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post Apr 24 2010, 01:35 PM


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just couple of hours ago RUSSIA GOVERNMENT confirmed to invest RM16 BILLION to build jet fighers in Malaysia!!! wohooo!!!

MALAYSIA WILL BUILD SUKHOI JET FIGHTER in PERAK!
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A Russian aircraft maker has decided to build a five billion dollar research facility for the defense and aerospace industries of Malaysia. (in Perak)

Malaysia's Defense Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi says the facility would be built by aircraft maker Irkut.

He added that the Russian company would help design and manufacture components critical to the maintenance of services on which the industries in the plant depend.

"In total, Irkut has entered into 28 memoranda of agreement with various local parties to produce locally, under license, an array of parts and components not only for the Malaysian market but also for global requirements," The New Straits Times quoted Zahid as saying on Friday.

The report added that the facility would be built in a technology park in the northern state of Perak.

A spokesman for the minister also confirmed the news.

Defence Minister of Malaysia Dato ‘Seri Zahid Hamidi flew on the Russian multi-purpose fighter Su-30MKM, said Monday Vice President of Marketing and External Relations Corporation Irkut Vladimir South.

«This is a momentous event in the issue of possible new deliveries of these aircraft to Malaysian Air Force. Dato ‘Seri Zahid Hamidi general became the first Minister of Defence, to fly on this plane, from all the countries of South-East Asia, procuring fighter family “Su”, – quotes RIA Novosti Sautova.

According to him, IRKUT “will participate in the new tender of Malaysia on the possible purchase of additional batch of combat aircraft.

« As expected, the competition will be announced in the May-June 2010 . We will certainly participate. Now Malaysia is considering the purchase of one to two squadrons of fighters. If a decision is taken, we can count on sales of 18 units of Su-30MKM “, – concluded Vladimir South.

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Irkut produces Su-27 and Su-30 fighters and amphibious planes in the "Be" family. The company includes the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, Beriev Aircraft Company, Yakovlev Design Bureau, BETA AIR. The company plans to begin flight testing its Yak-130 trainer aircraft in 2009. It is also working on the design and series production of the MS-21 passenger jet.  The company employs over 14,000 people


the very famous SUKHOI cobra move!
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proposed SUKHOI jet fighter that will be build in Malaysia : SUKHOI SU35 families!



Malaysia akan buat Jet Pejuang SUKHOI di Perak..

KEHEBATAN JET-JET PEJUANG di DUNIA ni.. dalam video ni aku gabungkan antara semua gerakan2 dahsyat jet pejuang di dunia ni!


Kerajaan Russia melalui syarikat Irkut telah sahkan laburkan RM16 BILLION untuk pembangunan jet-jet SUKHOI di Perak darul Ridzuan! wohooo.. gila betul impian aku jadi kenyataan nak lihat jet-jet pejuang buat aksi gerakan Pugachev Cobra dan gerakan Kulbit! harap2 Malaysia dapat pertukaran teknologi lebih mendalam dengan Russia yang amat hebat dalam teknologi jet pejuang yang terbang macam burung betul tu!

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defense and aerospace industries of Malaysia


isn't malaysia in peace now ?
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the fighter will for m'sia market only.. is it?
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malaysia will be the first to build jet fighter that can fly backwards..
literally like a reverse gear..
first in the world.. laugh.gif
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RM16 juta?..bukan RM16 billion ka?
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another way of money waste....as if malaysia goona win in any war...
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QUOTE(kazama82 @ Apr 24 2010, 02:41 PM)
RM16 juta?..bukan RM16 billion ka?
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16 juta
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kilang tin milo also more than that lol
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QUOTE(kazama82 @ Apr 24 2010, 01:41 PM)
RM16 juta?..bukan RM16 billion ka?
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16 billion quoted price..
but actual price is 16 million..
the balance enter BN's pocket..for commission
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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Apr 24 2010, 01:38 PM)
the fighter will for m'sia market only.. is it?
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Russian said it will be for global market.. the Malaysia F1 project will build own advance wind tunnel system in Sepang, Selang
I think the technology and experience will be shared between F1 research center in Sepang and proposed jet fighter/aeroplane research center in Perak which fully supported by Irkut and Russia government.. both project have links with CTRM (Malaysia government fully supported corporation for aeroplane research)


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Cayalah Malaysia

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Buat kat Perak pulak tu....
hopefully one day that I will see a Sukhoi doing Cobra Maneuver from my house
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 24 2010, 02:09 PM)
Kan Malaysia tak berperang sekarang......
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damn u are missing the point
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QUOTE(firedemon @ Apr 24 2010, 01:42 PM)
another way of money waste....as if malaysia goona win in any war...
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We don't need to fight a war. Since Russia has a defence factory here in Malaysia it would be their priorority to protect its own technology.

So basically going war is not as easy as you think. Unless that factory is expandable. Then, no comment.
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QUOTE(firedemon @ Apr 24 2010, 01:42 PM)
another way of money waste....as if malaysia goona win in any war...
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wat u on about? this is an investment into the country, i.e injecting money into our economy, creating jobs etc
btw itd be interesting to see the security level fencing the factory itself hoho
guess that explains why its in Perak, in middle of nowhere, a state foreigners have never heard off tongue.gif

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can get cheaper sukhoi like dat....fuuuuuuuuuuu.....
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Defence industry will be expected to provide a boost in economic growth expected in 2010-2011.
This is one of the major investment injected through DSA 2010 recently.

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what is the purpose of the cobra move?
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it makes chasing aircraft overshoot you and you'll be right behind them...
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QUOTE(Kerajaan Russia labur RM16.5 BILLION untuk projek jet pejuang malaysia!)
Russians invest RM16.5 BILLION in Malaysia aerospace hub

2010/04/23

By Adrian David

KUALA LUMPUR: Russia's Irkut Corporation has pledged an investment to the tune of US$5 billion (RM16.5 billion) to establish a full-fledged and diversified original equipment manufacturing (OEM) facility in Sungkai, Perak, soon.

Sungkai is slated to be established as the Malaysian Defence Security Technology Park by year's end.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the facility would encompass research and development; design; manufacture of components and parts; and maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) services for the defence and aerospace industries.

