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post Oct 18 2012, 06:25 PM

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Don't worry. I know it is not from you. Just be careful
zero-lot .. I referred you an article published by Star on 26-09-2012. The title of the article is "Know Your Property". The article tries to define what exactly all these means like SuperLink, zero-lot, townhouse, villa, terrace , mansion , loft , cluster home and so on. Frankly, the author had done a very poor job. After reading, I am more confused. Here is his definition of zero-lot:
"Often referred to as a cero-lot bungalow in Malaysia, a zero-lot house is a piece of residential real estate in which the structure comes up near to the edge of the property line. Often the renovations are made to create more usable spaces"

Can you understand this ?
After visiting many zero-lot show house, then only I understand. The key phrase is 'near to the edge of the property line". A bungalow has 4 sides or edges. A zero-lot means one of the edge is so closed to the next bungalow that it may share a wall. So far , most zero-lot I have visited share the 'back-side" with the next unit. Pardon me for my crook language. You can also call it a semi-D but not linked together...All kinds of name created by developers.....
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My understanding is zero lot is a standalone detached house with 3 sides open.
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:31 AM

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You are correct to say with 3 sides open. The question is what happen to the 4th side? In most development I have seen, the 4th side is always the back of the house. They build the house all the way to the edge of the fence. There is no land at the back. I have seen one development whereby the back touches the back of the other house. The developer call it something like cluster-bungalow.
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:46 AM

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Chowder & Cheah,

Thanks for the clarification. Yeah,I think they call it cluster-bungalow. They have this kind of semi-d houses at Anggun 1. I've seen. Cheaper than the ones with land at the back. Not good bcs look congested. All 4 sides must be open if it's a bungalow and there must be land behind even tho' they share a common wall. Semi-d must have 3 sides open.

Nowadays,developers are very cleva with names. They comes up with all kinds of names. The superlink of 24x80/85 was simply "link-house",say 20-30 years ago. There are so many such big houses in Bdr Menjalara but they have never been called superlinks. The word super and the fact the built-up is bigger give them the right to charge us the sky!
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(masbruno @ Oct 18 2012, 06:06 PM)
Panorama view of Emerald Gardens, taken on 14 Oct 2012  thumbup.gif
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wao bro, build like that is not prone to flood ?
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:02 AM

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Btw,does anybody know when the road widening outside the entrance of EW will be ready? Thanks.

Also when will the flyover before the toll be ready?

My real estate agent friend told me they only expand up to in front of NSK. I was so shocked. So what's the point? Will that help the jam?

All the corruption so no money to build. I understand that the road expansion all the way from Templer's Park to Taman Tasik Puteri was approved even during Samy Vellu's time but all the money was pocketed so no road expansion.

When BCH was first opened for sale like 21/22 years ago (I think Phase 1 ds linked-houses opened for booking in 1991/2) the developer told prospective buyers about the road expansion so many people bought on that premise. My friend who bought a linked-house in Phase 1 and has been staying since 93/94 told me he's still waiting for the expansion from BCH to Rawang town LOL.

A whole generation has been brought up during that time span and have left BCH while many older folks have passed away waiting. The jam causes the property prices in BCH to go up very slowly. Do you all agree or are there other factors like crime but then in Malaysia crime is everywhere unless you stay next door to the PM.
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QUOTE(TheOwl @ Oct 19 2012, 11:02 AM)
Btw,does anybody know when the road widening outside the entrance of EW will be ready? Thanks.

Also when will the flyover before the toll be ready?

My real estate agent friend told me they only expand up to in front of NSK. I was so shocked. So what's the point? Will that help the jam?

All the corruption so no money to build. I understand that the road expansion all the way from Templer's Park to Taman Tasik Puteri was approved even during Samy Vellu's time but all the money was pocketed so no road expansion.

