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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V5, Still, NO cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now

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post Jun 21 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(mox123 @ Jun 21 2010, 09:08 PM)
Thanks bro, you're one of those kind persons who wld answer my idiot question   thumbup.gif

Yup, I might want to order one......but just wonder why this brand cannot be found in those retail shops.....is this brand ok? Might want to "GOOGLE" a bit first  tongue.gif
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I recommend you google rt-n16 vs wndr3700 because they are very close in terms of pricing performance. I prefer the RT-n16 because can use teddy bear tomato and has more max simultaneous connections (50,000) vs the wndr3700 (4000)

Or if you don't mind sacrificing third party firmware support for awesome performance, you can get ESR-9850 (50,000 msc) like what i did.

Using the ESR-9850 to be honest, i wouldn't have mind getting RT-N16 for third party support cauz they have some neato features i could use hmm.gif

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post Jun 21 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(PGGTrader @ Jun 21 2010, 09:36 PM)
Moogle Stiltzkin, thanks for the input, but sometime it is not just the max simultaneous connections that matters, there is a lot more in a router that needs to be taken into consideration, if you look at smallnetbuilder.net review, WNDR3700 is stlll the reference model for its category and sometime people might be looking at a specific feature such as simultaneous dual band, gigabit LAN, strong wireless signal or fast wireless transfer speed. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I totally agree :/

the RT-n16 throughput not as good as the wndr3700 for starters. Both of them don't even match the ESR9850.

It's these things like features and performance you weigh and decide which suits you better :]


Right now dlink just announced a 450mb wireless n router. Trendnet also already has a 450mb wireless n router available as well. I personally wasn't too bothered by that because i use wireless sparingly :] could be important for others though.

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post Jun 21 2010, 11:06 PM

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ESR-9850. Stock firmware good and performance better then the other 2.

Much cheaper than the other 2 :/

Higher price doesn't mean better. and if your all not expert just use stock firmware not third party cause youll just end up bricking your router.


If you require wireless client mode meaning the router can access other wireless access points, then yes get either the netgear or asus, but your gonna have to install third party like dd-wrt or tomato teddy bear carefully tongue.gif



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post Jun 22 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(5w33 @ Jun 22 2010, 06:09 AM)
I notice that ESR-9850 comes with the function of port bandwidth limit right? Is that available on wndr3700?
Been reading quite a few review and the netgear website, none of them mention this. sad.gif
Misleading statement. There's a 4 port D-Link router included.
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yES WNDR3700 with dd-wrt should have qos, however from what i heard their implementation for QOS sucks so you may want to google up more about it.

Tomato on the other hand is said to have very good working qos.


I was testing the ESR-9850 qos bandwidth allocation. So far still testing so i can't comment whether it works good or not :/





Anyway, i was told i can upgrade my 4mb to unifi no problem. But they say cannot terminate 4mb until end of this month because i subscribed to it 3 months back.

But i specifically told them i upgrade from 4mb, to unifi, not as if i am keeping 4mb + unifi together. So why are they saying have to wait till the end of the month to cancel it?

Any ideas rclxub.gif i'm pissed off at tmnut.


Added on June 22, 2010, 9:01 pm
QUOTE(mox123 @ Jun 22 2010, 09:40 AM)
Thanks for your input.....will look into this particular model :-)
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Np : cool.gif


Added on June 22, 2010, 9:09 pm
QUOTE(rioven @ Jun 22 2010, 01:28 AM)
off topic: moogle..where do you buy esr-9850??
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http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1009...R9850/EnGenius/


I only paid less then Rm290 for it, air mail shipping included. I wasn't even taxed. Took about 2 weeks to arrive. Because it was on back order so it took a little longer. The packaging was secure.

The power adapter had to be changed though to work for Malaysia power socket. Good thing i had a spare power adapter from a previous router laugh.gif

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post Jun 23 2010, 08:06 PM

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Can someone test if my site works :/

http://mognet.no-ip.info

10mb unifi doh.gif
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post Jun 23 2010, 08:35 PM

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Yeah i rebooted server try now.