"In total, Irkut has entered into 28 memoranda of agreement with various local parties to produce locally, under licence, an array of parts and components not only for the Malaysian market but also for global requirements."

Zahid said the three main areas of cooperation, through smart partnerships and transfer of technology, were:

- the supply of OEM spares for their principal manufacturers through the MRO;

- weaponry system assembly plants; and,

- the supply of components for the aerospace industries involved in the manufacture of Sukhoi and MiG fighter jets and the Yakolev transport aeroplane.

"Irkut's participation will be a tremendous boost for the local defence, security and aerospace market and help spur the growth of the industries here," he said yesterday at the close of the Defence Services Asia 2010 exhibition at the Putra World Trade Centre.

Irkut is one of Russia's foremost industries, famed for the Sukhoi Su-30 multi-role combat aircraft, and is the prime contractor for the Indian Air Force's Su-30MKI fighters.

Irkut also manufactures the Beriev Be-200 multipurpose amphibious planes, Yakolev Yak-130 combat training aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, components for Airbus passenger airliners and the MC-21 passenger airliner.

With Irkut's investment plans, Zahid said the total value of deals inked at DSA 2010 would exceed RM25 billion, following the RM10.355 billion signings announced on Tuesday.

Zahid commended foreign partners for providing a sustainable platform for defence and security technology manufacturers and vendors to meet face-to-face with their potential customers.

This, he said, allowed them to discuss the various options available to match their inividual nations' upgrading and modernisation programmes.

"On our part, I wish to reiterate the government's commitment towards enhancing the industry. We will ensure the delivery of technology on a timely and orderly basis."


source : http://www.nst.com.my/articles/14dsa/Article/index_html

QUOTE(Dr Mahathir kata Malaysia nak bom singapura guna jet pejuang Russia)
I want to tell you, we had wanted to buy Russian MiGs (fighter planes). You know Russians, they are very inferior. Somehow or other, it was wangled without my knowledge, that part of the money (only to be used to purchase MiGs was also used) to buy (the American made) F-18 (planes). The very good American aircraft costs twice as much as the MiGs. And then, we acquired eight F-18s and 18 MiGs. MiGs are sold to us without any condition. If we feel like bombing Singapore, for example, the Russians are not going to object. Any Singaporeans here? Or ex-Singaporeans?... LULZ

But this great aircraft called F-18 which we bought from America, after buying it, after several months, I got to know that these aircraft cannot be used for any attacks against any country even if it is not Singapore, because the Americans sold the aircraft, but the source code is kept by them. So you cannot plan anything, you cannot fly them to carry out any bombing attacks against anybody but you have this wonderful aircraft which you can see at Lima (the Langkawi International Maritime and Aviation Exhibition). So, we spent this huge sum of money and they actually negotiated and agreed to these terms.


its video Dr M wanna bomb singapore using Russian jet fighter is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSjgOcFdI9Y

mesti ada orang dah cuak giler nih! sekarang Russia betul2 nak suntik teknologi diaorang ke dalam industri jet perang Malaysia.. RM 16.5 BILLION tu
kadang2 aku tak tahan gak nak gelak Dr M asyik mencamdek kiasukat selatan je kerjanya... hahaha laugh.gif
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lol h3ck

dia buat parts je la

bukan buat whole plane

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- the supply of OEM spares for their principal manufacturers through the MRO;

- weaponry system assembly plants; and,

- the supply of components for the aerospace industries involved in the manufacture of Sukhoi and MiG fighter jets and the Yakolev transport aeroplane.


kau ni suka sangat sensasikan cerita
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QUOTE(firedemon @ Apr 24 2010, 01:42 PM)
another way of money waste....as if malaysia goona win in any war...
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komunis spotted. die traitor


Added on April 24, 2010, 3:59 pmbtw

since BN take over Perak i see good things for perak. awesome investment and stability in the state

syabas Barisan for showing the newbies how to really govern a state properly. in the other states the economy is in abject shambles and the MP jumping ship to join the light side

good that they finally see the wonderful things najib has done since his primiereship. we are lucky that we have someone as genius and far sighted as najib. he is just like his dad. the new bapa permodenan.

i dunno why people still want to bash such a gift from god like him.

the only reason i see why people hated Dear Leader Najib is because he is SUCH A PERFECT HUMAN. unlike the other leader with the fake back problem

i will sacrifice a goat at the temple tonight for continued lengevity of dear najib

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hail Mother Russia! Hail Malaysia! yearghhhhhh!!!!

still got SOBs who says this waste money. WASTE MONEY MY AS*. everything waste money susah la.
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QUOTE(obefiend @ Apr 24 2010, 03:56 PM)
komunis spotted. die traitor


Added on April 24, 2010, 3:59 pmbtw

since BN take over Perak i see good things for perak. awesome investment and stability in the state

syabas Barisan for showing the newbies how to really govern a state properly. in the other states the economy is in abject shambles and the MP jumping ship to join the light side

good that they finally see the wonderful things najib has done since his primiereship. we are lucky that we have someone as genius and far sighted as  najib. he is just like his dad. the new bapa permodenan.

i dunno why people still want to bash such a gift from god like him.

the only reason i see why people hated Dear Leader Najib is because he is SUCH A PERFECT HUMAN. unlike the other leader with the fake back problem

i will sacrifice a goat at the temple tonight for continued lengevity of dear najib
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make that a goat and a duck ya
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waa....now ada local assembly for jet fighter...
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QUOTE(obefiend @ Apr 24 2010, 03:56 PM)
komunis spotted. die traitor


Added on April 24, 2010, 3:59 pmbtw

since BN take over Perak i see good things for perak. awesome investment and stability in the state

syabas Barisan for showing the newbies how to really govern a state properly. in the other states the economy is in abject shambles and the MP jumping ship to join the light side

good that they finally see the wonderful things najib has done since his primiereship. we are lucky that we have someone as genius and far sighted as  najib. he is just like his dad. the new bapa permodenan.

i dunno why people still want to bash such a gift from god like him.

the only reason i see why people hated Dear Leader Najib is because he is SUCH A PERFECT HUMAN. unlike the other leader with the fake back problem

i will sacrifice a goat at the temple tonight for continued lengevity of dear najib
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haha, 16 billion sure wasted by Russian
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whether no engine,

or after completion, then need to go into warranty
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QUOTE(obefiend @ Apr 24 2010, 03:56 PM)
komunis spotted. die traitor


