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post Apr 25 2010, 08:29 PM, updated 16y ago

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/scie...icle7107207.ece


Don’t talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Jonathan Leake

THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials are almost certain to exist — but that instead of seeking them out, humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact.

The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one of the world’s leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on some of the universe’s greatest mysteries.

Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre of stars or even floating in interplanetary space.

Hawking’s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved.

“To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational,” he said. “The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like.”

The answer, he suggests, is that most of it will be the equivalent of microbes or simple animals — the sort of life that has dominated Earth for most of its history.

One scene in his documentary for the Discovery Channel shows herds of two-legged herbivores browsing on an alien cliff-face where they are picked off by flying, yellow lizard-like predators. Another shows glowing fluorescent aquatic animals forming vast shoals in the oceans thought to underlie the thick ice coating Europa, one of the moons of Jupiter.

Such scenes are speculative, but Hawking uses them to lead on to a serious point: that a few life forms could be intelligent and pose a threat. Hawking believes that contact with such a species could be devastating for humanity.

He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”

He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

The completion of the documentary marks a triumph for Hawking, now 68, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease and has very limited powers of communication. The project took him and his producers three years, during which he insisted on rewriting large chunks of the script and checking the filming.

John Smithson, executive producer for Discovery, said: “He wanted to make a programme that was entertaining for a general audience as well as scientific and that’s a tough job, given the complexity of the ideas involved.”

Hawking has suggested the possibility of alien life before but his views have been clarified by a series of scientific breakthroughs, such as the discovery, since 1995, of more than 450 planets orbiting distant stars, showing that planets are a common phenomenon.

So far, all the new planets found have been far larger than Earth, but only because the telescopes used to detect them are not sensitive enough to detect Earth-sized bodies at such distances.

Another breakthrough is the discovery that life on Earth has proven able to colonise its most extreme environments. If life can survive and evolve there, scientists reason, then perhaps nowhere is out of bounds.

Hawking’s belief in aliens places him in good scientific company. In his recent Wonders of the Solar System BBC series, Professor Brian Cox backed the idea, too, suggesting Mars, Europa and Titan, a moon of Saturn, as likely places to look.

Similarly, Lord Rees, the astronomer royal, warned in a lecture earlier this year that aliens might prove to be beyond human understanding.

“I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are beyond the capacity of our brains.”

Stephen Hawking's Universe begins on the Discovery Channel on Sunday May 9 at 9pm
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:32 PM

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post Apr 25 2010, 08:36 PM

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so what is this gotta do with the title?
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:39 PM

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"The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars."

if earth have living life-form... what about others? there are billions of galaxies, there might juz be another life-form out there.. who knows? its juz plain wrong to say he is stupid... there are possibilites..
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He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

that is putting it very, very mildly.

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post Apr 25 2010, 08:43 PM

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post Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM

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why should we believe a retard?
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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM)
why should we believe a retard?
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No one ask you to believe, it's a speculation
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM)
why should we believe a retard?
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its ok mate. not everyone born with intelligence to understand this kind of information.
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:53 PM

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Actually he's right. Soon fresh from earth for alien consumption.

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post Apr 25 2010, 09:05 PM

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people once believed that the world was flat. BELIEVED. like what TS is doing now. when ppl suggest the world is actually round, start to hurl insults and say this ridiculous say that impossible.

chimpanzee mwahahahhaha
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I thought it was more like fifty-fifty - if there are intelligent beings out there, either our tech is better than theirs or theirs is.

Also, if you read sci-fi, you can find possible scenarios where aliens have advanced hyperspace technology but no nuclear weapons - so humans pwn them and take their tech and rule the universe. Heh.
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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM)
why should we believe a retard?
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At least he contributed to the scientific thought more than you ever do and which you will never able to do so.
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He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”


Gotta agree with him there...
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM

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TS, can u pls rename the title, coz it makes no f*cken sense...
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QUOTE(Klesk @ Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM)
TS, can u pls rename the title, coz it makes no f*cken sense...
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Agreed.
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:24 PM

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It makes perfect sense.


If aliens can travel here, obviously they've mastered space travel at light speed, or faster, like wormhole.


There's absolutely NO f*cking way we can avoid contact or if we do get into conflict, we can never win them.



If we do contact with aliens at their planet, observing them, assuming they're primitive, they can't do harm to us anyway on their planet, not to earthlings from here.

At most, only to the earth explorers who go there.



So Stephen Hawking makes no sense... He's not that smart.

He lacks common sense.