It hanged earlier, i think someone trying to crash server dos attack :/

I have my suspicions who it was o_o;
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post Jun 23 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas @ Jun 23 2010, 08:42 PM)
nice site. how to register as member and login?

20mbps enough to do dos attack?
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I just updated the site with the details.

Anyone can register for an account there, but you must request via the comment in any news article post asking for VIP access.

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Riv tested it the other day, he could get like 500 kb/s


If got an anime request can also put in the site comment.

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post Jun 23 2010, 10:12 PM

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Ok i promoted 2 people signed up so far. Try download doh.gif
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post Jun 23 2010, 11:30 PM

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Try now, it should work.

I'm using buddy press theme.

The reason the log in didn't work is because i have a captcha plugin. So when you click log in on main website, it fail. But it should redirect you to a login page that had the captcha.

Anyway i disabled it for now doh.gif


Theres also an option now to upload and use your own avatar. Even if the picture is big, it will let you crop it nod.gif

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QUOTE(dr3nchippo @ Jun 24 2010, 01:50 AM)
nice site moogle.. signed up for ur site but never got the activation email..
maybe us unifiers can do some sort of file-sharing like this, im sure the speed would be nice, as the local speeds were getting is closed to the ones we subscribed..

btw, rizvan what's a dc++ hub??
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Yeah i just noticed. I tried making a dummy account but i also never received the mail :/ so the account doesn't go active.

If got any coding sensei who can help regarding this, that would be great icon_question.gif

Anyway for now, just pm me which email you signed up under and i will put a dummy password. And you can change it yourself.

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my site working now doh.gif

http://mognet.no-ip.info


Had to update firmware because cpu was overloaded lulz biggrin.gif


So anyway you must be asking what is the relevance for my site and unifi.

Well i'm trying to prove whether unifi can honestly host your own website while you continue to download stuff e.g. torrent, xdcc or megaupload simultaneously. If it can't do that, then it's a uber fail.

Many Japanese host sites from their own connection by the way.

Still testing it out, but so far it's looking good. But as soon as they enforce cap, i may need to take the site off since upload is taken into account for total bandwidth usage doh.gif

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QUOTE(dr3nchippo @ Jun 25 2010, 12:42 AM)
u meant VoIP right?? nope u get a new number and caller ID service thrown in as well..
as for the IPTV, cant really say much, rarely watch it anyway.. maybe its just me but i think Tm's local channel is a lil bit sharper..

ur planning to subscribe anytime soon?? a couple of my neighbors subscribed this month, i see TM's van practically once every week..
so much for boycotting huh?? hahahaha  laugh.gif
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What neighbourhood is that?

I think i am the only one here. Got like 2-3 others but their a bit further away from me hmm.gif
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post Jun 25 2010, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Jun 25 2010, 12:50 AM)
Eventually people will give in and just register. You dont have much of a choice anyway. Once its avaliable in my area , I would gladly jump the ship. You know why , its because of the symmetrical speed. 10Mbps both ways is amazing. You could host your own mini server and run your own site. I am running my own site currently but then streamyx' upload is not the greatest.

@Moogle Stiltzkin - You should run phpSysInfo  , something like what I do
http://prasys.homeunix.org/phpsysinfo/. Anyway I gotta get up and running, my very own small blog about server and the ability to access my Intranet from the world outside. Gotta secure up first tongue.gif
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Exactly. I think the most important thing about Unifi is the possibility of home servers.

But that is only if they don't go ahead with their ridiculous capping policy.


But for now..... it is possible doh.gif question is for how long. Yeah Riv helped me get my server up and running again biggrin.gif




@MunDsuM


5mb unifi = people who download from rapidshare/megaupload free subscriber mode. No point getting better speed if your download sources are those sorts of free file sharing sites.

10mb unifi = for people that want to download fast and share with 4 or more users. The upload is nice for a mini web server, but the bandwidth for torrent and mini server may conflict :/ meaning not enough to do both. On 10mb i spend more time thinking what to download because i download too fast shocking.gif Power users wouldn't be too saddened only having 10mb instead of 20mb, especially when considering the price.

