String get rusty ?
String get rusty ?
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Apr 27 2010, 11:42 PM, updated 16y ago
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hi , im using Ernie Ball Super Slinky , and it good i think . but it get rusty really fast . have to polish it again and again . anyway , can someone suggest me to get other string that not easily broken and rusty ? really lazy to polish after everytime i play
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Apr 27 2010, 11:51 PM
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Stick with ernie ball, but buy the titanium coated strings. I personally prefer Ernie ball slinkies over any other brand, and even if someone gives something else to me for free, i would pass.
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Apr 27 2010, 11:53 PM
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20 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: ~ In Hell ~ |
how much ? im a newbie actually.
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Apr 27 2010, 11:55 PM
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it's rm38 if u get from music master. outside i don't know.
btw what do u mean by super slinky corrode fast? Mine lasted 2 months and I play everyday. |
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Apr 28 2010, 12:01 AM
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i dont know , everytime after i play my guitar, i need to polish if i dont it will get rusty .
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Apr 28 2010, 12:37 AM
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I have a theory on this particular subject..
the level of how fast ur guitar strings to get rusty may be affected by ur guitar body itself... and also... how well ur guitar is stored..(room humidity etc... I got a cheap strat and Im using a standard guitar string... on the other hand... my fren got an Ibanez gio and using the same standard strings like Im using... But my guitar strings will not be rusty for at least 2 month.... but my friend's is quite the opposite... in two month... his guitar will be rusty to the point of unplayable... So.. I believe... the wood used for the making of the guitar may affect the level of how fast ur guitar strings may rust... just my theory la.. xtau betul ke tak... |
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Apr 28 2010, 01:19 AM
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1,362 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: k.terengganu.. alone.. with my bass...play.. alone |
ernie ball regular string easily to get rusted compare to d'addario... from my observation using them, coz im also hav prob with sweaty hand... my solution is to clean the string and apply the sewing machine oil... that would preserve the string from rusting easily
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Apr 28 2010, 01:26 AM
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check out this website...
but the price.... errrr http://guitarcollection.com.my/eshop/index...Path=22_111_113 |
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Apr 28 2010, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Apr 28 2010, 01:19 AM) ernie ball regular string easily to get rusted compare to d'addario... from my observation using them, coz im also hav prob with sweaty hand... my solution is to clean the string and apply the sewing machine oil... that would preserve the string from rusting easily i beg to differ, i find that although d addario has a nicer, aggressive tone compared to ernie ball, they rust ridiculously quick. mine only lasted for 1 week and i play everyday rotosound strings doesn't rust that quickly, it took my strings almost 1 month to lose it's brand new metallic shine. (i don't use string cleaners and those stuff btw) |
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Apr 28 2010, 11:08 AM
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Strings rust because the manufacturer needs to make money. It is that simple. I use china made strings and it have not rust for the 5 years I had the guitar. The guitar only got stolen.
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Apr 28 2010, 11:28 AM
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True, my friend's cheap Santa Cruz acoustic guitar has strings that never rust. Then it happens the G string broken, I replaced with Gibson G string. All strings still shiny but the G string rust after 1 month...
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Apr 28 2010, 12:24 PM
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elixir anti rusts? expensive though..
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Apr 28 2010, 02:45 PM
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You might wanna try Curt Mangan strings ... can last quite long and tone is superb. Btw, Ernie Ball hybrid slinky can last me 4 months but eventually it snaps.
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Apr 28 2010, 03:24 PM
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My experience, ernie ball super slinky is no no for me, bcoz within a week can rust already. About 2 years i stayed with ernie ball brand, and finally discover about d'addario.
d'addario, last longer at least for a month before, can see rust signs, and "I" strongly feel d'addario tone > ernie ball , especially when bending. And string snap quite often witn ernie ball, i can say out of 10 string snaps, 8 from ernie and 2 from d'addario. factors; 1. sweaty palm, fingers 2. how u maintain ur guitar, do you wipe ur guitar each time after play? 3. humidity (whatsupbro)?? certainly yes, try leave ur guitar in an air conditioned room, see what happens. 4. once a week i apply string cleaners 5. is rust different from dust? i think so..... 6. each time after play do you keep guitar in bag/case or leave it on guitar stand. 7. are you the only person who play the guitar?? |
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Apr 28 2010, 06:54 PM
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GHS ftw!