When BCH was first opened for sale like 21/22 years ago (I think Phase 1 ds linked-houses opened for booking in 1991/2) the developer told prospective buyers about the road expansion so many people bought on that premise. My friend who bought a linked-house in Phase 1 and has been staying since 93/94 told me he's still waiting for the expansion from BCH to Rawang town LOL.

A whole generation has been brought up during that time span and have left BCH while many older folks have passed away waiting. The jam causes the property prices in BCH to go up very slowly. Do you all agree or are there other factors like crime but then in Malaysia crime is everywhere unless you stay next door to the PM.
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yes.... tooooooooooo many thing promised and failed to deliver. that's why developer of BCH is not moving or expanding. they're stagnant or could say, no news. i moved to BCH in year 96 and there are lots of promise of road widening. but that never happen. now only they widen the road. it will takes at least 1 or 2 years to get it complete. also, there is no work been start on the Bridge (crossing PLUS Highway) widening. imagine, bottle neck on the Bridge. that's waht happen everyday now. smile.gif
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Added on October 19, 2012, 2:03 pmCan use this to voice out??

http://www.aduanrakyat.com.my/

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post Oct 19 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Summerberry @ Oct 12 2012, 07:51 PM)
Already submitted an official complaint to both web form and the manager contacts that you sent me, killed 2 birds with one stone in case the web form is not forthcoming. Fingers crossed smile.gif
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Hi Summerberry, any update or feedback towards your enquiries?

Do update us.

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post Oct 19 2012, 06:17 PM

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Jason,

You're right. I forgot about that bridge over the highway! Our property prices in Emerald West and Anggun will also be affected. No wonder the prices in EW and Anggun not going up as fast as should be. Sure there will be a bottleneck there in future if they do not expand the bridge. The only way the developers want to sell fast and at even higher prices is for Guocoland,Hong Bee,Mah Sing,BRDB,Glomac and other developers to get together to expand the bridge.

My real estate agent friend said the developer of BCH,Tanco or whatever they call themselves now is already bankrupt and cabut. He said the site office also no longer there. Last time they sold the bungalow lots at Phase 6 for a higher price bcs of the so-called 9-hole golf course. Now there's nothing there. Anybody knows what they are going to do with the empty space?

These days I don't believe a word developers say. The DPC developer is really good. If I had bought there or at DU I'd have made more than a million just from one property.
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post Oct 19 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(aero- @ Oct 19 2012, 02:07 PM)
Hi Summerberry, any update or feedback towards your enquiries?

Do update us.

cheers
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I have received their feedback. They said the design already approved by the authority. Pertaining on picture in brochure, they said not exactly what we will get, subject to change. So easy the answer, like im a primary school student.

My view is if u showed us BMW, dun give us Proton Saga. Honda still ok right?
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QUOTE(yuckz yuckz @ Oct 19 2012, 09:39 PM)
I have received their feedback. They said the design already approved by the authority.  Pertaining on picture in brochure, they said not exactly what we will get, subject to change. So easy the answer, like im a primary school student.

My view is if u showed us BMW, dun give us Proton Saga. Honda still ok right?
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COMPLETELY AGREED. So easy for them to answer the poor consumers. We are like suckers to them LOL. Such things always make me feel sick.
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QUOTE(yuckz yuckz @ Oct 19 2012, 09:39 PM)
I have received their feedback. They said the design already approved by the authority.  Pertaining on picture in brochure, they said not exactly what we will get, subject to change. So easy the answer, like im a primary school student.

My view is if u showed us BMW, dun give us Proton Saga. Honda still ok right?
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So will they change the classic window? bruce.gif
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post Oct 20 2012, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Oct 19 2012, 10:50 AM)
wao bro, build like that is not prone to flood ?
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Nope bro. The land is actually declining toward the public park (ie. the green area you see in the photo).
There will be a ~10' drop in every 2 rows of houses, from the back all the way to the entrance.
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However there will be a gurantee of flood, flood of buyers complaints, if Guocoland gives us a chikai guard house! Like the one you see in Coral..

