used your computer without the router to setup everything initially. You may need to use the "Clone MAC Address" feature. If using PPPoE, make sure you use the correct username and password. For cable and satellite users, generally DHCP is the correct setting. For Comcast Cable users, be sure to disable STP. For users trying to share a dial-up connection, you'll need to read the Wiki article Sharing Dialup. At any rate, it's a near 99% chance that the problem is not your DD-WRT firmware, but instead a lack of understanding with networking.


http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Index:FAQ

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QUOTE(76radius @ May 27 2010, 06:09 AM)
Rizvanrp

Yeah, my Unifi Dlink router got fried also. I just got free replacement yesterday. The Unifi people said mayb the router get too HOT. (But its 24 hours in the aircond room, I just wonder why, maybe the quality not vy good).
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Did you torrent a lot ? I suspect that is why doh.gif This router rely .. rely.... rely cannot one laugh.gif

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@riv

Another posters made one valid point, that using a spare pc solely for routing cost alot of $$ energy bill. Also not many port either >-<;

RB450G routeros seems the best bet, but too technical for most of us rclxub.gif

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So your saying simply plugin the fiber modem to the spare pc which have 2 ethernet port. One for the modem, and the other to main pc i am using. And the routing will automatically magically work hmm.gif ?? anything to configure.

Keep in mind my networking knowledge is as far as port forwarding the ports for torrent and some applications, thats about it laugh.gif The instructions provided too general, most of which i don't how to do shocking.gif


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You can wire a single NIC into a layer 2 switch


Whats a layer 2 switch biggrin.gif ??? How to configure this biggrin.gif ?


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run the Internet VLAN + your home LAN (192.168.x.x/24) over it


How to configure this biggrin.gif ?

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QUOTE(76radius @ May 27 2010, 07:07 AM)
Haha, Yeah Moogle, Rizvanrp is Networking Guru here. He helped me a lot. I am interested to know too.
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Hardware example. the atom motherboard + 1gig ethernet adapter + wireless 802.11b/g/n adapter + 5 port gigabyte switch + casing for the atom motherboard. The only thing missing is CPU and RAM.

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JetWay JATOM-GM1-330-LF Intel Atom 330 (flex ATX with 2 PCI and 1 PCIE):
http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/cgi-bin/...N82E16813153144

Intel PWLA8391GT 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter
http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/cgi-bin/...N82E16833106121

ASUS PCE-N13 IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express Wireless Adapter Up to 300Mbps
http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/cgi-bin/...N82E16833320048

D-Link DGS-2205 10/100/1000Mbps 5-Port Green Technology Desktop Switch
http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/cgi-bin/...N82E16833127083

Rosewill R379-M Black/ Silver 0.8mm SGCC Steel Slim MicroATX Computer Case with ATX12V Flex 300W Power Supply
http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/cgi-bin/...N82E16811147098

Source:
http://www.overclock.net/networking-securi...erver-atom.html
Routing software with firewall i am guessing.

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pfSense is a FreeBSD-based firewall tailored for use as a firewall and router. The project started in 2004 as a fork of the m0n0wall  project, but focused towards full PC installations rather than the embedded hardware focus of m0n0wall.

Common Deployments

Although mainly deployed as a perimeter firewall, pfSense is versatile enough to fill many types of deployments. Here is a short list of common deployments:

    * Perimeter Firewall - As discused earlier, this is by far the most common deployment for pfSense.
    * Router - Due to the ability to load balance connections and provide failover capabilities, pfSense makes for an ideal choice for a DIY Router for the SMB market.
    * Wireless Access Point - With the ability of Captive Portal within it, pfSense can easily be deployed as a wireless hotspot solution.
    * Special purpose appliance - Some users have decided to utilize pfSense in a unique way to help fulfill their unique needs.
          o VPN Appliance
          o Sniffer Appliance
          o Dedicated DHCP server
          o Dedicated DNS server


Features

pfSense includes almost all the features of expensive commercial firewalls, and more in many cases. Here is a list of features taken from the pfSense Features page.

    * Firewall
    * State Table
    * NAT
    * Redundancy
          o CARP - CARP from OpenBSD allows for hardware failover. Two or more firewalls can be configured as a failover group. If one interface fails on the primary or the primary goes offline entirely, the secondary becomes active. pfSense also includes configuration synchronization capabilities, so you make your configuration changes on the primary and they automatically synchronize to the secondary firewall.
          o pfsync - pfsync ensures the firewall's state table is replicated to all failover configured firewalls. This means your existing connections will be maintained in the case of failure, which is important to prevent network disruptions.
    * Outbound and Inbound Load Balancing
    * VPN - IPsec, OpenVPN, PPTP
    * PPPoE Server
    * RRD Graphs Reporting
    * Real Time Information - Using AJAX
    * Dynamic DNS
    * Captive portal
    * DHCP Server and Relay
    * Live CD Version Available


Minimum Hardware Requirements

The following outlines the minimum hardware requirements for pfSense 1.2. Note the minimum requirements are not suitable for all environments, see the Hardware Sizing Guidance page for information.

CPU - 100 MHz Pentium
RAM - 128 MB


Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PfSense
Some notes about using pfsense and some part of the hardware setup.

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Most important part of the new setup will be to turn off all the routing features on the Linksys router.  You need it to be in AP only mode.  You can still use it as your switch, but I would suggest getting a gigabit switch.  Either way, never plug anything into the WAN port of the Linksys box.  pfSense will now act as your DHCP and caching DNS server, so if you have any special configs on the Linksys be sure to program them into your pfSense.  Same goes for port forwarding, etc.  The only thing the Linksys will do from now on will be to act as an Access Point.