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Apr 29 2010, 01:16 AM
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well. I had the same story with ernie ball and didn't like D'addario much.
So I tried the elixir nano web for a while and it was really good. but the tone was not exactly what I wanted. once I went to guitar store in cheras and bought my strings there and he recommended these nexus strings. They are amazing. I'm totally in love with them. They don't rust, they sound good and the cool thing is that the top strings are black color. I suggest u to try them. its pretty nice. |
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Apr 29 2010, 02:53 PM
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I think ernie ball will show a healthy balance sheet compare with other string makers. Strings had short life span yet people still buy them.
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Apr 29 2010, 06:16 PM
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For me rusting is a secondary concern, I'm leaning more towards of how long can the string last it's "new string" tone, resonance and sustainability.
For example, I've been using d'addario .010 gauge(that one with the pale orange circle on the box) for 8 year now, my experience shows me that: 1 week: That addictive new strings sound, all sparkly, crisp and full-on sustain. =>The strings are a dream... 2 weeks: That bright new string sound diminishing a bit, the treble decrease and the tone starts to become warm; sustain is alright but noticeably decrease a bit when play solo a above the 12th fret. =>The strings somewhat feel natural as it settled on the guitar as oppose to newly installed where you can feel the twang~ness of metallic vibes... 3 weeks: Tone is very warm while brightness is moderate to minimal; sustain audibly decrease but tolerable... => The strings overall tonality feels resilient when pluck, like it's run out of steam; the resonance of the string is imbalance, meaning the strings resonate/vibrate more vigorous but the volume is decrease which usually on my guitar - fret buzzing imminent for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd strings.. 4 week: Tone is warm but starts to darken, lost of treble and brightness; sustain is about 35% less than new sets of strings. =>You notice guitar skills decrease (decreased dexterity) a bit because the strings lost that ease to pluck;when you start to pluck fast (almost at shredding speed), the tone lacks commitment meaning it's not as sharp as it use to be hence muddy a bit. When soloing, the string's tone is not as commanding. Fret buzz can be heard on the 1st and 2nd string when play... 5 week: Metallic sound almost diminish completely because the tone is too warm and dark; sustain is disappointingly shorten.. => Dunno bcoz I change already changed strings at this point. In my opinion, .009 gauge has shorter longevity than .010 gauge; but it's more brighter, twangier, agile and fun to play... I use 010. because when you pick super fast, a heavier gauge is more composed under relentless stress. (power chords, heavy & fast strumming, shredding, bending aggressively, etc.) I miss using .009 though, that lightness and gracious of touch with suits well for Fender Tele... BTW I change string MAX every4 weeks; OR 3 weeks if playing 15 hours per week |
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Apr 30 2010, 12:50 PM
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Everytime after you play just wipe. It doesn't take more than a minute. Wipe not just the top (the part facing the audience), but pinch the string and wipe also.
I use normal D'addario strings, and it can last me up to 3 months. (and I fill my guitar case with that bebola thingy) When got a lot of gigs in a row, I normally use DR Coated strings (can get from Davis S'pore). The box look like condom casing, can't miss it. |
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Apr 30 2010, 05:15 PM
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i use super slinkys, and they feel the best to me, but they break so often i'm afraid of bending my high E string too much now.
out of all these i think the main factor is still humidity. when i was in malaysia, the strings would rust in about 1 week if i didn't play them, but when i play them every 1-2 days, they wouldn't rust, i mean eventually they still do, but much slower. and of course, remember to wipe your strings and guitar with some cloth of some sort to wipe the sweat off. now i'm in nz and the air here is pretty dry. i still play my guitar almost everyday, but even if i don't touch it for 3-4 days (which i reluctantly had to do due to school work), the strings didn't rust at all. |
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Apr 30 2010, 06:36 PM
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i iz use 13 gauge string for 58 ringgit
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Apr 30 2010, 07:11 PM
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dun wan rust? stop sweating lorh
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Apr 30 2010, 11:34 PM
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im currently using elixir strings. the strings still look n feel like new after a week. the tone is just amazing. i was an ernie ball strings user.