Added on April 24, 2010, 3:59 pmbtw

since BN take over Perak i see good things for perak. awesome investment and stability in the state

syabas Barisan for showing the newbies how to really govern a state properly. in the other states the economy is in abject shambles and the MP jumping ship to join the light side

good that they finally see the wonderful things najib has done since his primiereship. we are lucky that we have someone as genius and far sighted as  najib. he is just like his dad. the new bapa permodenan.

i dunno why people still want to bash such a gift from god like him.

the only reason i see why people hated Dear Leader Najib is because he is SUCH A PERFECT HUMAN. unlike the other leader with the fake back problem

i will sacrifice a goat at the temple tonight for continued lengevity of dear najib
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lol.. such a perfect human?? rclxub.gif

bombing singapore with russian airplane?? LULZ laugh.gif


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Another 80% of the money will go in pocket so the left see what can they do ...
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QUOTE(thken @ Apr 24 2010, 04:47 PM)
haha, 16 billion sure wasted by Russian
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wow ..i never thought that Sukhoi could do those marvellous maneuver


but i never agreed of what BN had done to Perak .

enuff said
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Can fight with indonesia military liao.. now c who action.. they got own jet fighter factory or not brows.gif

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stop pointing your finger to each other...
the things is both party BN or PR are the same...
everything's corruption frankly speaking.
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stop pointing your finger to each other...
the things is both party BN or PR are the same...
everything's corruption frankly speaking.
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the only difference is PR and their supporters are hypocrite

close 1 eye on their own doing but keep scold others
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wow ..i never thought that Sukhoi could do those marvellous maneuver
but i never agreed of what BN had done to Perak .

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the awesome KULBIT move .. no other jet in this world can perform this maneuver except SUKHOI jet fighters from Russia!!!

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ok, prepare your panic room bunker all
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awesome RUSSIAN jet fighters super maneuvers especially the Cobra move and Kulbit move!


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hack3line. apa advantage move2 special sukhoi nie? dogfig
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OMAI !!!

this is like dream come true.. i am a very big fan of SUKHOI jet fighters! notworthy.gif

when first i saw SUKHOI jet fighters fly and make the very low pass perform the Cobra (ular tedung selar) and also Kulbit 2-3 times maneuver just above my head in LIMA Langkawi event, before Malaysia decided to bought the SUKHOI SU30MKM (the very special version of SUKHOI which have not even a single Israeli avionics system)..

i pray to god "Please God, make the Russian make this awesome jet fighter in Malaysia and share its awesome technology with us".. and now Russian signed agreement to invest RM16.5 BILLION in Malaysia Aeroplane Research Center in Perak.. omai omai omai!!

projek sebelum ni kaji teknologi baru enjin jet bersama negara Jerman


kita jua ada orang, jurutera di Rolls Royce, Britain... dia la yang mula2 kata Malaysia akan berjaya buat jet pejuang sendiri.. dia siap p kumpul orang lagi di England untuk mulakan projek ni..

kalau kita berjaya gabungkan teknologi jet pejuang dari Russia (terutama SUKHOI yang gerakan dia amat hebat) + Jerman (negara Jerman yang pertama buat roket, USA pun upah diaorang untuk projek pertama roket diaorang) + Britain (negara pertama yang ubah daripada sistem kipas ke sistem thrust vectoring yang berapi tu).. + TUDM pun dah banyak pakai jet pejuang buatan Amerika (yang amat hebat sistem elekronik dan komputer dia).. kalau dapat belajar semua dan gabungkan teknologi semua ni jadikan jet perang Malaysia memang best sungguh!

kalau boleh ajak negara sahabat, negara jepun yang amat hebat dalam kecerdikan buatan (Artificial Intelligence), sekarang tengah gila nak buat jet pejuang projek ShinShin tu masuk sekali brows.gif
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lets look and see. if it have bright future then buy stock market of it.
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obefiend is being sarcastic for teh lulz?
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QUOTE(abang @ Apr 24 2010, 07:11 PM)
hack3line. apa advantage move2 special sukhoi nie? dogfig
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ya dogfight! dan kalau bernasib baik boleh tipu sistem elektronik peluru berpandu yang berdasarkan pengesanan haba tu

jet-jet sukhoi ni dia boleh bawa laju sungguh pastu tiba2 je dia brek pusing belakang.. gerakan Kulbit, diaorang je yang boleh buat, jet2 pejuang lain di dunia ni satu pun tak boleh buat camtu.

projek PAK FA (sukhoi) juga, dikatakan sistem halimunan dia setanding atau lebih hebat dari F22..
ni signal kuat Malaysia akan dapat PAK FA, pesawat pejuang generasi kelima juga ni.

dulu pernah keluar dalam surat khabar Israel, perisikan Israel kata bahawa Russia nak jual 250 jet pejuang SUKHOI kepada Iran yang sama versi dengan Malaysia punya SUKHOI SU30MKM untuk serang Israel.. mungkin Iran betul2 nak beli tapi Russia tak cukup kilang nak tampung permintaan melampau Iran tu.. jadi mereka jadikan Malaysia hab utama di Asia untuk senangkan kerja lagipun jet SU30MKM tu dibuat khas mengikut kehendak Malaysia yang sistem avionik dia dibuang habis buatan Israel ganti dengan yang sistem terbaik lain dari seluruh dunia.. kalau tanya atreuangel dia boleh terang lagi baik dari aku

dulu Malaysia pun ada masalah nak buat jet2 latihan.. harap2 dengan perjanjian ini kita boleh dapat buat jet latihan dengan amat banyak versi Yakolev tu, yang juruterbang-juruterbang hebat dari Russia banyak belajar guna jet latihan tu.. sekarang semua boleh dapat lagi murah sebab jadi OEM made in Malaysia.. kos untuk jadi pilot dapat dikurang dengan amat banyak.. nak belajar jadi pilot bukannya murah mau kena ada duit minimum RM200,000 tu.
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hack3line. apa advantage move2 special sukhoi nie? dogfig
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advantage lain kalau tak silap aku jet2 Sukhoi ialah ia boleh bawa sistem persenjataan yang amat berat dan banyak.. boleh set 8 target serentak dan tembak semuanya dengan tepat.. dia boleh juga bawa bom BRAHMOS yang kelajuan bom peluru berpandu tu mengalahkan kelajuan supersonic!