20mb unifi = expensive and honestly i don't think people need this speed at this price, not unless your planning to webhost from your unifi like i am.


But at the end of the day, you must not forget about the cap they may later enforce. If you believe the malaysian consumer will make enough complaints/waves for them to revise or remove the cap entirely, and your ok with paying for the sickening high premium price for ftth broadband, sign up. if not don't cauz it's a risk and it's pricey doh.gif

I was on 1mb for a long time even when 4mb was available. The truth of matter is, tmnut has been a monopoly since independence day and till now and onwards. So i wouldn't hold my breath any longer sticking to 1mb. Just vote for new government when you get the chance. That is the only way there will be any change rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Gh-x @ Jun 25 2010, 09:01 AM)
Moogle: i have register as a user of your site but i can't login.
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What do you mean you can't login.

Did you check your email and click the link to enable your account ??

You also cannot download until you make a request for vip by joining the vip group and i manually upgrade you to that level. sweat.gif
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prasys helped me fix my mysql issue.

please test if my site works thx peeps.

http://mognet.no-ip.info


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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jun 25 2010, 08:35 PM)
Nice speed, I am getting full speed from my 1mb connection
It will be good if you add more downloads such as software or games
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Nah that is illegal.

I only take anime requests only doh.gif
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QUOTE(prasys @ Jun 26 2010, 12:19 AM)
Glad I managed to find your issue with the server. I guess now your server should handle it well nevertheless

@Moogle Stiltzkin

You just need a bit more tweaking , you may wanna limit the number of concurrent connections which can be made to your server per IP. What this does is that it prevents those idiotic download managers like Xunlei to do 50-100 connections to your server thus sucking your bandwidth. You can limit 1 person to like 2 concurrent connections. Prevents them from  using your bandwidth too much tongue.gif
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Yeah i'll try to figure that out hmm.gif *scratch head

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Don't anybody else get ideas shocking.gif
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MX,

Please ask them either no cap, or higher cap for consumer packages, if they insist on charging us at the current pricing.

20 mb consumer broadband package should at least be 600gb + monthly minimum. Daily caps will not be tolerated shakehead.gif

How can Malaysia be highest cost broadband in the Asian region and yet still have cap (daily to boot !) It's just too absurd. Other Isp in the region is cheaper and without cap, so wtf shocking.gif




or, they should reduce the pricings substantially if they insist on using caps.



Even better yet is if they do a mixture of both but a fairer compromise for pricing (cheaper) + monthly bandwidth cap (higher monthly cap) then what is currently on offer. No daily cap shakehead.gif



No cap means like a buffet. Eat as much as you want until your satisfied. Nobody ever finishes everything, and nobody feels inconvenienced about limits. If the ISP thinks they can make profit while giving the consumer this feeling of unrestrictive internet, then by all means.

Bandwidth cap, is a fix portion that is allowed, which is fine as long as the price reflects that limit which in my honest opinion doesn't for the broadband cap their trying to sell to us now. And that is the biggest gripe people are having about Unifi hmm.gif How do they expect to cap at such a low monthly bandwidth usage and at that price ?? It's just plain greed doh.gif

Just like how Malaysia authority has under rated what speed is considered broadband, so has the tmnut monopoly also underated how much monthly bandwidth usage makes a person an abnormal bandwidth hog. In this day and age when the regular netizen uses stuff like utube, bandwidth usage has gone up. Gone are the days when people only use the internet for emailing or web surfing only.

As such how can they expect us to pay premium prices and yet restrict our usage under the premise of fair usage when it was never fair to begin with :/ (remember we were already paying premium prices before, and yet they are scaling prices higher even more still)

I guess this is to be expect of a monopoly when there are few viable alternatives and people only have 1 isp which is lesser of the few evils in terms of pricing/broadband packages/availability.


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What stability issue are you talking about?