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Oct 20 2012, 02:04 AM)
So will they change the classic window? bruce.gif
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Based on their feedback as i have mentioned, are u expecting them to change the window? I believe we should send a group petition instead individual email to them.
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post Oct 20 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(yuckz yuckz @ Oct 19 2012, 09:39 PM)
I have received their feedback. They said the design already approved by the authority.  Pertaining on picture in brochure, they said not exactly what we will get, subject to change. So easy the answer, like im a primary school student.

My view is if u showed us BMW, dun give us Proton Saga. Honda still ok right?
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I am 100% with you. This is outright deceiving. This is the most stupid and pathetic answer I have ever heard. So they are saying that they can give you a house without toilet... because everything in the brochure is subject to change.

Anyway, there are ways for you to voice unhappiness.

Make sure you keep an original brochure as proof. If you have any other publication / announcement, keep them. Gather a group of owners and send a new petition. Before this, do some home work and consult a lawyer. I am not a lawyer but I believe you have a very strong case. Guocoland has to show prove that they have indeed submitted the original design ( as per the brochure) for approval. They have show prove that the authority reject this design and that is why they have to come out with the alternate design. They have to show proof why the original design has to be changed and so on... you can demand answers ...sometime you need to play hard-ball.

If they still give you that stupid answer, then you file complaint to the housing tribunal. You need a big group of people .. the more the merrier. You can do this even after the VP. This is because there is some 5% ( if I am not mistaken) retain with the lawyer. The money can only be released to the developer after you sign the final acceptance. So if you can gather a big group of people...5% is a lot of money to the developer.

But I do hope the developer can redo the window and make it better looking. It is good for their reputation ..after all, it is loose change for them only...make RM 9 million profit last quarter 2012.

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post Oct 20 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(yuckz yuckz @ Oct 19 2012, 09:39 PM)
I have received their feedback. They said the design already approved by the authority.  Pertaining on picture in brochure, they said not exactly what we will get, subject to change. So easy the answer, like im a primary school student.

My view is if u showed us BMW, dun give us Proton Saga. Honda still ok right?
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They treat you like you are idiot lah, not primary school student. Now primary school student also very smart already.
I can hardly believe Guocoland willing to tarnish their image just because of one lousy guardhouse.
Approved by the authority? So what? Approved already cannot change anymore? Just BS lah!
Demolish it, re-submit a new design plan to authority & rebuild ah. Still need to teach how to do?
I think the top management got worms in their heads. rclxub.gif

No wonder Mah Sing is among the top ranked developer & Guocoland no whare to be seen, even they are from the big reputable Hong Leong Group.
Can Tan Sri sack these idiots who tarnish his Hong Leong group name?

I heard they are going to lauch their Jelo-Lot Bungalow soon, so I wonder who will buy into Guocoland bull story anymore.
Unless they can do better than give stupid excuse, I think I better choose M Residence lah in this case because I feel Guocoland, unlike Mah Sing, don't give a pooh about their valued customers.

So sad I have to forgo this beautiful & strategic location because of some idiots making idiotic decision for Emerald West. cry.gif

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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 20 2012, 09:09 AM)
I am 100% with you. This is outright deceiving. This is the most stupid and pathetic answer I have ever heard. So they are saying that they can give you a house without toilet... because everything in the brochure is subject to change.

Anyway, there are ways for you to voice unhappiness.

Make sure you keep an original brochure as proof. If you have any other publication / announcement, keep them. Gather a group of owners and send a new petition. Before this, do some home work and consult a lawyer. I am not a lawyer but I believe you have a very strong case.  Guocoland has to show prove that they have indeed submitted the original design ( as per the brochure) for approval. They have show prove that the authority reject this design and that is why they have to come out with the alternate design. They have to show proof why the original design has to be changed and so on... you can demand answers ...sometime you need to play hard-ball.