ada sebab jet2 pejuang TUDM diwarnakan sebegitu, dia pakai cat khas untuk jadikan dia lebih halimunan daripada radar.. yang SUKHOI SU30 Indonesia pakai tu paling asas, sistem persenjataan dia pun paling asas je.. tapi yang Malaysia pakai tu adalah versi yang paling dahsyat di dunia selain dari SU35,.. aku tahu TUDM ada order RV-77 adder antara bom peluru berpandu yang amat dahsyat di dunia ni, kalau sekali tembak tu jauh betul dia boleh pergi.. memang lebih kepada bersifat menyerang dari bersifat bertahan! GILA la TUDM, katanya nak tambah BRAHMOS tak lama lagi.. tapi aku hendak sangat Malaysia ada sistem AEW&C sendiri untuk kukuhkan lagi sistem pertahanan udara Malaysia (harga dia mahal melampau pula, harap2 kita boleh buat macam negara Cina buat sendiri je AEW&C dengan bantuan Russia)

lain2 kena tanya atreuangel, dia kata dia kat base TUDM Kuantan, dia mesti lagi banyak dari aku.
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baca statement berita tu betul2 la, bukan buat kapal terbang, buat parts kapal terbang, for global market, including russia. And also MRO.

Gila punya excited orang nih
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Habis lah Sukhoi quality will drop 20%.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 24 2010, 08:03 PM)
baca statement berita tu betul2 la, bukan buat kapal terbang, buat parts kapal terbang, for global market, including russia. And also MRO.

Gila punya excited orang nih
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mula2 camtu la, syarikat Nike dari USA dulu pun asalnya diaorang mula dengan jual kasut2 Onitsuka Tiger dari Jepun..
dah pandai diaorang buat sendiri sampai jadi amat terkenal sekarang, kalah pula Onitsuka Tiger tu.

PROTON, dulu semua pun pakai Mitsubishi punya.. sekarang dah buat sendiri sampai ke enjin

Russia dulu pun sebelum dapat buat jet SUKHOI dan MiG ni, banyak belajar dari orang lain gak.. tahun 1913, diaorang belajar dari pencipta namanya Glenn Curtiss yang asal dari USA, camne nak buat kapal terbang.. pastu masa perang dunia, ada jet buatan BMW Jerman.. jatuh, diaorang bawa balik pastu kaji sungguh sistem dia "reverse engineering".. lepas dah berjaya faham, baru diaorang mulakan buat jet perang sendiri

semua benda pun kena usaha keras juga, tapi kalau dah ada sampai nak buat kilang dan setuju nak buat pertukaran teknologi.. itu dah kira langkah pertama yang amat baik.. aku minat betul jet2 perang buatan Russia yang cara dia terbang tu memang amat dahsyat betul!

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advantage lain kalau tak silap aku jet2 Sukhoi ialah ia boleh bawa sistem persenjataan yang amat berat dan banyak.. boleh set 8 target serentak dan tembak semuanya dengan tepat.. dia boleh juga bawa bom BRAHMOS yang kelajuan bom peluru berpandu tu mengalahkan kelajuan supersonic!

ada sebab jet2 pejuang TUDM diwarnakan sebegitu, dia pakai cat khas untuk jadikan dia lebih halimunan daripada radar.. yang SUKHOI SU30 Indonesia pakai tu paling asas, sistem persenjataan dia pun paling asas je.. tapi yang Malaysia pakai tu adalah versi yang paling dahsyat di dunia selain dari SU35,.. aku tahu TUDM ada order RV-77 adder antara bom peluru berpandu yang amat dahsyat di dunia ni, kalau sekali tembak tu jauh betul dia boleh pergi.. memang lebih kepada bersifat menyerang dari bersifat bertahan! GILA la TUDM, katanya nak tambah BRAHMOS tak lama lagi.. tapi aku hendak sangat Malaysia ada sistem AEW&C sendiri untuk kukuhkan lagi sistem pertahanan udara Malaysia (harga dia mahal melampau pula, harap2 kita boleh buat macam negara Cina buat sendiri je AEW&C dengan bantuan Russia)

lain2 kena tanya atreuangel, dia kata dia kat base TUDM Kuantan, dia mesti lagi banyak dari aku.
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wow...terror betul laa...singapore punya jet fighter pun takut..
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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Apr 24 2010, 08:28 PM)
Habis lah Sukhoi quality will drop 20%.
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uishh.. lu jangan main2 wehh mati kang orang!

kejuruteraan kapal terbang antara yang paling susah di dunia ni, tak boleh silap sikit pun.. kalau tak antara dia tak naik ke langit ataupun terhempas.
nak buat kapal terbang, jurutera2 diaorang kira sampai ke 6 tempat titik perpuluhan tu.. tak boleh silap kira sikit pun.

before this there was a case where the airplane crash, when they investigate.. it is just a small matter a design defect on its windows which have sharp edge.. that's why la nowaday aeroplane windows quite "bulat" to make the air flow more efficient and easy.

the engineering of aeroplane is not as easy as we all think, that's why when the genius of LOTUS company, Colin Chapman applied the aeroplane technology to their current LOTUS F1 Racing cars, especially the monocoque F1 cockpit design.. they always win the races defeating the Italian Ferrari which is very good in engine design.. since then he inspired so many british engineers on aerodynamics and since then F1 teams start using wind tunnel which before only use in aeroplane manufacturing process to test its aerodynamics, the air flow.

this was previously aeroplane technology applied to F1 cars to ensure great success, faster car!


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sukoi must be adapt from japanese word - > great
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pugachev's cobra...2D thrust vectoring...RCS...