You people here are idolizing him, without even daring to question his wisdom, or lack of, when it comes to common sense.

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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM)
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I have gotten past the whole "are there aliens" for years...

and it has been YES, they do, for years. Never the other way round.


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post Apr 25 2010, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Apr 25 2010, 09:26 PM)
I have gotten past the whole "are there aliens" for years...

and it has been YES, they do, for years. Never the other way round.
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They might already be here long ago, and we're the product of their creation.

They want us to worship them as gods, angels, and also fallen angels.

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If they have the ability to come to earth and raid our resources, they would've done so long ago.


They're probably already among us, looking like us, and they run the world corporations/banks from proxy.



There's no fight, no way to win a civilization that mastered faster than light space travel.


Stephen Hawking lacks common sense and spiritual wisdom.

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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:24 PM)
It makes perfect sense.
If aliens can travel here, obviously they've mastered space travel at light speed, or faster, like wormhole.
There's absolutely NO f*cking way we can avoid contact or if we do get into conflict, we can never win them.
If we do contact with aliens at their planet, observing them, assuming they're primitive, they can't do harm to us anyway on their planet, not to earthlings from here.

At most, only to the earth explorers who go there.
So Stephen Hawking makes no sense... He's not that smart.

He lacks common sense.
You people here are idolizing him, without even daring to question his wisdom, or lack of, when it comes to common sense.

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But they haven't travelled here... Maybe they can, but they haven't...

Primitive in our sense, may not necessarily be the same in theirs...

And...

I'm sure your smarter than him to have thought about this...
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:30 PM)
If they have the ability to come to earth and raid our resources, they would've done so long ago.
They're probably already among us, looking like us, and they run the world corporations/banks from proxy.
There's no fight, no way to win a civilization that mastered faster than light space travel.
Stephen Hawking lacks common sense and spiritual wisdom.
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You just watched Men In Black didn't you?
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Apr 25 2010, 09:34 PM)
But they haven't travelled here... Maybe they can, but they haven't...

Primitive in our sense, may not necessarily be the same in theirs...

And...

I'm sure your smarter than him to have thought about this...
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If they have the ability to travel here, they would've been able to know the existence of our planet long ago.


If they were ill-intended then they would've raided our planet long ago.



A civilization that has mastered such technology and reached type 1 or above level on kardashev scale would've mastered how to manage resources and their emotional/spiritual development.

Stephen Hawking is bull. I don't trust or believe that guy.
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:24 PM)
It makes perfect sense.
If aliens can travel here, obviously they've mastered space travel at light speed, or faster, like wormhole.
There's absolutely NO f*cking way we can avoid contact or if we do get into conflict, we can never win them.
If we do contact with aliens at their planet, observing them, assuming they're primitive, they can't do harm to us anyway on their planet, not to earthlings from here.

At most, only to the earth explorers who go there.
So Stephen Hawking makes no sense... He's not that smart.

He lacks common sense.
You people here are idolizing him, without even daring to question his wisdom, or lack of, when it comes to common sense.
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wah, bra-ther, u verii smart!

u graduate PHD from harvard?
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:36 PM)
If they have the ability to travel here, they would've been able to know the existence of our planet long ago.
If they were ill-intended then they would've raided our planet long ago.
A civilization that has mastered such technology and reached type 1 or above level on kardashev scale would've mastered how to manage resources and their emotional/spiritual development.

Stephen Hawking is bull. I don't trust or believe that guy.
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Or, you're underestimating the size of the galaxies...

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just a speculation, we have to consider climate condition, evolution purpose and brain devolopment.

imho, humanlike intelligent lifeform is very unlikely; there will be "alien" microorganism and parasite that has evolved to withstand extreme climate, but extreme climate force the lifeform to evolve focus more their durability and strength and survival which take tolls at it's complex brain devolopment.

like now we use more of our brain with science, we will evolve into smarter lifeform in the next thousands of years, at the same time we're not using our phsycial strength because we use science to solve it, we will evolve physically weaker as well.

if that alien lives at barren land, their evolution will focus on their durability and strength for survival, their brain are rarely used to solve problem using simple science, their brain will not develop as complex as we are.
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TS just wanna tell /k/ that he is much smarter than stephen hawkings

thats all

ya'all shud believe TS
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Stephen hawking would not like for us to meet intelligent Aliens because if we did, his theories and nobel prize would have to be revoked already... hahahahaha.


These scientists reputation SORELY depends on not having anyone challenging their theories, proving them wrong and eventually prevent them from keeping their nobel prizes.


