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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V5, Still, NO cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now

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rizvanrp
post Jul 4 2010, 01:18 AM

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I'd go for biz5 but I really prefer having 20mbps of max bandwidth. We could probably get them to remove the daily cap but I'm sure the monthly cap will stay. Perhaps our best option is to come up with a local p2p system and pool our resources together.. saving the available data quota for streaming purposes. I've seen it work on those uTorrent webui services here on LYN anyway :3
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post Jul 4 2010, 11:03 AM

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@Moogle

I've seen the Fax settings in the Fiberhome but you need a console cable to access it (along with a usable RS232 port on your PC).. I don't know what to set or how to save the settings permanently though since it's downloaded every time the fiberhome reboots. Best to just ask TM to do it for you and not brick your Fiberhome unit, lol
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post Jul 4 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(sailou @ Jul 4 2010, 03:09 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1463067&hl=

This fella is an agent for UNIFI. He claims after quota for VIP5 capped to 3mb, VIP10 capped to 8mb, VIP20 capped to 18mb. Is he giving the correct fact or misleading all his potential customer?

One thing for sure if all the lines are capped to a mere 5% after quota, it's quite ridiculous. Better to get a 1mb or 4mb line.
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It's pretty obvious that no one knows what will happen once you hit the cap (daily or monthly). My installers told me in March that he heard it was a b/w reduction to 5-15% of your max package speed. Unifi tech support all say its 5-10%. Capping each package by 2mbps doesn't seem like much at all. A 2mbps reduction would barely be noticeable to most people.. you'd still hit 2.0MB/s+ on torrents for VIP20. It's not in scale with the package speeds.

I don't know how you can tell your potential customers that you are certain about these values when nothing has been fixed yet. The only thing that's certain is there will be a cap and if you can't live with that, you should stick to Streamyx. Those of us who have already signed up will just have to learn to live with bandwidth quotas.
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post Jul 4 2010, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 4 2010, 09:30 PM)
Heck, if either you or Riz come up with something, do let me know as well, lol.
Excellent observation. So far I'm getting the full 20Mbps speed. Not perfect, with slight ups and downs, but at least it is still consistent enough to be called a 20Mbps speed. The thing that pisses me off, however, is the damn D-Link wifi router that comes with it. It's totally useless. I'm thinking of getting myself some Aztech homeplugs to run it off LAN soon.
True. Right now, nobody knows what will happen in the future. I think it's most likely due political reasons. And the final say, will inevitably also be based on political reasons.
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Chillin' in the Unifi hub with Moogle and hashing files in the background =x Local speeds are pretty awesome
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post Jul 4 2010, 11:36 PM

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DC++, I set up a hub on a dedicated VPS + IP blocking so only Unifi users can join in at the moment :3

Edit : If you other Unifi users wanna help me test it out, just point your dc++ clients to hub.athena.my smile.gif Make sure you have UPNP properly configured + 1024MB minimum to share.

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I set the min share to 0bytes now so people wont get booted on first join. The only problem is the port forwarding which some users are having.. setting the client to UPNP sorta fixes everything if you're on the DIR-615 :3

Also, its interesting looking at the speeds some people are getting. Moogle's on 10mbps but he's maxing out at 520KB/s per thread.. this other user is on 5mbps and he's pulling 640KB/s per thread easily :3

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post Jul 5 2010, 10:54 AM

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@rizfield

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B
http://www.apexdc.net/ <- client we're using

It's a centralized P2P software. Clients make direct connections to each other but they're all tied together by a central hub.

@+newbie+

Lul doubt it doh.gif It seems to be some issue on his side.. been this way for a while.

Anyway the hub is really fast at the moment, there's like 30-35mbps of bandwidth already with 3 users and 2TB of data (thanks to moogle doh.gif).
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post Jul 7 2010, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(babybee @ Jul 7 2010, 09:30 PM)
guys want to ask you all a question.

M planning to throw away the DLINK router that TM gave me. It sucks and hanged 3 times in 1 day.

I'm planning to use a Debian Server with 4 NIC's.

1 to WAN
1 to IPTV
1 to Wireless AP
1 for Spare

the package i am planning to use is to enable VLAN on the debian box is
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/vlan

Anyone with experience on this matter do contact me smile.gif

my google talk id is david[at]thesyko.net

Thanks guys.
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You need to install the vlan modules (8021q), vconfig and bridge utils.

Assuming eth0 = from fiberhome

modprobe 8021q
vconfig add eth0 500
vconfig add eth0 600
ifconfig eth0.500 up
ifconfig eth0.600 up

Use bridge utils (brctl) to bridge eth0.600 with eth1/2/3 <-- your IPTV NIC.. for IPTV to work without the video screwing up you also have to set the bridge priority (egress and ingress thingy) to 7

Create a ppp profile.. make sure you set 'plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0.500' so it dials over eth0.500.. set up IP forwarding, iptables, etc.