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QUOTE(kuroman84 @ Apr 24 2010, 10:33 PM)
sukoi must be adapt from japanese word - > great
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wrong.
sukhoi is actually d founder's name. Pavel Sukhoi (1939) [thanks uncle wiki]

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 24 2010, 09:06 PM)
wow...terror betul laa...singapore punya jet fighter pun takut..
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pasal singapura punya jet fighter.. USA tolong binakan untuk diaorang F-15SG (variasi terbaik F-15) untuk lawan jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM
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ini apa yang surat khabar Singapura tulis pasal jet pejuang F-15SG yang dibina khas untuk lawan jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM Malaysia
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ia boleh gak bawah persenjataan yang amat berat dan bersifat menyerang gak nih.. boleh bubuh senjata terbaru USA, dan dikatakan ada aplikasikan teknologi halimunan/stealth F22 dalam dia

tapi aku rasa tetap jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM milik Malaysia yang paling dahsyat.. sebab tu Singapura katanya sudah order 100 jet pejuang F35 generasi kelima dari USA, mereka masuk projek ni, boleh nampak bendera singapura kat jet pejuang F-35 yang boleh menaik secara STOVL (Short Take-Off Landing), kegunaan utama ialah serang dari laut sebab dia boleh landing atas aircraft-carrier yang singapura ada sekarang ni kalau tak silap aku.

mungkin Malaysia akan lawan balik dengan perolehan jet pejuang PAK FA yang setanding atau lebih hebat dari F22 pula..
kita tunggu dan lihat je la nanti.. tapi kat bawah laut tu banyak sungguh kapal selam singapura, malaysia baru ada 2.. itupun ada masalah lagi dan satu lagi guna untuk belajar laugh.gif
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i dont think china can buy any aircraft from us, but singapore can


Added on April 24, 2010, 10:49 pmi dunno man, but i noticed whenever malaysia but one, singapore will buy another couple more, when malaysai but 2, singapore will buy another n another couple more

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QUOTE(kuroman84 @ Apr 24 2010, 10:42 PM)
i dont think china can buy any aircraft from us, but singapore can
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Malaysia must make friend with China and also USA, if we want to have a very good (Airborne Early Warning & Control) AEW&C system..

before this china want to buy USA made AEW&C but later blocked by Israel order, they feel threaten after found out that China provide Hamas, the palestinian mujahiddin with rocket launcher (USA really israel dog la..)... after that case, china hackers launched a simultaneous 8 developed country important computer system especially PENTAGON to acquire the info.. and then they, Chinese made their own AEW&C system with the russian help.. crazy!

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USA made jet fighters are very good in computer system and electronics integration, they have what they called Network Centric Warfare to ensure full success when they attacked afghanistan and iraq last time.

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Apr 24 2010, 10:40 PM)
pasal singapura punya jet fighter.. USA tolong binakan untuk diaorang F-15SG (variasi terbaik F-15) untuk lawan jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM
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ini apa yang surat khabar Singapura tulis pasal jet pejuang F-15SG yang dibina khas untuk lawan jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM Malaysia
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ia boleh gak bawah persenjataan yang amat berat dan bersifat menyerang gak nih.. boleh bubuh senjata terbaru USA, dan dikatakan ada aplikasikan teknologi halimunan/stealth F22 dalam dia

tapi aku rasa tetap jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM milik Malaysia yang paling dahsyat.. sebab tu Singapura katanya sudah order 100 jet pejuang F35 generasi kelima dari USA, mereka masuk projek ni, boleh nampak bendera singapura kat jet pejuang F-35 yang boleh menaik secara STOVL (Short Take-Off Landing), kegunaan utama ialah serang dari laut sebab dia boleh landing atas aircraft-carrier yang singapura ada sekarang ni kalau tak silap aku.

mungkin Malaysia akan lawan balik dengan perolehan jet pejuang PAK FA yang setanding atau lebih hebat dari F22 pula..
kita tunggu dan lihat je la nanti.. tapi kat bawah laut tu banyak sungguh kapal selam singapura, malaysia baru ada 2.. itupun ada masalah lagi dan satu lagi guna untuk belajar  laugh.gif
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pak fa multi role ler... f-22 air superiority... mana boleh menang...f-35 mayb la
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terima kasih atas informasi2 ko bg hack3line. aku enjoy baca
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Apr 24 2010, 01:39 PM)
in before engine hilang...
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i was going to say that! LOL... yup msia will now be source of black market jet engines
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yeah terima kasih hackline...How do u improve ur military "vocab"?
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 24 2010, 11:09 PM)
pak fa multi role ler... f-22 air superiority... mana boleh menang...f-35 mayb la
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PAK FA dibina khas untuk lawan kedua-duanya sekali F-22 dan F-35.. F35 lagi teruk kena kalau mau lawan SUKHOI PAK FA!

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aku rasa kelebihan terbesar dia ialah pada sistem enjin dia tu.. Russia buat SU37 sebab nak test sistem enjin yang akan dipakai pada projek PAK FA, manakala sistem aerodinamik pula dari projek Mikoyan Project 1.44 + SUKHOI Berkut 47.. sistem avionik pula dia upgrade berperingkat-peringkat test dari SUKHOI SU30 MKI yang India pakai tu kepada SUKHOI SU35 yang Tentera Udara Russia pakai sekarang dan juga, test sistem avionik terbaik dari seluruh dunia pada jet SUKHOI SU30 MKM yang Malaysia guna sekarang ni (gila punya TUDM.. p minta letak sistem avionik gila2 punya).. maunya harga jet tu rasanya yang termahal antara semua variasi SUKHOI untuk export.

expert kata SUKHOI PAK FA akan menang dengan F22.. ini review dia aku cuba quote kan untuk kita semua baca..

sistem persenjataan PAK FA, review dari airforce expert

"Consider a QWIP technology “OLS-50M” installed in the PAK-FA. Such a device could be design-optimised for simultaneous detection and tracking of aircraft exhausts, jet-plumes and missile flares to ranges of 70 nm and beyond – the limiting factors are the size of the optics, cooling system and detector area. Russia has decades of experience in the integration of infrared sensors into its weapons systems, and QWIPs could well become the primary sensor and radar the secondary. This means that the F-22A AN/ALR-94 will be denied signals to detect and track the PAK-FA.
The ‘shooting match’ shifts from radar-centric to ‘infrared centric’. The problem here is that the PAK-FA will have it, the F-22A does not, and the ability of the F-35 EOTS and DAS to make long range aircraft detections and guide weapons is at best ‘unproven’. The F-35 systems have not been designed to be highly sensitive at the task of searching and tracking distant aircraft at those infrared colours where aircraft and their jet engines emit most of their infrared energy. An understanding of the physics, or for the ever-hopeful, a simple Developmental Test and Evaluation exercise will demonstrate this.