Meeting real intelligent aliens that can put a dent on their unproven theory, or meeting anyone possibly way smarter than him is way too unwelcomed in the science world where everything is hugely EGO based.

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Apparently many don't think highly of Stephen Hawking anymore.


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350479/pg1


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He may be intelligent, but he sure lacks wisdom to use a general claim, by labelling witnesses as cranks, etc.

It proves how dumb some intelligent people can be.





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fame and money
can mess with someone's ego so much to the extend that he starts to think he is the most brilliant and smartest and even "stand" on the center of the universe

too often everything beyond the theories of a scientist will be dismissed and ridiculed by the "scientist" because it is not in line with "his ideas and opinion" and will touch his authority in his field, totally forgetting that new theories and breakthrough are often only achieved with open-minded out-of-the-box thinking

seems like we are now dealing with a once-brilliant guy, who will not bring much more new breakthrough for humanity...or as a good conspiracist would say, was it Hawking himself who made up all those claimed brilliant theories?
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:24 PM)
It makes perfect sense.
If aliens can travel here, obviously they've mastered space travel at light speed, or faster, like wormhole.
There's absolutely NO f*cking way we can avoid contact or if we do get into conflict, we can never win them.
If we do contact with aliens at their planet, observing them, assuming they're primitive, they can't do harm to us anyway on their planet, not to earthlings from here.

At most, only to the earth explorers who go there.
So Stephen Hawking makes no sense... He's not that smart.

He lacks common sense.
You people here are idolizing him, without even daring to question his wisdom, or lack of, when it comes to common sense.
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if you CAN'T understand genius, DON'T make a statement that make you look stupider. derp!

many genius that people said they are crazy. but when time moves, like century from now, then they will know the truth behind it.

and who are you btw? some kind of professor in Harvard or somethin?
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:49 PM)
Apparently many don't think highly of Stephen Hawking anymore.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350479/pg1
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From what's said in the link, Hawking's kinda ignorant in one sense. And so are you.
However, I might agree a lot with you on the "lack of spiritual wisdom", depending on what you really refer to.
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:36 PM)
If they have the ability to travel here, they would've been able to know the existence of our planet long ago.
If they were ill-intended then they would've raided our planet long ago.
A civilization that has mastered such technology and reached type 1 or above level on kardashev scale would've mastered how to manage resources and their emotional/spiritual development.

Stephen Hawking is bull. I don't trust or believe that guy.
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Alien is not god like, even with high tech I don't think they can explore the whole galaxy, even we the human haven't explore the whole earth, there are quite a lot unknown low life form species living under the deep sea or amazon forest . . . so what for those [unknown low life form species] need to sent some signal to human and telling [hi human, I am here, come get me. . . ]

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 25 2010, 09:56 PM)
if you CAN'T understand genius, DON'T make a statement that make you look stupider. derp!

many genius that people said they are crazy. but when time moves, like century from now, then they will know the truth behind it.

and who are you btw? some kind of professor in Harvard or somethin?
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Wow, so no one can challenge the logic of Stephen Hawking just because he has way more PHD?

So he's always right because of his awards/phd?


Fantastic. I suppose he can go around shagging anyone's wife as well, because he cannot possibly be wrong and he deserves it because he has PHD and Nobel prizes.


Mor*n!

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he must be watching avatar one too many till obsessed
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 10:00 PM)
Wow, so no one can challenge the logic of Stephen Hawking just because he has way more PHD?

So he's always right because of his awards/phd?
Fantastic. I suppose he can go around shagging anyone's wife as well, because he cannot possibly be wrong and he deserves it because he has PHD and Nobel prizes.
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at least he'd manage to have PhD.

YOU?
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Apr 25 2010, 10:01 PM)
he must be watching avatar one too many till obsessed
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TS, can you start a hate thread on this movie too? I'll give my best in supporting ya tongue.gif
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I have more respect for Michio Kaku than that wheelchair bound overrated crank with huge ego Stephen Hawking.

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QUOTE(hakimluqman @ Apr 25 2010, 09:46 PM)
Why would we be physically weaker over the next thousand years? Look at who we are worshipping now. Handsome studs and macho sports players. If anything we'd only get dumber as people continually attach stigma to performing well in schools.