Sorry for the half-assed guide in sick as hell IRL and I don't have a debian/ubuntu box to configure at the moment.

I used to use a ubuntu server box for this.. I just set up a boot script to run in the end to set everything up for me. Pulling all this from memory ><"
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post Jul 8 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(babybee @ Jul 7 2010, 11:43 PM)
just a question, i am supposed to set an IP address for the vlan interfaces right what IP's do i set?

I'm planning to do some solid QOS'ng on the HSBB line. I dont want torrenting to screw-up my Youtube and streaming experience. Currently I'm using DD-WRT but the damn QOS in the box isnt that solid.

I also want to get my email server to run smoothly and not choke out of bandwidth. I was looking at smoothwall & ipcop but they dont support vlan.
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VLAN interfaces don't need ip addresses. They just have to be 'up'.

For QOS I'm not sure what you're going to have to use.. probably iptables or something. Everything has to be done manually. The problem with using endian/pfsense/smoothwall/ipcop is not only do they have to support PPPoE over VLAN (which endian and pfsense do), they have to support VLAN bridging for IPTV (which endian and pfsense dont).
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post Jul 8 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jul 8 2010, 06:30 PM)
just another question here, since it mentioned "international connection"
izit possible that we find a VPN service(i am sure it's easy finding here in LYN) to tunnel from local -> US? that way we are still counted as local connection right?
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Yes, but no local VPN service is going to give you unmetered 5/10/20mbps on a Malaysian server. Even if you find a web hosting provider which gives you 1TB/mth for RM250-400.. the local datacenter staff would come down hard on them the moment you start using 5/10/20mbps for more than a couple of hours. Besides that, if you're going to be paying that much you might as well sign up for BIZ10 anyway smile.gif
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QUOTE(namee @ Jul 10 2010, 06:47 PM)
Can anyone let me know bout this stuff?
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post Jul 10 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(yoci @ Jul 10 2010, 11:15 PM)
No one using homeplug here?
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Not many AFAIK. I had a user ask me about them on his own setup.. he said he's using it for IPTV streaming (1-to-1) with two homeplugs. SD channels stream fine but HD channels are stuttering and stuff (likely due to bandwidth issues). You also cannot use two pairs of homeplugs to serve IPTV + Internet over the same power wiring, it causes a traffic prioritization issue and IPTV totally gets screwed up even on SD channels.

I don't really recommend using homeplugs for IPTV myself. Best to pull a cat5e/6 cable directly biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yoci @ Jul 10 2010, 11:56 PM)
Thanks for sharing, rizvanrp.

Is the user that you've mentioned using the 85Mbps or 200Mbps homeplugs? Just curious...

Anyway, I only plan to use a pair of homeplugs exclusively for IPTV streaming.
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He just said it was a 2 port homeplug .. I think with wireless or something. I'm assuming its the 200mbps. 1 unit directly into the wall, another into a power strip.

IPTV only needs 8-10mbps to function properly anyway but this stream cannot have any connection interference.

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Jul 12 2010, 11:47 AM)
Hi guys, I got my VIP20 installed yesterday! rclxms.gif First and foremost, I'd like to thank rizvanrp for sharing his expertise. (Thanks bro!) notworthy.gif  I've secured my network and bridged the DIR-615 to my WRT54GL. The DIR-615 was running v7.05 firmware and the default operator password worked. I'm staying at an apartment on the 4th floor, but somehow got FTTH instead of VDSL2 due to the weird design of the building. I got the Alcatel BTU, and the technician mentioned it was smaller and better-looking than the other two? I wonder how the other two look like.

Anyway, I've got a couple of questions that I hope you could shed some light on:

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Thanks in advance.
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1) Yes, 110.159.x.x for Unifi home.. you can't go out of this range at the moment. I've used both 4mbps and Unifi.. and for tunneling, Unifi has way better latency for me than 4mbps Streamyx. As for latency without tunneling, this really varies from day to day and it's the same with Streamyx.

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For ICMP tests I average 190-210 for US servers.. mostly between 191-193ms stable for my tunneling servers. If you're getting 19x/20x ms for ICMP tests but 250ms+ ingame, this is a limitation of encapsulating WoW TCP based traffic within an encrypted SSH tunnel which is also TCP based. I've asked some tunneling providers to switch to the openvpn platform (with an unencrypted UDP based tunnel) in the past but most of them either don't care about a 20-40ms stability benefit or don't know how to setup openvpn. I've set up private game tunnels for my friends and they're much faster than the public servers which people pay for tongue.gif

2) For PSN downloads and stuff, its definitely the increased bandwidth. I'm not really going to go into protocol and physical comparison for base latency between Unifi FTTH and ADSL over Copper since this has been covered in the past on this thread. For local connections, expect 9-25ms+ latency on Streamyx but a stable 1-3ms on Unifi FTTH. If you want to contact other Unifiers to run tests yourself just hop onto the Unifi DC++ hub, everyone there is on the service.