Install pfsense with LAN and WAN, just follow the onscreen instructions.  Make sure you can access the net from a normal PC client on the LAN.  If it works, then hook up your AdTran switch.  Hopefully at this point all the PCs will have internet.  Now try the wireless, you should get an IP from your new DHCP range on the pfSense.



And need to install an OS to the server i am guessing ????




Then have to configure the software for networking ????? Setting up the Vlans to connect to the modem rclxub.gif




See i more or less have a rough idea, but not the specifics doh.gif This seems a big investment and may not even have a return if don't know such technical things :[


This expresses my feelings regarding torrent on dir-615 unifi doh.gif
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QUOTE(76radius @ May 27 2010, 02:49 PM)
THANKS Rizvanrp. You are really networking Guru.

I can smile like never before now. Hehe. Your work was funtastic.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif , will throw my ciplang Dlink DIR 615 :-P
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Got any performance tests ?? utorrent maybe nod.gif



@riv

because the switch connects directly to the pc1-2-3, are those pcs protected by the router NAT ?

Is it that using your diagram, the internet traffic travels from modem to switch (but doesn't go to pc1-2-3 yet), then goes to router (traffic has to go through the router Nat) before it then goes back to switch and the traffic goes to p1-2-3. Is that how it works biggrin.gif ?


In regard to 5 port dumb/unmanaged layer2 switch, i found one.

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If you have more than one device on your network, you probably have a switch. A switch is a simple device that operates at Layer 2 of the OSI model, forwarding data frames from one device to another based on their hardware or MAC (Media Access Control) address. The basic Layer 2 switch does not care or know about IP addresses, which operate at Layer 3.

Your switch may be a few ports built into your router, it may be a small unmanaged (non-configurable) switch such as the D-Link DGS-2205

An unmanaged switch  can support VLAN  tagging to do prioritization but it doesn't support  dividing ports on separate VLANs.

Any trunking protocol supposes that switches on both sides are aware of it and run it.



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The DGS-2205 and DGS-1005D are the same unit, they just have different color housing and different model numbers.

The board and chipset are the same in both units.


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Auto MDI/MDI-X crossover on all ports eliminates the need for crossover cables or uplink ports recognition. Auto-negotiation on each port senses the link speed of a network device (either 10, 100, or 1000 Mbps) and intelligently adjusts itself for optimal performance. 


http://www.dlink.com.my/products/?idproduc...&idCategory=215

DGS-1005D RM 100, or alternatively there is a 8 port variant of this, the DGS-1008D @ RM160 PCZone Lowyat.



For router i want to get something like that Buffalo router with vlan support (not diy pc router). You mentioned there is an issue with the vlan ip tables for that router, is it only specific to that router, or is it the DD-WRT firmware ??? hmm.gif

If the problem is with the DD-WRT, does tomato let you configure the vlan?? I'm looking for a not so buggy, straight forward solution to this notworthy.gif



As a side note, here is an interesting article about vlan hm hmm.gif (digesting)
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30071/53/

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ May 28 2010, 02:17 AM)
Well, I really shouldn't have said 'layer 2' switch because all switches are layer 2 switches and now you're confused ._.

5 port 10/100mbps switches only cost around RM40+ and its good enough for the job. If you have an old router with 4 LAN ports around the place, you can even use that. Basically you just need a switch, nothing special.
Yesh, that's how it works. The internet traffic from the fiberhome <-> switch <-> router PC is all on VLAN 500 so it doesn't affect any non-VLAN traffic.

And the bug with the Buffalo is probably unique to that particular dd-wrt firmware which is running on it. It's just an iptables issue so you have to set a script to flush the FORWARD-ing table. Not sure about using Tomato, never tried it before sad.gif Still, the Buffalo doesn't have port based VLAN tagging either which means you can't set up IPTV on it.
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Ah... hmm.gif (digest)


But i think 100mbps switch may not be enough for me, because i got a QNAP 509 pro in my network to connect between my pc. So the gig speed is pretty important for me :] From my testing i get like speeds of 60-90 MB/s between my pc and Nas when i use my Dlink DIR-655.

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1000 Mbps = 125.00 MB/s theoretical max speed.

100 Mbps = 12.50 MB/s theoretical max speed.





Anyway i just checked the WZR-HP-G300NH don't have vlan port just like you just said :{
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php...200774cc9df1f92

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=69034


I'll google see if i can find one which does hmm.gif Or does someone already know ?



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Originally Posted by Cytomax 
After spending a few hours reading that vlan stuff my friend just called me up with a good idea that i think ill be using...
DSl-->Switch-->Routers # 1 (WAN IP X & LAN IP 192.168.0.1/24) and Router # 2 (WAN IP Y & LAN IP 192.168.1.1/24 )



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That's double NAT'ing...YUCK! The inside network suffers performance, some online apps can get quirky...plus the inside network can actually find and browse the outside network. Not visa versa though.

Port Based VLANs are wicked easy.
Take your router...plug it into port 1 on your managed switch.
Take Network A...and plug them into..say....ports 2-8. Make ports 2-8 members of VLAN1..and also make port 1 a member.
Take Network B..and plug them into say..ports 9-15..and make them VLAN2...also adding port 1 as a member of this VLAN.

Done. Network A computers cannot see Network B computers..and Network B computers cannot see Network A computers. They both share access to the router via port 1.

Todays managed switches are just as easy to log into and configure as your regular old Linksys router...through a web management interface.


Source: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1351534



So basically the method your suggesting is double Nat is it hmm.gif ?

Is what that other guy suggesting for port based vlaning doable for this Unifi :/ ?


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QUOTE(busbos @ May 28 2010, 08:40 AM)
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