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post May 10 2010, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 9 2010, 10:00 PM)
OSD is not a drain, how to cover a POND?

Look at the b'glow fence, its wire mesh not solid wall, that why i say need proper maintenance. Not here to say something bad on this project, but u guy who booked really need to consider twice on this MTP before signing the s&p, as i said there are better choice nearby and ....
your money your choice icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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better choice nearby.. do you mind to share? For examples?

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post May 14 2010, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 13 2010, 11:45 AM)
ok, i didn't read the broucher since i'm not that interested on this development.

When you assume/ trust the developer this is a G&G, did you find out from them you r getting the individual title or strata title?
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whether it is G&G strata-titled landed property or G&G individual titled landed Home...which is better is still debatable until today..
each of them has their pros and cons for

eg strata titled might need to wait for a period of time due to delays in getting the strata titles, furthermore strata-titled properties have been associated with problems such as poor maintenance and high maintenance fees in addition to the need to contribute to a sinking fund but it also has it pros and one of the main reason of this new concept of strata-titled landed property is getting popular is security and privacy for strata-titled gated and guarded landed properties is assured, as it is inaccessible to the public.

This is not the case with individual-titled landed homes, also in a gated and guarded project. In the latter, members of the public have the right to access the project grounds. In short, a gated and guarded community living concept cannot be enforced if the property is not strata titled, the fact that strata-titled landed properties ensure that the roads in the community are meant only for residents' use but again this is back to square one where all depends on the management's quality.. if you got a lousy management where the security guard is those friendly type..
whether you are staying in a G&G strata-titled landed property or G&G individual titled landed Home is still the same.. just with a angkat tangan or wave your hand concept..u can get in.. it actually happened to one of the most highly guarded and tight security base in our country..if you remember the news...

For G&G individual titled landed home, alternatively, residents, the developer and the local council could sign a mutual covenant, stating that the roads within the gated and guarded compound are for internal use by residents only and that the maintenance of the roads and other facilities in the neighbourhood are to be undertaken by the management corporation. The drawback to this, however, is that the agreement has to be renewed every one to two years.

As for G&G individual titled landed home, the quality and security of the property sole depends on the RA. it can be quite messy if the residents all are not willing to share the responsibility or not co-operative among each others and thus causing the poor maintenance of the surrounding and eventually losing the value of the GnG where has a big direct impact to the property value over there.

The whole concept of strata-titled property is about making the living environment and ambience of the neighbourhood a much better place for
residents and thus, the emphasis on landscaping, streetscaping and beautification efforts. This is usually something hard to be achieved with homes sold with individual titles [G&G individual titled landed home] but that does not mean it is totally impossible.

With G&G strata titled ,the possibility is higher as the upkeep of the strata-titled neighbourhood falls under the management of professional corporation instead of the individual owners and the local council.

Well....it is still has no clear winner until now.. i guess sometimes we gota believe in luck..

good luck folks cool2.gif

oh yal sorry i forgot to tell.. whether it is strata title or individual title .. it has nothing to do with eligibility to GnG concept..both of it still can have GnG but it is just with slight differences in rules and concepts.. come to the end.. it is still Gated and Guarded...just my two cents smile.gif

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post May 21 2010, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ May 21 2010, 01:32 AM)
My advice to you guys out these is...Please understand the characteristics of the loan package that you are going to take...

Besides that, do take into count the pros and cons of the housing project before signing the SPA...No doubt abt it, the house is nice and BIG...However, buying house is a lifelong commitment (Unless you are very rich) and careful considerations are needed...

For example, does any1 here knows how the whole project will look like when completed?I am starting to have my doubt now because there are neither detailed broucher nor model version of the whole project shown by the developer...And does any1 here approached the CORRECT people on the whole project outlay?I have tried to ask 1 same question (A straight forward question) to 4 different sales persons..and guess wht?all 4 of them give me TOTALLY different answers...FYI, this project only consist of 75 houses and some basic information were supposed to be at their fingertips...I am not suspecting any1's integrity but how can this kind of things happen?Its totally not logical unless these sales people were not trained/informed on these information...which was even more not logical...