If anything human development would follow a bell curve, as we're done with the high horse stage of our sexually repressed civilization and return back to our primal desires.
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we will evolve physically weaker in thousand or million years to come if we depend on science to solve our problem because we're not doing as much physical activities as we did in the past.

just look at the apes that did not use twigs to light up fire to keep them warm in the jungle they climb trees and all that, they are physically stronger than human and they have fur to keep them warm, and those ape don't have to use 2 twigs to create fire, and they don't need much brain power to survive, and they depend more on their physical strength (climb trees to avoid predators) and durability (fur to keep them warm), therefore their brain development were not as fast as us human.

and if the aliens are living at barren place, they will evolve to have skin that withstand extreme cold or heat, and will not have enough tools for them to use their brain since ...it's barren, there will not be enough tools for brainy lifeform to survive, they will be killed by physically stronger lifeform.

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If aliens were that advanced, surely they too are looking for other planets and one way or another, we'd find each other?

Hawking is not as smart as me.
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Chinese got a word say [shàn zhě bù lái, lái zhě bù shàn 善者不來, 來者不善], I think this is what Stephen Hawkings want to tell in the article. . .
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 10:08 PM)
I have more respect for Michio Kaku than that wheelchair bound overrated crank with huge ego Stephen Hawking.
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lulz. keyboard warrior don't answer my previous question.

enjoy your hating thread brah.

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350479/pg5

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Yeah Stephen Hawking is smart.

But, so is Michio Kaku and Hawking's good friend Roger Penrose and countless other scientists. As a matter of fact the other two I just named both have won more awards then Hawking.

I think the only reason why he gets more attention is because people feel sorry for him because of his disease.

"cranks and weirdos"? I'll be sure NOT to buy anymore of his books.
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i already thought about aliens. i didnt have to be a genius to figure that out.
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QUOTE(DaiLagann @ Apr 25 2010, 10:29 PM)
i already thought about aliens. i didnt have to be a genius to figure that out.
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You're a crank and weirdo, according to Stephen Hawking and you should not argue back because you have no PHD and Nobel prize.
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Just because no alien found us yet doesn't mean they wont in the future

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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 10:08 PM)
I have more respect for Michio Kaku than that wheelchair bound overrated crank with huge ego Stephen Hawking.
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Michio Kaku is surely a genius scientist, so does Stephen Hawking. You forgot to take into account that Stephen Hawking was just presenting his own idea and opinion which might be subjected to scientific research and scrutiny.

As far as I know, by reading his thought above, he never claimed to be absolute accurate in his explanation. Why are you resorting to bash him for no good sane reason? He said, in all probability, alien might exist in outer space, probably other galaxies far far away from us, thus, their surprised visit will not be accomplished within this time period.


Remember, though his thought might be dismissed as science fiction now, it doesn't mean that it's improbable. A few hundreds years ago, if someone from 16 th century predicted about human boarding flying device to travel to other continents or space exploration, that someone will be regarded as imaginative insane man. However, it's a reality nowadays.


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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 10:00 PM)
Wow, so no one can challenge the logic of Stephen Hawking just because he has way more PHD?

So he's always right because of his awards/phd?
Fantastic. I suppose he can go around shagging anyone's wife as well, because he cannot possibly be wrong and he deserves it because he has PHD and Nobel prizes.
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Find for me from his quotation where he said he is ABSOLUTELY correct. But please bear in mind that a different weight must be assigned to his idea because he is a scientist. The only person who is qualified to refute him is another scientist. A laymen like me and you should just keep quiet then researched more on this topic.

A barber doesn't have the right to criticize the method utilized by a lecturer in his lecture, same case here.
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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Apr 25 2010, 11:13 PM)
Find for me from his quotation where he said he is ABSOLUTELY correct. But please bear in mind that a different weight must be assigned to his idea because he is a scientist. The only person who is qualified to refute him is another scientist. A laymen like me and you should just keep quiet then researched more on this topic.

A barber doesn't have the right to criticize the method utilized by a lecturer in his lecture, same case here.
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Bullshit. What he said so far has got nothing to do with actual math and physics, just mostly philosophical and unproven theories.


To say that only he can say his piece is insultingly arrogant.


He's no more mortal than anyone else around on this planet and he won't live forever.


He's going to die anyway so he's not special.

His contribution to humanity is just that, unproven theories.


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Depending on the situation, I'd say I agree with him to a certain extent.

Alien technology may be very advanced, but the galaxy is STILL very big, and information takes a while to travel the distance in light years.

Aliens, are also very likely to be hostile, and aggressive.

And we shouldn't be making ourselves more obvious, than we already are sleep.gif


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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 11:16 PM)
Bullshit. What he said so far has got nothing to do with actual math and physics, just mostly philosophical and unproven theories.
To say that only he can say his piece is insultingly arrogant.
He's no more mortal than anyone else around on this planet and he won't live forever.
He's going to die anyway so he's not special.