First thing you should do is follow Riv's guide to use your own router. With the crappy dir-615 out of the way, then you can do some actual testing. So we can b**** about stability, but at the end of the day we all know that default router is unreliable to do any proper assessment of unifi.

I can get 1.1 Mb/s dl and ul max.

When torrenting, this is not a surety because it really depends on seeds.

I tested speeds on what.cd private torrent tracker and i can get the full speed. I even managed to get max speed on demonoid which is kinda like a private tracker but not quite. Basically for torrent downloads, if it's well seeded, yes you will max out, if not, then no.

Right now i'm downloading a torrent and it fluctuates between 300 kb/s to 1 Mb/s but this is nothing to do with Unifi stability :/ (especially since i am not using their shitty router, mines an ESR-9850)

Using Jdownloader to download megaupload sources using a premium account, i can max out using 4 connections.


Mirc download via xdcc bots does not seem to be throttled. When downloading from a xdcc bot on 4mb streamyx i only got like 10-30 kb/s but on unifi i get the full 200-400 kb/s from the same bot. If you are wondering why that isn't near the 10mbps broadband speed, that is because mirc xdcc bots usually have lower upload caps then if you downloaded from torrent or direct download most of the time. Anyway my example is just to show there is no throttling active for mirc as of yet.


Currently i am satisfied with the dl/ul speed i am getting right now, although 10mb broadband should be hard capped @ 1.2 Mb/s, but the max i've seen is 1.1 Mb/s. They really should hard cap at the promised speed, and not just slightly below it like they always do :/ Maybe Riv can explain why it is like this.


As for IPTV, it streams fine with no stutter when using my Homeplug as i don't want long dangling rj45 ethernet cables stretching around the house.

Does fax work? Not that i have seen.


Iphone need a physical wire from the modem directly to it. So if you want to put the iphone in the living room, and the router in another room, you will have a small ugly wire dangling on the floor, can't be helped. Iphone wiring is the only part i didn't particularly like.


my 10 mb is being shared between 5 devices and there seems to be enough bandiwidth going around for computer users. I'm a downloader and the other users are mostly surfers. I segregated the bandwidth allocation to 8mb and 2mb. 2mb is used by all other devices, and mine uses 8 mb minimum reserved bandwidth.

I just give my setup as an example. If you want a bigger pie for bandwidth allocation, then you'd have to go for 20mb so more bandwidth to go around.



For web hosting, all unifi packages are fine since the uploads are same speed as the downloads. You can visit my website to see how it is like. I have some downloads available for the time being for testing web hosting speed, however i already setup a QOS to limit the upload for it doh.gif
http://mognet.no-ip.info



The only thing that could ruin unifi right now is cap if it ever gets enforced. Right now it hasn't yet :/

My usage for July has reached 152gb but no sign of any throttling so far doh.gif





@blacktrix

If you already followed Riv's guide and it still does not work, i suggest you pm Riv for help. I'm using my own router and it works. My router doesn't even have any vlan sort of capability (not that i know anyway).





@calvin92

24/7 torrenting isn't really the issue, although i wouldn't recommend using the default dir-615 for torrents as it wouldn't last for 24/7 torrent sessions laugh.gif What matters is the monthly bandwidth for dl/ul. Right now it isn't capped, but when it is, then people will start to cry. Especially when your sharing that pie of bandwidth with other users on your network.

The reason they leave on torrent 24/7 is usually because they are seeding. If your a member of a private torrent tracker, keeping your dl/ul ratio to an acceptable level by seeding is very important. Not to say there aren't people who literally download 24/7, but seeding is usually the reason and very important need for 24/7 torrenting.

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@kuekss

I didn't see it working for me, so no.




By the way, can someone with Unifi and starcraft 2 beta, please post the latency speed to US server.

Starcraft 2 is out this month, and unfortunately is region locked. So the choices is either US or SEA versions of it.

I would rather get the US version but i don't know what latency to expect.


If the latency too high, you probably can expect to be kicked out of every game being hosted, like what happens in Warcraft 3 whenever you join a US game.



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