With the Beyond-Visual-Range (BVR) radar detections being reduced to distances below 60 nautical miles and infrared sensor detection ranges growing beyond 50 nautical miles, a new generation of missiles will be required to dominate the battlespace.

Russian missile companies have shown much more flexibility and adaptability in the design of missiles, so the PAK-FA could have a new-generation of shorter range, but higher agility missiles – a fusion of the ideas in the R-74 and R-77M, with a diverse mix of seeker heads. These missiles will likely be cued by the IRST sensor, be equipped with inertial midcourse guidance and, probably, mid-course guidance update capability transmitted either by radio, or possibly infra-red laser or millimetric wave links.

Expect the PAK-FA to have vectored thrust and high levels of agility like the Flankers it is to either replace or complement. Long missile range requires large rocket or ram-jet motors and these heavy weapons lack the agility to pull high terminal ‘G’, and may be ‘ducked’ by the PAK-FA as easily as by the Su-35-1. "

sistem enjin PAK FA, review dari airforce expert

"The PAK-FA will use a new super-cruising engine, based on technology from the Al-41F series, so its tactic might be to maintain combat speeds of about Mach 1.5 and use a more compact version of the ramjet RVV-AE-PD. A supersonic launch enables a ramjet to light without a powerful booster – thereby denying an opponent the detection of the usual missile launch flare."

ramalan situasi sebenar peperangan SUKHOI PAK FA vs F22 vs F35

"Fights between the F-22A and the PAK-FA will be close, high, fast and lethal. The F-22A may get ‘first look’ with the APG-77, the Advanced Infra Red Search and Track (AIRST) sensor having been deleted to save money, but the PAK-FA may get ‘first look’ using its advanced infrared sensor. Then, the engagement becomes a supersonic equivalent of the Battle of Britain or air combat over North Korea. The outcome will be difficult to predict as it will depend a lot on the combat skills of the pilots and the capabilities of the missiles for end-game kills. There is no guarantee that the F-22 will prevail every time.

The fate of the F-35 Lightning II would be far worse in an air combat environment challenged by the PAK-FA. If the Mach 1.5 PAK-FA is using its infrared sensor as the primary sensor and observes radio frequency emission control (EMCON), then the first detection by the F-35’s APG-81 radar could be at ~20 nautical miles or less with a missile launched by the PAK-FA’s infrared sensors already inbound from 60 to 70 nautical miles away. The PAK-FA could easily break to a direction outside the F-35’s AIM-120 engagement zone.

The sustained turning performance of the F-35A Lightning II was recently disclosed as 4.95 G at Mach 0.8 and 15,000 ft. A 1969 F-4E Phantom II could sustain 5.5 Gs at 0.8 Mach with 40 percent internal fuel at 20,000 feet. The F-35 is also much slower than the 1960s F-4E or F-105D. So the F-35A’s aerodynamic performance is ‘retrograde’ when compared with 1960s legacy fighters. The consequence of such inferior JSF performance is that its DAS might detect an incoming missile, but the aircraft lacks the turn-rate to out-fly it. As the F-35 also lacks the performance to engage or escape, repeated ‘freebie’ shots from the PAK-FA could inflict high losses. Expect the exchange rate to be of the order of 4:1 in favour of the PAK-FA, possibly much higher

The most dangerous situation the US could face, is where the high and upwardly spiralling development and production costs of the JSF ‘cuckoo’ the available resources, which are needed to develop the advanced capabilities necessary to counter the new Russian PAK-FA, and the generation of new weapons which the PAK-FA will inevitably be armed with.

Complacency is not an option. Having ruled the roost for the decade out to 2015, the F-22A may be knocked off its perch by a newcomer, unless the US invests in new sensors, especially, and advanced technology Infra-Red Search and Track, stealth improvements and a new generation of missiles for the F-22 – assuming it even builds more than the token number of F-22s currently planned. The F-35 has already been neutralised and negated by the Su-35-1/35BM and will be substantively overmatched by the PAK-FA. The West needs to think long, hard and fast about the PAK-FA, as the current and retrograde “F-35 centric” future fighter fleet model guarantees certain defeat in future combat."

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diaorang kata kalau nak lawan sebijik SUKHOI PAK FA kena guna kaedah NETWORK CENTRIC WARFARE yang diaorang pernah cuba aplikasikan dalam peperangan di Iraq dan Afghanistan.. tapi aku rasa negara Cina, ally kuat Russia mesti kongsi maklumat risikan yang diaorang dapat hack dari PENTAGON tu. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Apr 24 2010, 10:40 PM)
pasal singapura punya jet fighter.. USA tolong binakan untuk diaorang F-15SG (variasi terbaik F-15) untuk lawan jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM
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ini apa yang surat khabar Singapura tulis pasal jet pejuang F-15SG yang dibina khas untuk lawan jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM Malaysia
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ia boleh gak bawah persenjataan yang amat berat dan bersifat menyerang gak nih.. boleh bubuh senjata terbaru USA, dan dikatakan ada aplikasikan teknologi halimunan/stealth F22 dalam dia

tapi aku rasa tetap jet SUKHOI SU-30MKM milik Malaysia yang paling dahsyat.. sebab tu Singapura katanya sudah order 100 jet pejuang F35 generasi kelima dari USA, mereka masuk projek ni, boleh nampak bendera singapura kat jet pejuang F-35 yang boleh menaik secara STOVL (Short Take-Off Landing), kegunaan utama ialah serang dari laut sebab dia boleh landing atas aircraft-carrier yang singapura ada sekarang ni kalau tak silap aku.