His contribution to humanity is just that, unproven theories.
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That's why they call it a speculation. Why do you hate him so much? It's his job to do this sort of things. What's your job?
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well he right on some point..i mean like he said million of galaxies billion of planet and stars..and there is a possiblity that alien exist...and there might be other human out there..but who noes..it not juz us tat can evolve..there might be other kinds of living being..
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 11:16 PM)
Bullshit. What he said so far has got nothing to do with actual math and physics, just mostly philosophical and unproven theories.
To say that only he can say his piece is insultingly arrogant.
He's no more mortal than anyone else around on this planet and he won't live forever.
He's going to die anyway so he's not special.

His contribution to humanity is just that, unproven theories.
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As I emphasized above, it takes a scientist to refute or debunk another scientist's hypothesis. If any Tom, d***, and Harry can comment on him, the profession of scientist will be left without any academic quality. Of course he is mortal and can die like you and me, I didn't recall if he said anything about being immortal or being god in any of his writing. Though he did imply one day human can attain immortality through cloning or DNA preservation method. I can't actually remember but something to that effect.

If you want to know Stephen Hawking's contribution, please go and ask his students. I wonder why you aimed your arrow of hatred against this scientist? Nobody disproved Einstein's theory unless he is another scientist working in the same field as him.
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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 11:16 PM)
Bullshit. What he said so far has got nothing to do with actual math and physics, just mostly philosophical and unproven theories.
To say that only he can say his piece is insultingly arrogant.
He's no more mortal than anyone else around on this planet and he won't live forever.
He's going to die anyway so he's not special.


His contribution to humanity is just that, unproven theories.
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Not yet proven tongue.gif

QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 25 2010, 11:18 PM)
Depending on the situation, I'd say I agree with him to a certain extent.

Alien technology may be very advanced, but the galaxy is STILL very big, and information takes a while to travel the distance in light years.

Aliens, are also very likely to be hostile, and aggressive.

And we shouldn't be making ourselves more obvious, than we already are sleep.gif
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Why are they likely to be hostile? If we decrepit humans supposedly have learned that war is meaningless, a supertechnological alien race would more likely have too.
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I say Religion outweighs Stephen's unproven theory.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 25 2010, 11:34 PM)
I say Religion outweighs Stephen's unproven theory.
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As far as I know, religion is unproven too. That's why it's called faith. You need zero evidence for faith.
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what is that intel thingy that he using?
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intelligent aliens probably battling against other intelligent aliens for power & dominance

no time fark stupid ppl on lowyat n earth
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stupid retard. nufsaid
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i think ts is stupid
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aliens didnt exist.

hawkings is stupid.

yes the universe is big, but he forgot TIME is also big. in a vast vast timeline of the universe, intelligent earthlings and intelligent aliens cannot exist at the same time. the probablity is too low.

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 26 2010, 04:20 AM)
aliens didnt exist.

hawkings is stupid.

yes the universe is big, but he forgot TIME is also big. in a vast vast timeline of the universe, intelligent earthlings and intelligent aliens cannot exist at the same time. the probablity is too low.
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2000 years ago, human disbelieve in the existence of germs, but now they are real. The existence of alien is highly probable.
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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Apr 25 2010, 11:45 PM)
As far as I know, religion is unproven too. That's why it's called faith. You need zero evidence for faith.
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But faith will produce evidence.
It is useful for life.
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alien is some sort of plan that the illuminati create to make NWO i tell ya....damn
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obviously you all are high school drop outs with a going-nowhere job. scientists believe what they believe so they could achieve things we have today.

yea, the dumbs dreamed of flying in thin air like birds and walking on the moon was a pipe dream. stupid fantasies. or is it?
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TS, why are you dissing Stephen Hawkings?

We are not dissing you for your stupidity.

Oops.
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the possibilities of another lifeform existed in our universe is inevitable ..i wonder why alot scientist denied it and think only us human exist...stupid ppl i say...they talak study kebarangkalian in metametik in highsch ?
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Imagine our first contact is a Zerg like alien race.
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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:53 PM)
Actually he's right. Soon fresh from earth for alien consumption.

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Apr 26 2010, 06:52 PM)
Imagine our first contact is a Zerg like alien race.
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you mean its like the movie starship troopers where all the soldier can shower together ?? drool.gif ...we are terran so no worry...
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It's a bit too late. We been broadcasting radio and TV signals for decades. One day the signal will reach and be picked up by some intelligent alien life form.
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I dont believe in Aliens until i see them with my own eyes ._.

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