And whether you like it or not, some critics and concerns mentined by skng03 are valid...In addition to that, there are also a few more issues which I do not 1 2 disclose...
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They still haven't distributed the brochure yet???? yet still so many ppl buy?? this is scary and a bit risky. Did you ask why the brochure yet still not out yet? they can change the layout and size anytime..better look out for the details when signing SPA..it should be mentioned clearly there... but as for the whole total project planning.. i guess they are not those big player with big township development...anyway you got a point too
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post May 22 2010, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ May 21 2010, 07:21 AM)
The only thing that is given out is the brochure for registration only..Mayb the actual brochure will be out in official launch..I am just pretty surprised tht the demand from public is so high at this prelim stage..even without knowing the actual overall concept..frankly, I also only know 1 word in regards of this project, TROPICAL..nothing more..Frm wht i saw in Vista Cheras actual brochure, it also does not mention in more detail the concept of the project..

I just felt very strange. y nowadays ppl buy house just for the sake of buying without really have the fundamental knowledge on the said project?

Worst, some do not even know what kind of loan which are offered to them n just take whatever which give a higher -BLR..sad story..
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oh yal.. brian no need to get your emotion to be saddened by those story.. it happens everyday.. anyway it is other ppl money.. most important do you want to help other ppl to avoid from the same mistake? share your point here then it is helpful..

anyway.. beside desa budiman.. i think sg.long is attracting a lot of developer..

there are already few developers planning to develop new project in near future..when exactly not sure.. for eg. Malton is planning to develop an exclusive high end project there.. and I heard Sunway is also going in...

Tesco? I remain silent for this... but i think there is a possibility...


Added on May 24, 2010, 1:35 amtoday..first time for me personally go to the area of the said development..
area is a bit deep inside...
access is a bit not so nice... but they have 2 access...
one thing i notice is the surrounding still with a lot of untouched nature.. as what is their selling themes as per mentioned on the first page of their brochure..
Living Art in a Tropical Sanctuary.. well we shall see what they mean by `Tropical Sanctuary` in few years time...
Landscape of surrounding not bad... but still got a lot of empty land.. not sure who own those land and what will happen on those land beside...
if suddenly they build a low cost aprtment beside.. then that its.. the end of sanctuary hahaha..

since there are still got a lot of untouched land. it seems that area will be going a huge development.. means another few years of dust and noise and blasting!
based on some resources...surrounding is developing of semi-D and bungalow lots by Pujangga and other few more developers which i cant disclose here...

very Low dense only 75 units with GnG with more than 2500 BU, concealed drains n underground utility.. nice design and nice layout...
developer is well known of always VP earlier than schedule...

well.. show unit looks impressive.

my verdict.... hmm ask yourself this question.. where to get this kind of house nearby that area with $480k..?? if there is please let us know...
prediction of price yield is at conservative min 8% per annum.. no need to argue.. just my prediction based on my experience..
shall see back this forum in another 2 years time..

good luck! smile.gif

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post May 30 2010, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 29 2010, 12:11 AM)
don't know about taming, but wira heights & Admiral park @ sg long ada tongue.gif
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Since DB is not strata titled...DMC is not needed... or else there will be sinking funds and maintenance fees to be charged by developer.
DB community can form their management after 1 year and then the agreement of all tenants can be developed from there....
In my view individual titled is better than strata titled property.. do you have strata titled property?