If they still give you that stupid answer, then you file complaint to the housing tribunal. You need a big group of people .. the more the merrier. You can do this even after the VP. This is because there is some 5% ( if I am not mistaken) retain with the lawyer. The money can only be released to the developer after you sign the final acceptance.  So if you can gather a big group of people...5% is a lot of money to the developer.

But I do hope the developer can redo the window and make it better looking.  It is good for their reputation ..after all, it is loose change for them only...make RM 9 million profit last quarter 2012.
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To them is just small change, just dont understand what make them so difficult, it is actually for their own benefit!!!

Typical irresponsible developer???

Hmmmm


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They treat you like you are idiot lah, not primary school student. Now primary school student also very smart already.
I can hardly believe Guocoland willing to tarnish their image just because of one lousy guardhouse.
Approved by the authority? So what? Approved already cannot change anymore? Just BS lah!
Demolish it, re-submit a new design plan to authority & rebuild ah. Still need to teach how to do?
I think the top management got worms in their heads.  rclxub.gif

No wonder Mah Sing is among the top ranked developer & Guocoland no whare to be seen, even they are from the big reputable Hong Leong Group.
Can Tan Sri sack these idiots who tarnish his Hong Leong group name?

I heard they are going to lauch their Jelo-Lot Bungalow soon, so I wonder who will buy into Guocoland bull story anymore.
Unless they can do better than give stupid excuse, I think I better choose M Residence lah in this case because I feel Guocoland, unlike Mah Sing, don't give a pooh about their valued customers.

So sad I have to forgo this beautiful & strategic location because of some idiots making idiotic decision for Emerald West.  cry.gif
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thumbup.gif to Mah Sing, they know who are their Revenue Generator.....????

Maybe cutting corners is the best way out, typical local practise..... rclxub.gif

Saw in the net their MD is launching a project in damansara, a high end condo...... yawn.gif

9 million return over a guard house??

Better rethink, hmm

where is resident parc.

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I think is because they rushing for finishing. Resubmission to authority takes time and they may afraid delay their handover
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post Oct 20 2012, 12:22 PM

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Oh my god......what GUOCOLAND is doing?

With reported profit of 9 million, they have moron working in there?

No wonder, cut here and there to come up with that figure....

We should get our self in there....must have great pay out??

Very simple, just get to know what and where actually went wrong....it still not to late. Correction is the ultimate answer.

What they got to LOOSE?


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post Oct 20 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(KEN007 @ Oct 19 2012, 08:34 PM)
CONGRATULATIONS > SP SETIA BHD
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SP Setia Bhd was ranked the No.1 developer in Malaysia at The Edge Malaysia Top Property Developers Awards (TPDA) 2012 for the 7th time.

Other developers that made it to the The Edge Malaysia Top Property Developers Awards (TPDA) 2012 top 10 rankings were :-

1st   > SP Setia Bhd
2nd > Sunway Bhd
3rd > Sime Darby Property Bhd
4th > IGB Corp Bhd
5th > UEM Land Holdings Bhd
6th > I&P Group Sdn Bhd
7th > Mah Sing Group Bhd
8th > Gamuda Bhd
9th > Bandar Utama City Corp Sdn Bhd
10th > IJM Land Bhd

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...venth-year.html
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Mah Sing Group Bhd is No.7! thumbup.gif

Guocoland don't know rank where doh.gif

I believe if they do well in Emerald West, they might find themself in this ranking.
They still have a chance but seems like those idiots working for Tan Sri will screw both the buyers & Tan Sri backside... rclxms.gif


Added on October 20, 2012, 12:30 pm
QUOTE(fei_singh @ Oct 20 2012, 12:19 PM)
I think is because they rushing for finishing. Resubmission to authority takes time and they may afraid delay their handover
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Then Guocoland also need to show some responsibility.
Say lah, they will promise to rebuild a new guardhouse after handover.
This reply will make buyers very-very rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
Instead of shooting down buyers complaints like shooting wild ducks!
Real stupid developer!

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