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charlieboy61
post Oct 17 2012, 05:07 PM

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Hv been looking at the projects at rawang, emerald, anggun and m residence. For the purpose of investment, which project is a better bet?
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post Oct 17 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:07 PM)
Hv been looking at the projects at rawang, emerald, anggun and m residence. For the purpose of investment, which project is a better bet?
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Me too ...
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post Oct 17 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:07 PM)
Hv been looking at the projects at rawang, emerald, anggun and m residence. For the purpose of investment, which project is a better bet?
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EW or Anggun
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post Oct 17 2012, 09:06 PM

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1. The affected house owners of Coral and Coris can gang up to file a class action suit against Guocoland for false representation. The brochure etc can be used as evidence. Check your S&P to see if they promised you G&G. I think Hong Leong is BS big time.

2. A friend of mine bought his house 10 years ago (one of the earliest phases). I think the developer is Hong Bee. He wrote to them. They never replied to his query about the title.

3. He just informed me the whole Emerald development is facing some court case. Did anyone here know about any court case? TQ
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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:07 PM)
Hv been looking at the projects at rawang, emerald, anggun and m residence. For the purpose of investment, which project is a better bet?
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I did the same consideration few months ago, checked all and shorlisted Anggun and Emerald.
Both being closed to Jusco, 100 shophouse commercial in the making, SRJKC Chinese School, future Tenby International school, private hospital next to it, 5 mins to Rawang Toll.
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QUOTE(TheOwl @ Oct 17 2012, 09:06 PM)
1. The affected house owners of Coral  and Coris can gang up to file a class action suit against Guocoland for false representation. The brochure etc can be used as evidence. Check your S&P to see if they promised you G&G. I think Hong Leong is BS big time.

2.  A friend of mine bought his house 10 years ago (one of the earliest phases). I think the developer is Hong Bee. He wrote to them. They never replied to his query about the title.

3.  He just informed me the whole Emerald development is facing some court case. Did anyone here know about any court case? TQ
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Hi Bro,
Be careful what you post. "He just informed me the whole Emerald development is facing some court case" this is a VERY SERIOUS ACCUSATION. If not true, the developer can sue you for defamation.
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:16 AM

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Actually 1 good way to check is via bursa announcements or checking thru their annual report. It's is material litigation I presume if it's true?

But I have never heard of that.
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Oct 18 2012, 08:16 AM)
Actually 1 good way to check is via bursa announcements or checking thru their annual report. It's is material litigation I presume if it's true?

But I have never heard of that.
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Yes, Annual Report is a good source. I have read their latest Annual Report 2012 (June). There is no mentioning of any pending court case.

The same report however mentioned their next plan for Emerald. See below :-

In the pipeline is the proposed replanning of Emerald which will take the township to a higher level and reaffirm its position
as a preferred residential township in Rawang. The all-new Emerald will incorporate a unique and contemporary
neighbourhood living concept, offering greater exclusivity with gated and guarded homes to cater to the discerning
homebuyers. Approvals from the relevant authorities are expected in the coming months, and we aim to launch zero-lot
bungalows, mid-rise apartments and townhouses by early next year.

Anyone fancy bungalows? Their bungalow in Amandarii Kajang starts at 1.7 M but the built-up is huge ....> 5000 sq ft.

You can read their Annual Report in their website

By the way ,I am in no way connected to Guocoland or any other developers in Rawang. I am just another potential buyer. I also did a lot of check on Hong Bee and Mah Sing. I like to have all facts before I invest my hard earn money.

If your friend can provide solid facts about the court case, then it is a different story. TQ
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 18 2012, 09:20 AM)
You can read their Annual Report in their website

By the way ,I am in no way connected to Guocoland or any other developers in Rawang. I am just another potential buyer. I also did a lot of check on Hong Bee and Mah Sing. I like to have all facts before I invest my hard earn money.

If your friend can provide solid facts about the court case, then it is a different story. TQ
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great info! and may i add substantiated as well.. rclxms.gif any pending court case has to be mentioned in their annual reports and anyway, these are big developers
not kuchi ones so if really there is a problem with litigation, this would have come up much earlier...

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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 18 2012, 09:20 AM)
Yes, Annual Report is a good source. I have read their latest Annual Report 2012 (June).  There is no mentioning of any pending court case.

The same report however mentioned their next plan for Emerald. See below :-

In the pipeline is the proposed replanning of Emerald which will take the township to a higher level and reaffirm its position
as a preferred residential township in Rawang. The all-new Emerald will incorporate a unique and contemporary
neighbourhood living concept, offering greater exclusivity with gated and guarded homes to cater to the discerning
homebuyers.  Approvals from the relevant authorities are expected in the coming months, and we aim to launch zero-lot
bungalows, mid-rise apartments and townhouses by early next year.

Anyone fancy bungalows? Their bungalow in Amandarii Kajang starts at 1.7 M but the built-up is huge ....> 5000 sq ft.

You can read their Annual Report in their website

By the way ,I am in no way connected to Guocoland or any other developers in Rawang. I am just another potential buyer. I also did a lot of check on Hong Bee and Mah Sing. I like to have all facts before I invest my hard earn money.