mungkin Malaysia akan lawan balik dengan perolehan jet pejuang PAK FA yang setanding atau lebih hebat dari F22 pula..
kita tunggu dan lihat je la nanti.. tapi kat bawah laut tu banyak sungguh kapal selam singapura, malaysia baru ada 2.. itupun ada masalah lagi dan satu lagi guna untuk belajar  laugh.gif
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I dont think sg has any carriers yet and I think they will be hard pressed to actually be allowed to acquire F35s so early in the program even if there is any spare factory capacity. Not long ago US just green lighted the sale of F16 to Taiwan, that also has taken their congress to fully say yes first. I will not be so easy
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I dont think sg has any carriers yet and I think they will be hard pressed to actually be allowed to acquire F35s so early in the program even if there is any spare factory capacity. Not long ago US just green lighted the sale of F16 to Taiwan, that also has taken their congress to fully say yes first.  I will not be so easy
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hmmm.. but singapore, the USA even built special version of F-15SG to counter Malaysia acquirement SUKHOI SU30 MKM.. Singapore even got Apache helicopter, considered as #1 best attack helicopter in this world.. what can we say more? I think if they want F22 also can la.. they just wait if Malaysia really go for SUKHOI PAK FA or not from Russia.

anyway, i notice the difference of USA made jet fighters look more computerized (meaning that programmer have more of its power rather than human being), while the Russian made jet fighters look like fully depended on human skill.. before this USA "upah" some Russian pilot to teach them how to do the Pugachev Cobra maneuver before they make the F22 jet fighter.. F22 can perform it but look like not as easy as Russian made jet fighters.. lulz

watch this video : even Russian girl can fly the SUKHOI SU31 aeroplane so easy...!!


look how easy and awesome move this Russian girl make with SUKHOI SU30


CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY.. to think even a girl can make awesome move with only training jet, not the real jet fighter yet..
RUSSIAN JET FIGHTERS really awesome.. they have the skill! drool.gif
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if im not mistaken, all version Su27 & Su30 can do pugachev cobra( thanks to its unique airframe, its a rapid attempt to escape the heat seeker missle kan?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugachev's_Cobra

on the other hand, Kulbit maneuver only can be performed by modernized Su30K with TVC nozzles( including our Su30MKM)
The only other can do it is only F22 raptor....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulbit
other than that, cannot due highly possible of cbroken airframe!(even they usingTVC)---no info from wiki about this

betul kan?
hhmmm apa pulak fungsi additional canard tuh?supposely got some real advantage?eventhough it will make the aerodynamic less efficient right?--i heard its for agility in close dogfight?


anyway im really pissed-off when I heard 1 of the Su30MKM had FOD during takeoff (Thank God the right Saturn engine is not total lost..several 1st stage blades severely damaged & had to be replaced while some other blades can be repaired as minor dent only

really sadden by this incident at Gong Kedak ( eventhough the FOD could possibly be one of the accidentally nuts/bolts of the aircraft, who knows it could just a humble 50sen got sucked into the engine...strange why Su30 cannot copy the FOD preventive design iincorporated at Mig29?--surely they must do deep R&D on this..
hope they learned this hard

BTW im also feel so proud that My country IS THE ONLY foreign country that have such production line for Su30 (highly sensitive technology, mana boleh suka2 setup new production line other than their local Irkut sites........other than India(correct me if there are other countries that produce OEM for Su30)
http://www.nst.com.my/articles/14dsa/Article/index_html

from the NST link,it clearly said its not for OEM parts & MRO only...SYABAS TANAHAIRKU!!!

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dats why the russians will prepare spare engines.

if not later jet not engine, submarine cannot submerge.
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 25 2010, 02:44 AM)
if im not mistaken, all  version Su27 & Su30 can do pugachev cobra( thanks to its unique airframe, its a rapid attempt to escape the heat seeker missle kan?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugachev's_Cobra

on the other hand, Kulbit maneuver only can be performed by modernized Su30K with TVC nozzles( including our Su30MKM)
The only other can do it is only F22 raptor....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulbit
other than that, cannot due highly possible of cbroken airframe!(even they usingTVC)---no info from wiki about this

betul kan?
hhmmm apa pulak fungsi additional canard tuh?supposely got some real advantage?eventhough it will make the aerodynamic less efficient right?--i heard its for agility in close dogfight?
anyway im really pissed-off when I heard 1 of the Su30MKM had FOD during takeoff (Thank God the right Saturn engine is not total lost..several 1st stage blades severely damaged & had to be replaced while some other blades can be repaired as minor dent only

really sadden by this incident at Gong Kedak ( eventhough the FOD could possibly be  one of the accidentally nuts/bolts of the aircraft, who knows it could just a humble 50sen got sucked into the engine...strange why Su30 cannot copy the FOD preventive design iincorporated at Mig29?--surely they must do deep R&D on this..
hope they learned this hard

BTW im also feel so proud that My country IS THE ONLY foreign country that have such production line for Su30 (highly sensitive technology, mana boleh suka2 setup new production line other than their local Irkut sites........other than India(correct me if there are other countries that produce OEM for Su30)
http://www.nst.com.my/articles/14dsa/Article/index_html

from the NST link,it clearly said its not for OEM parts & MRO only...SYABAS TANAHAIRKU!!!
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ohh.. bagus betul ko ni.. kalau dapat kawan orang yang ada ilmu memang best sembang laju je rclxms.gif

apa fungsi canard ye..

kalau untuk jet sukhoi,

"The canards were needed to increase/maintain maneuverability of the planes due to the addition of more modern, significantly heavier (than Su-27) hardware in the nose area. The disadvantages of the canards is that they significantly increase radar returns and drag, thus decreasing efficiency, speed, range, and weapons-carrying capacity."

canard dalam teknologi kapal terbang ada macam2 pula.. tengok kereta F1 front wing dia tu kira macam canard la juga, zaman dulu2 kereta F1 mana ada benda tu.. ia untuk mudahkan buat maneuver yang dahsyat2, kalau kereta F1 kelebihan terbesar dia masa nak main corner tu

canard dalam bahasa perancis bermaksud itik..