3) It depends. So far, I've had a direct lightning strike to my phone line (same pole where Unifi's fiber cabling comes from) and while my telephone equipment on that copper line was damaged, the Unifi equipment was fine. I'm assuming you're safe from lightning strikes via communication cables but if it comes through your power lines.. make sure you have a surge protector/UPS on it. The DIR-615 is highly vulnerable to voltage spikes. I've been using my Unifi line in major thunderstorms without any issues (no disconnections, line quality drops or fried equipment).

4) Cause its run by TM. You should notify them about it, I don't think people would steal the fiber cabling but if the physical infrastructure is that open.. I'm sure someone could just open it up and accidentally break it. I'm guessing a person with the proper knowledge could also wire himself up to the Unifi network for free tongue.gif

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2) Read about the DC++Hub but it looks like you need to share something, my problem is my network only online when i back home till next morning...i may get others angry if i'm not sharing things there beside upload... do they allowed me if want to test my dll?
I only expect a min 1GB share.. you don't have to constantly upload (or leave your PC on) but don't leech nonstop either. I'm not enforcing this strictly at the moment but sometimes its annoying when you see people sitting in the hub for 24 hours+ with 0 bytes shared. Many users now are just sharing random files, some people may need them. Ultimately, the purpose of the DC++ hub is to act like a local cache/distribution network in the event that there's some massive underwater cable cut or we have monthly caps implemented for international traffic. Since everybody is on a min 5/10/20 package and this a distributed network with file segmentation + multi-source downloads, you'll always be looking at 500KB/s speeds at minimum. This can't work if nobody wants to share anything smile.gif

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post Jul 12 2010, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(farkinid @ Jul 12 2010, 02:19 PM)
Hmm, free unifi yousay? But even if they have physical access to the network, they still need to go through an authentication server right? Therefore, no account, no line.
Lets say I have file HappyTimes.avi which nobody else has in the hub. At the same time I'm seeding RizvanrpHappy.avi on torrent at 300KB/s. So if Kimie decides to download HappyTimes.avi from me, wouldn't his speed be approximately 250KB/s only?
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If you have the knowledge wink.gif I can easily grab 10-30 Unifi accounts on a dial up line within a few seconds myself and use them without alerting the owners.

DC++ splits files into segments, when you download a file you're actually downloading chunks. I'm not entirely sure if in this situation the chunks which have already been downloaded by that other guy will be sent to Kimie from him while they're both downloading off you (much like how it is with BT). I guess we'll find out when more users join biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Jul 13 2010, 01:32 AM)
use utorrent 2.0.2

Default is great enough.
Rapidshare have caps I think even for premium users.

VIP5 is usually 600kB/s (0.5MB/s) max if capped the right way.

Really irks me when people salah info on bit and bytes.. sweat.gif
3MBps - 384kB/s
3MB/s - 3072kB/s

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I tot ..

Megabits per second = Mbps

Megabytes per second = MBps

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Jul 13 2010, 01:36 AM)
lol. Typo there.

You're right! biggrin.gif
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That being said I don't really know what the last few posters are saying because I'm not sure if they mean megabits/megabytes per second sad.gif
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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jul 13 2010, 01:41 AM)
i dont know this is 2MBps or what.
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Thats 2.2 megabytes per second -- or equivalent to VIP20 speed. If you're on VIP5 and getting that speed your account has been misconfigured smile.gif

Infact, I rarely see that speed on HTTP connections. Your account may be capped at speeds higher than 20mbps (or uncapped even). Wouldn't be too noisy about this brows.gif

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post Jul 13 2010, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jul 13 2010, 01:47 AM)
LOL! IS IT ?? DAMN! Then what is VIP5 speed supposely to be ???
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0.5MB/s.. or less than 1/4th the speed you're receiving at the moment.

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Btw, is this the speed you're getting? Because I've only seen this speed on uncapped Unifi accounts. If you're getting 3.0MB/s+ on utorrent you're definitely way above the 20mbps cap.. so your account is uncapped.

I'd log into your dir-615 and ensure that the account there is indeed your own and not accidentally left behind by the technician. If its not your own, do not post the username or password here.

Whether you wanna tell TM or wait for them to find out, its up to you smile.gif Enjoy the speed man

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post Jul 13 2010, 01:58 AM

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10MB/s up/down is easily achievable on these accounts.. but during day time it defaults to about 30-50mbps for some reason.. must be their infra. Lucky guy lol

I'm not using any uncapping methods/bugged accounts because I'm pretty sure it's easy to spot on the ISP side. But once again, this just goes to show how TM is overcharging for this service when these speeds are easily achievable

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