If your friend can provide solid facts about the court case, then it is a different story. TQ
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Seem you are quite familiar with EW project.
Is all the Emerald West project gated and guarded community?
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Oct 18 2012, 11:17 AM)
Seem you are quite familiar with EW project.
Is all the Emerald West project gated and guarded community?
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Sorry , I cannot comment on all development in EW. I only did research on EG as this is the project that interest me. (along with Anggun 2 n 3) . When EG was launched, this was splash all over the news and media --> " 24-hour guarded homes with perimeter fencing ".

Of course it is unknown how the guardhouse looks like and what sort of perimeter fencing will be provided ... This is probably the only reason that stop me from putting down payment. What if end of the day, the guardhouse is 'cheap' and fencing like 'chicken farm' type ? I am also trying to see any other people have some inside information about these. Some said the guardhouse must be at the road shoulder. Some said no fencing is allowed. Some said can have access card and some said cannot. I tried asking the SA. They were not sure either. So it is very confusing. So I have decided to step back a bit and see what they will do with Amberley. This will give me a good indication.


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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 18 2012, 02:50 PM)
Sorry , I cannot comment on all development in EW.  I only did research on EG as this is the project that interest me. (along with Anggun 2 n 3) .  When EG was launched, this was splash all over the news and media --> " 24-hour guarded homes with perimeter fencing ".

Of course it is unknown how the guardhouse looks like and what sort of perimeter fencing will be provided ... This is probably the only reason that stop me from putting down payment. What if end of the day, the guardhouse is 'cheap' and fencing like 'chicken farm' type ? I am also trying to see any other people have some inside information about these. Some said the guardhouse must be at the road shoulder. Some said no fencing is allowed. Some said can have access card and some said cannot. I tried asking the SA. They were not sure either. So it is very confusing. So I have decided to step back a bit and see what they will do with Amberley. This will give me a good indication.
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Good. Just see what they do for Coral, Amberly and Cassis. But I scare that when that time EG all sold out!

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post Oct 18 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Oct 18 2012, 02:55 PM)
Good. Just see what they do for Coral, Amberly and Cassis. But I scare that when that time EG all sold out!
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You are absolutely correct. That is my worry too.. A bit like poker game..ha ha.....But have to make decision soon.. My wife is 'nagging' me already.. To her, very simple.. just buy-lah ..ha ha.. May be I think too much..
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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 18 2012, 03:02 PM)
You are absolutely correct. That is my worry too.. A bit like poker game..ha ha.....But have to make decision soon.. My wife is 'nagging' me already.. To her, very simple.. just buy-lah ..ha ha.. May be I think too much..
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For the infa and landscaping they done recently, I believe they can do well in the EG project too!
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:13 PM

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Agreed. The landscaping is coming up very nicely. Plenty of trees...looking a bit more like DPC . Give them credit for doing that
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post Oct 18 2012, 04:30 PM

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Nice work by them rclxms.gif

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Still got what units available here ? Within 400k got not ?
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post Oct 18 2012, 05:01 PM

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Chowdersoup,

Do not misunderstand. I'm NOT the one who came up with this idea. A house-owner friend asked me. I've checked with a real estate friend who's active in the area and he said no such thing as he has not heard of anything. I do not know where this house-owner got this idea or from whom he heard it.

I also feel lega as I too am an investor at Emerald. If there's anything it affects me as well. That's why I thought I had better confirm it here with people who are so Emerald-savvy. Thanks.

By the way,what is a zero-lot bungalow? TQ
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post Oct 18 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(TheOwl @ Oct 18 2012, 05:01 PM)
Chowdersoup,

Do not misunderstand. I'm NOT the one who came up with this idea. A house-owner friend asked me. I've checked with a real estate friend who's active in the area and he said no such thing as he has not heard of anything. I do not know where this house-owner got this idea or from whom he heard it.

I also feel lega as I too am an investor at Emerald. If there's anything it affects me as well. That's why I thought I had better confirm it here with people who are so Emerald-savvy. Thanks.

By the way,what is a zero-lot bungalow? TQ
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Hi TheOwl
Don't worry. I know it is not from you. Just be careful
zero-lot .. I referred you an article published by Star on 26-09-2012. The title of the article is "Know Your Property". The article tries to define what exactly all these means like SuperLink, zero-lot, townhouse, villa, terrace , mansion , loft , cluster home and so on. Frankly, the author had done a very poor job. After reading, I am more confused. Here is his definition of zero-lot:
"Often referred to as a cero-lot bungalow in Malaysia, a zero-lot house is a piece of residential real estate in which the structure comes up near to the edge of the property line. Often the renovations are made to create more usable spaces"

Can you understand this ?
After visiting many zero-lot show house, then only I understand. The key phrase is 'near to the edge of the property line". A bungalow has 4 sides or edges. A zero-lot means one of the edge is so closed to the next bungalow that it may share a wall. So far , most zero-lot I have visited share the 'back-side" with the next unit. Pardon me for my crook language. You can also call it a semi-D but not linked together...All kinds of name created by developers.....

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Panorama view of Emerald Gardens, taken on 14 Oct 2012 thumbup.gif
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EG's high retaining wall at the north, east & south side. Together with perimeter fencing, they will provide a much needed security for EG's residents rclxms.gif
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