Hey man, I don't disagree with you on your point. Though, that article points out the truth for 'normal' cases - there are certain school of thought and studies that are generally widely accepted for those in the 'normal' population category - people without pre-existing conditions with the 'normal' structure of the human anatomy (proportionate limbs and such), you know, all that stuff. I think it's a 50 technical/50 personal thing. You can have knowledge of the best squatting technique and yet squats are bad for you if you have pre-existing conditions that do not allow you to squat without getting injured. On the other hand, you may be fit to squat and yet you can get injured from poor squatting technique.

It's good to understand some technicalities to each lift as it can help you to understand, when the need arises, how and why you've gotten yourself an injury, if any, and then remedy the problem from a technical stand point. Well, most importantly fix the injury first before you lift again. But if you've tried everything and it still doesn't work, then listen to your body and do what's best for it.

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Added on May 16, 2011, 2:04 amAh, right. Differing human anatomies might be a factor here.

This post has been edited by Vbs: May 16 2011, 02:18 AM

hey vbs
no problem man
i dont find your points wrong either
i was just saying for the one asking question to not only read but also listen to his body

Guys, a lot of differing opinions. All I can say is, read up on the correct techniques, then modify in a safe way. Listen to your body.

i hold on to your words "there's no absolution in bodybuilding" like its the First Universal Law
HAHAHAHA

@Shiloong

Take a look at how these Chinese Olympic weightlifter perform the high bar squat:



There's certainly the hip drive (upwards) going with the black shirt fella. The white shirt fella not so obvious, but can see also. Tight forms.

(link if you can't view it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jxTc2ITA8)

ps. they wear shoes with elevated heels though. they'd definitely get more stability out of the shoes. Maybe provide more hip drive as well. Gotta ask someone who has used them before to verify.

This post has been edited by Vbs: May 16 2011, 11:25 AM

ah, ive seen some guys put 2.5kg plates at the heel area when doing squats. been wondering since forever why they did that.. dont see it anymore though since the guys who squatted like that left the gym or something.

thx but its illusion only lah....


im short guy, 160cm, 60kg and 9% BF level

saved your eyes

i do a circuit for forearms. start with wrist curl (50 reps), reverse curl (10-20) and lastly i dont know the name but you hold the dumbbell at the plates area and lift it with your fingers (like gripper motion). do it 50 times. All do it straight without rest.
You'll see your forearms burn


Chow

Berat sama aku tu. Tapi badan beza gile. Wakakakaka

coz ko tinggi...


Chow

I sometimes envied my friend here:



He's 30, barely works out (once or twice every 2 weeks). But he have good genes.

yang last tu diorang panggil plate pinch
ok
kira aku boleh la letak ni time untuk change of routine aku time poasa
skarang pakai routine sempoi (huge sets (7-8), high reps (12-15), low rest time (10-15sec))
main circuit eh
thanks ah bro

Since we're on the topic of squats here, I've got something on my mind. Where is the bar meant to go for the low bar setup for back-squats? Is there a kind of sweet spot to place the bar like with front squats? Did the low bar variant today and my back felt great (ie no pain afterwards) but my rear delts got bruised up. So my question is, is my positioning of the bar wrong, or it's correct and I should just suck it up?

Bruised rear delts? That's a really odd case. I remember having sore rear delts when I first started and have no problems after awhile.

For the low bar setup, your rear delts act as a shelf when flexed - squeeze your shoulder blades back (not to the point of stressing it too much) and closer to one another, that would flex your rear delts and create an ideal spot for the bar to rest on. You should be holding onto the bar with a thumbless grip and leaning your torso forward slightly. For better stability, try bunching your traps up and keeping a closer grip ie. where the hands are placed on the bar. Keep them close, but again, not to the point of placing additional stress to them.

Not sure what went wrong as you didn't really explain where you place the bar in detail.

video or it didnt happen.

vbs, it will be great if I can see your video... how much do you weigh and your height? How much can you squat and deadlift 1RM?

Will you please comment on wide stance vs narrow stance? I personally dont do wide stance by virtue that in real world, if I'm going to squat, it will always be narrow stance (taking a bath, using "gayung, taking water from baldi"). It seems that with wider stance, you get more weight, but sacrifice on hip mobility, hence difficulty on going parallel or beyond...

But still, I do narrow squat just to mimic how I will squat in real world application (picking a pen, etc2).

This post has been edited by hoxy: May 16 2011, 10:40 PM

Ah, yeah. My bad on the lack of detail. I did more or less everything you mentioned in the post, which is why it got me wondering. It could possibly just be a case of not being used to it as I've never done low bar squats before. Thanks for the reply, mate.

Will do, man, will do. But next week. I'm probably not going to be very good at walking tomorrow, let alone do more squats.

Some progress pic.. bf definitely very high.. Gonna go for cutting soon... Has lot of stretch mark due to last time super fat T.T


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Looking good, man. Nice lats and quads.

but i have tummy T.T i working hard on cardio and abs workout... trying to get rid of the fat... very disappointed when ppl in the gym ask me to lift up my shirt and show them some abs... I was very disappointed whenever a guy ask this favour

hey man
i always wondering how you guys get the width....lats pull down?close grip pull down ?
can you share some tips on your back day?

btw your tapers is there,awesomness...how long you been training?