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post May 31 2010, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 30 2010, 09:30 PM)
Wira Heights also with individual title issued, still they got DMC.

how to claimed the development is G&G if without DMC??
if the occupancy rate is low after 1 year, do u think the owners will still pay for the fees without any contract/ agreement? it'll eventually become normal link house development with "pondok sekurity"  just like those DSL in BMC.
higher maintenance fees is not much a concern for house buyer who can afford paying 4-500k for DSL, but GOOD security & environment is. tongue.gif
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hi i think you understand me wrong..

for strata titled land.. DMC is compulsory as for individual titled land.. DMC is not needed but it can be optional.
G&G not necessary need to be DMC. It is not a cumpulsory for G&G to have DMC then only can can claim to be G&G.
Whether the occupancy is high or low it has nothing to do whether to have a contract or no contract. They still able to form an RA and to engage a management company to maintain that area. The difference is the cost for it would be higher since it is shared by smaller community. Usually who to engage for the management of the area depends on the outcome of the RA meeting. Tenants still able to continue the service provided by management that engaged by the developer if they think the company is doing their job well and the cost is reasonable. During that time, new contract will be formed but if there is any dispute over the cost charge, tenants have the right to change or engage any other better management company where the latter case usually refer to strata titled property.


Added on May 31, 2010, 1:40 am
QUOTE(skng03 @ May 31 2010, 01:09 AM)
i'm just telling the facts, unlike some one keep on promoting/ hard sell here shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

i tot forum are mean for sharing regardless of -ve / +ve.
yes i'm -ve on sg long after living here for > than 10 years, the infra here never upgrade, the only road here already reach its limits. Can' imaging how it coupe with so many new development, esp your DB is deep inside sg long.

for the utar, does its anyway related to this thread?? alto. they bot. the building, i haven't see any increase on no. of student here and this will not have any effect/ benefit to DB too.

since when i "comment" on police hmm.gif  wink.gif
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Facts need to come with data and support of evidence and it is proven but opinions need not.
so yours is whether opinion or fact ... forumers able to judge on it.

Living there for more than 10 years is a fact but that doesn't mean that you able to tell the future but ofcoz you can predict it based on your 10 years tenant there.
Past 10 years never upgrade doesn't mean it will never upgrade forever. Whether the road here already reach limit .. nobody can judge because things change everyday.. I dont dare to make conclusion it had reached the limit. How the new development in Sg.Long will change..y not just lets sit back and see it together..if it ever change..


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post May 31 2010, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 31 2010, 01:50 AM)
as i mention on previous post, cost is not a big issue on this "premium" DSL.

yes resident can form RA but RA can't force every owner to paid without any agreement aka. DMC. To be fair to every purchaser, why not the developer made it easier for RA by doing it from day one, not throwing it to RA after 1 year.
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it is the same.. for individual titled property.. purchasers are not compulsory to sign any DMC and they still has the right not to pay anything and management still cannot force everyone to pay.
Flexibility...democracy...after 1 year all tenants has the right to choose their preference and exercise their right.

I would not like to discuss the pros and cons of individual titled landed Vs strata titled landed in this thread because there is already a thread for this.
Each piece of development is unique and can't be compared directly regardless whether it is individual or strata.

This thread is merely for the future purchasers or potential investor to share their concerns, opinion and wish list for their future home. This thread is the platform of communication between all the tenants.

I believe there are still a lot of property out there other than this which can meet your requirements because it seems like you are attracted to strata titled landed property or property with DMC binded agreement ... and the fact that DB is already not..
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post Aug 14 2010, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(william69 @ Aug 13 2010, 06:36 PM)
BSL5 is ready for launching. Min 611k Max 1.23 mil with free MOT, Legal fees (I guess already embeded into the price).  Much higher that DB altho location wise might be better. Perhaps should get a unit in DB instead.  hmm.gif
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smile.gif expected BSL5 price wont be low... 611k is almost 25% premium of the DB price... for slight higher BU...
if only DB still available now...
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any idea the unit price of the SD by tanming on the opposite land across DB? heard that already open for registration..
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post Aug 15 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(william69 @ Aug 14 2010, 11:34 PM)
No sure about this SD launch. I thot Tanming future projects are more on Bungalow.
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oh ya bungalow l...it is called the pearls @ taming mutiara
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post Aug 19 2010, 11:43 PM