elixir claims that their strings can last 3-5 times longer than normal strings. i dunno how true is that, guess just need to wait and see. but if u think about it, at some point, rm40 for a set of strings that can last 3 times longer is cheaper. normally a strings need to be change every month. consider all the hassle u to change the strings, 3 set of strings for rm60, its more expensive |
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May 5 2010, 06:09 AM
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happy user of ernie ball...change it around 2 month,currently testing xtra slinky .008-.038
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May 5 2010, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Apr 28 2010, 01:19 AM) ernie ball regular string easily to get rusted compare to d'addario... from my observation using them, coz im also hav prob with sweaty hand... my solution is to clean the string and apply the sewing machine oil... that would preserve the string from rusting easily machine oil? that's not good for the fingerboard and any wooden part of the guitar.my advise, d'addario + baby oil. i was an ernie user too, until like most other, i discovered it rust too quickly. now i'm with d'addario. i don't really have time to play everyday, but usually it's about 2-3hrs per session. after each session, i'll wipe the string with baby oil. now, i only need to replace my strings due to tone lost, not due to rust anymore. i can leave the guitar unplayed for 2-3months and the strings will have minimal rust. |
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May 5 2010, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 5 2010, 05:14 PM) machine oil? that's not good for the fingerboard and any wooden part of the guitar. Nice tip!my advise, d'addario + baby oil. i was an ernie user too, until like most other, i discovered it rust too quickly. now i'm with d'addario. i don't really have time to play everyday, but usually it's about 2-3hrs per session. after each session, i'll wipe the string with baby oil. now, i only need to replace my strings due to tone lost, not due to rust anymore. i can leave the guitar unplayed for 2-3months and the strings will have minimal rust. But after you applied the oil, do you re-wipe the strings with clean cloth/tissue/etc. to remove the oil? Oily neck can be a hassle... And the bold quote, are for you real?! I have to change strings every 3 weeks after 12 hours play-time weekly... Might have to steal a bottle of baby oil from my little nephew |
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May 9 2010, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ May 5 2010, 06:00 PM) Nice tip! dont use to much. just 2-3 drop on a small piece of cloth and wipe away. you just want to wipe it, not soak the strings. do this after each time you play(make it a habit) and your string will loose its tone before rusting.But after you applied the oil, do you re-wipe the strings with clean cloth/tissue/etc. to remove the oil? Oily neck can be a hassle... And the bold quote, are for you real?! I have to change strings every 3 weeks after 12 hours play-time weekly... Might have to steal a bottle of baby oil from my little nephew baby oil won't really harm the fret board, but just try not to use too much until it gets on the neck. honestly, i swore by this method to keep my strings shiny for nearly 2 years now. |
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May 12 2010, 08:46 AM
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i am extremely happy with my elixir strings. after 3 weeks using using it, it doesnt show any big rust and wear signs. still shiny, still hold the tune well and the tone is just to die for.
usually with ernie ball regular slinky, it will get rusty like crap by this time d rm40 well spent |
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May 12 2010, 09:16 AM
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@zeroglyph
this baby oil u mentioned, is it johnson&johnson oil? |
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May 13 2010, 10:16 AM
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May 13 2010, 12:13 PM
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J&J
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May 13 2010, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 13 2010, 10:16 AM) i use j&j, but i suspect most baby oil will work. if you use j&j, get the normal one, not the less-greasy or + aloe vera or such things, you're using this on metal after all. Yup, baby oil is more human friendly than those sewing machine 'Singer' oil or the good ol' WD40 |
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May 13 2010, 08:40 PM
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hhmm? y no one use fastfret on their strings ah?
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May 15 2010, 12:39 AM
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May 15 2010, 01:04 AM
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Fast fret not worth it... J&J can pow from girlfriend, sister, other girlfriends...
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