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Finally the much awaited BSL5 is here... if you check the price..you will be surprised!

http://www.kihuatproperties.com/development_current.html

BU From 2853 sqft
Price 611k - 127M

with this it makes DB such a good deal... notworthy.gif




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post Aug 20 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(raul @ Aug 20 2010, 01:51 PM)
tokyo kor, what's ur new target after the zest and villa pavillion?
perhaps anything in sg long or mahkota attract u?
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new targets...has directly linked to the pricing..which yet to be announced.. smile.gif
look around this forum u can get some info..
The Z ..kinda interesting here if pricing is doable... hmm.gif
sg.long or mahkota??? still got a long way to go for this area...another 5 years perhaps
for vest... not this area at this moment.. but if u looking for own stay ...you can consider but at this moment i guess for paying over 600k for Dbl stry..
i reckon it is over priced...another 1 - 2 years..maybe this pricing is possible but generally does not apply to the old house there..
i wont say all project in this area is value buy... it really depends on the concept offered, quality of built, and other attractive pulling factors which the developer can think ..
btw did u get yourself one DB? or maybe 2 drool.gif

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post Aug 21 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(raul @ Aug 21 2010, 12:45 PM)
i missed the boat of TZ, as well as C180(thinking too much, while my fren bbb 3units)
now waiting for the Z and Sanderson...   wink.gif
only got one for myself for DB4...

imo, 600k for double storey in south cheras area, way overpriced too. this tag should apply for a standard 2.5 or 3stry.
heard that a chinese primary school will be built just beside the garden park condo?
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Yup bro.. when i mentioned the z means tt new project z residence..sorry for confusing u...
For sanderson need to see the price whether justifying the access problem.. sometime thinking too much is not a bad thing. Rather than making a wrong decision... for c180 i got no confidence to go in with all the gathered info i had...although the price was attractive...but i still cant find any facts to support studio unit is doable at that area...so i decided to let it go for this time..
I hope db is for ur own stay......just wait n c when the new bangalow by taming mutiara is completed in front of db...u ll b more surprise...

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post Sep 27 2010, 10:49 PM

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Recently there was a launch at BMC near Juso by the Lion Group
called Cassia Terraces.
DSL 20x65 1942BU @ 427k smile.gif 220psf only nia.. drool.gif


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post Sep 28 2010, 12:27 AM

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Added on September 27, 2010, 11:41 pm

taikor, u plan to get one? hmm.gif
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No lar.. i think banks dont want to dump anymore money to me anymore... smile.gif
had done my last transaction for this year at SA... will fold my arm and wait till next year smile.gif
even if they dump i wont go in sg long or BMC area for investment.. tongue.gif
if your pocket is still deep enough.. look at SA, Bukit Jelutong, Sg Buloh and Sri Damansara(nearby damansara perdana area)

lucky u got yourself of DB instead of BSL5 hehehe.. or else u need to fork out another 150k hahaha
your DB is in term of psf is < 200psf means lower than Cassia Terraces nod.gif

i hope u didnt get yourself Sanderson tongue.gif that one is a doh.gif

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post Oct 23 2010, 05:18 PM

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Hi folks...
I think i mentioned last time..there will be exclusive development near by this area..
for those who miss the boat ..can choose to jump on this bigger boat smile.gif
this area is always a choice of sanctuary for Bungalow and SMD due to the surrounding environment near to green..

here you go folks

The Pearls @ Taming Mutiara 2, Sungai Long

•Land Tenure : Freehold
• Land Size : 78' x 90' (From 7,020 sq.ft.)
• Built Up Area : 6,883 - 7,019 sq. ft.
• Total Bungalows : 77

Special Features:-

•Low Density with only 3.8 units per acre
•7 Spacious Bedrooms with En-Suite Bathroom
(A Large Room of 650 sq. ft. can be used for Home Theater / Gymnasium / Dance Hall)
•Another Room of 363 sq. ft. for Children Playroom / AV / Computer / Library
•A Large Family Hall of 375 sq. ft. at the First Floor
•A Powder Room
•Large Car Porch for 7 Cars with 4 Covered
•Perimeter Fencing with 24-Hours Guarded Security
•Landscaped 50 feet Meandering Road
•Landscaped Garden of 1.5 acres
•Alarm System
•Solar Heater System
•3 Phase Power Supply
•Concealed Underground Cables & Covered Drainage

Master Layout
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Akoya Pearl
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South Sea Pearl
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Tahitian Pearl
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This info is only for reference and not liable for any inaccuracy or change of information from time to time. For further details please contact directly to the developer.


Added on October 23, 2010, 6:50 pmLocation wise..

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If you see in details.. there will be Taming Mutiara 3 behind DB... DB is surrounded by high end enclave ....
and there is one proposed Chinese School..


Added on October 23, 2010, 9:51 pm
QUOTE(purplecane @ Oct 21 2010, 12:17 PM)
I really like kihuatproperties because their workmanship is very very good!
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Are you talking about their show units or actual units?

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post Oct 26 2010, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(JockMatGuy @ Oct 25 2010, 05:19 PM)
If you see in details.. there will be Taming Mutiara 3 behind DB... DB is surrounded by high end enclave ....
and there is one proposed Chinese School..
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I remembered the DB sales guy told me that behind DB4 will be townhouse, developed by PB. and the other side should be semiD by PB as well ... hhmmm...
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SMD n bungalow is definite. Not sure about the townhouse. Looking at current situation PB might change their plan. I doubt they will do townhouse at this area. Before maybe but now I doubt so. If they play their card well next phase SMD is more likely if they have a strong analyst team.

By the way The pearl currently is pending for a.p . Expected will be launched in year end. Expecting price to be > 2.5 m. What us your take at this area? You read yourself .


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QUOTE(samanthackl @ Oct 30 2010, 11:27 PM)
my friend bought two units SMD in taming mutiara, according to him the pearl are asking for >4m, for those who's taming mutiara's purchaser, will get 25% discount from yhe selling price...
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Hi Sam, standard unit (minimum land size 7,020 sq ft with minimum built up area of 6,883 sq ft) starts from RM3.8m.
Project layout already approved. The freehold individual titles were already issued and will NOT be charged to any financial institution notworthy.gif
Expecting AP in Dec.
Got early bird discount. smile.gif


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post May 17 2012, 02:48 PM

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It is almost 2 years from the day I started the thread...
DB4 turned out to be far more exciting than I had anticipated..

With many unexpected news which comes a long like demolishing of toll and building of school nearby..
somehow it added some spices to it... not to mention the latest add on of the new Honda 3S centre

Noticeable now surrounding DB, new development and construction has been going on massively actively ...

The almost completed The Pearl is nice and the busy construction of Palm Walk 2/3 with hefty pricing is pushing the landed price further more

my humble mind telling me there is no perfect home but there is always an ideal home for everyone
and everyone has their own definition of Ideal when searching for their home depending on what are they looking for and based on own financial status..

Nevertheless, congrats to all the DB4 purchasers of the successfully Vacant Possession and knowing few units transacted at 6X0k before VPed congrats on the excellent gain too. In fact imho i think DB4 is one of the good small boutique non-trueblue GnG linked house at Sungai Long Cheras and a good product itself too.

From now if possible would appreaciate if owners able to share the quality and service delivered by Pujangga after VPed here so for future buyers to know more before buying from them in the future...

Thanks! smile.gif
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post May 27 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(raul @ May 24 2012, 08:31 PM)
TB, now i found that DB4 facade looks so similar to Jadehill phase3a!
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Yes. I do agree.
Wait till you see Sinaran @ Suria Residen.



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post Apr 28 2014, 10:11 AM

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After VPed so long... still got demands????? biggrin.gif

surprise me not! notworthy.gif

someone here used to tell me DB4 465k...way way too crazy for this area!!! LOL rolleyes.gif

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