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jet Sukhoi kebanyakannya pakai Canard kecuali SU27 yang lebih ringan, tapi SU35BM yang tentera udara Russia pakai tu tak ada canard dahsyat gak gerakan dia, dia berat gak.. orang Russia p ubah sistem enjin dan buntut keluar api dia (ko tengok betul2 buntut dia boleh pusing merata), sebab tu dia tak pakai canard.

cara bawa jet buatan russia memang perlukan skill yang tinggi kalau nak buat gerakan yang dahsyat.. nak kena main canard dia, cara buntut dia gerak dan api jet tu.. kalau jet buatan USA, tak payah nak main2 benda tu sebab tu diaorang tak boleh nak buat gerakan dahsyat2 macam jet sukhoi boleh buat...

pasal kata jet F22 boleh gak gerakan Kulbit... tetap tak boleh lawan jet sukhoi, angle pusingan kulbit dia tak serapat yang jet sukhoi boleh buat!

tengok video ni.. camne jet SUKHOI SU-30MKI menari atas awan tu.. perhati elok2 dia punya buntut yang keluar api tu dan canard dia, diaorang main2 untuk dapatkan gerakan maneuver yang dahsyat!


kalau Malaysia pakai jet latihan buatan negara lain, dia kena pakai jet latihan buatan Russia juga, memang nanti tak dapat nak gunakan sepenuhnya, maksimumkan keupayaan jet SUKHOI tu.. sebelum ni aku dah tengok video masa TUDM mula2 dapat jet SUKHOI ni.. aku dah agak dah mesti cara diaorang bawa macam bawa jet perang buatan USA juga, gerakan akrobatik biasa je.. tak reti nak main2 dia punya canard dan buntut api dia yang boleh gerak merata tu.. tapi sekarang katanya dah pergi belajar di Russia mungkin dah reti main kot.. mungkin tak lama lagi dapat la kita lihat pilot2 TUDM buat gerakan Cobra dan Kulbit tu.. pilot Russia masa event LIMA buat gerakan senang gila.. bayangkan masa nak landing boleh lagi diaorang buat gerakan Kulbit yang dahsyat tu 2 ke 3 kali.. gila betul!
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kenyataan rasmi dari jurutera Malaysia yang kerja di Rolls Royce, England yang Malaysia akan bina jet pejuang sendiri.. nampaknya impian untuk Malaysia bina jet pejuang sendiri sudah jadi amat dekat dengan Russia laburkan sebanyak RM16.5 BILLION untuk pembangunan R&D dan komponen2 pesawat pejuang OEM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Apr 24 2010, 08:39 PM)
fuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUU!!!

russian is our fwens nao!!!!!!!
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yeah.. Russian is our friend..
negara2 kuasa komunis tak sombong dengan Malaysia, Vladimir Putin (bekas Presiden Russia) pernah datang turun ke Malaysia dan masuk dalam mesyuarat agong OIC (masa tu Dr Mahathir hentam habis yahudi.. masa ada Vladimir Putin).. negara China pula, bekas Presiden China Hu Jin Tao datang turun ke Malaysia dan masa Malaysia datang ke negara China dia p arahkan orang dia cari gambar kenangan dulu pemerintah Malaysia terdahulu.. habis dia panggil semua wartawan suruh cek balik semua yang ada, aku rasa diaorang kenang usaha Malaysia dulu hantar orang untuk mudahkan Hong Kong masuk balik ke dalam wilayah China.

negara2 kuasa komunis ni dalam media barat terutama yang dipegang oleh USA.. hampir tiap2 hari diaorang hentam.. tapi sekurang-kurangnya diaorang tak sombong dengan Malaysia, pemimpin tertinggi diaorang sanggup turun ke Malaysia.

projek lepas ni buat roket buatan Malaysia sendiri sepenuhnya dengan bantuan negara Russia dan Jepun (MITSUBISHI).. dulu debat hebat di parlimen Malaysia bila seorang ahli parlimen kata Malaysia nak bawa masuk teknologi roket Jepun (MITSUBISHI) untuk projek roket Malaysia dan lancarkan ia di Malaysia.. macam2 la diaorang kata, konon dulu Jepun tak berjaya lancarkan roket diaorang (memang betul, tapi lepas diaorang kaji balik, lancar kali kedua.. sekarang Jepun dapat enjoy internet satelit #1 terlaju di dunia!).. nak senangkan hati semua kata tunggu Russia nak masuk tak projek roket Malaysia nanti.... tengok2 keluar kenyataan rasmi dari Russia yang diaorang setuju nak bantu projek roket buatan Malaysia dan tempat yang dicadangkan untuk dilanacarkan ialah di sekitar Tawau, Sabah.. kemungkinan besar komponen2 roket tu dibuat di Sungkai, Perak juga memandangkan teknologi pembuatan jet pejuang dan roket adalah amat hampir! RUSSIA janji laburkan RM16.5 BILLION untuk teknologi angkasa yang berkaitan... CTRM yang pegang kebanyakan kontrak berkaitan teknologi angkasa dijangkan bina wind tunnel/terowong angin yang amat maju di research centre diaorang di Perak dan juga bergabung dengan LOTUS RACING, R&D F1 untuk aerodynamic di Sepang, Selangor

KENYATAAN RASMI RUSSIA sedia bantu projek roket Malaysia
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lokasi cadangan pelancaran roket Malaysia (dengan kerjasama MITSUBISHI Jepun dan kerajaan Russia) ialah di Tawau Sabah
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masa angkasawan Malaysia Sheikh Muzaffar p angkasa lepas, kerajaan jepun minta tolong dia bawa sekali research diaorang ke angkasa lepas.. Russia tawarkan free je trip p angkasa lepas tu selepas Malaysia beli jet Sukhoi dengan modifikasi melampau terutama sistem avionik dia (pandai betul la diaorang nak jaga hati pelanggan.. haha) laugh.gif
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beware the might of USSR!


The USSR hasn't existed for a long time.


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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 25 2010, 02:44 AM)
if im not mistaken, all  version Su27 & Su30 can do pugachev cobra( thanks to its unique airframe, its a rapid attempt to escape the heat seeker missle kan?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugachev's_Cobra

on the other hand, Kulbit maneuver only can be performed by modernized Su30K with TVC nozzles( including our Su30MKM)
The only other can do it is only F22 raptor....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulbit
other than that, cannot due highly possible of cbroken airframe!(even they usingTVC)---no info from wiki about this

betul kan?
hhmmm apa pulak fungsi additional canard tuh?supposely got some real advantage?eventhough it will make the aerodynamic less efficient right?--i heard its for agility in close dogfight?
anyway im really pissed-off when I heard 1 of the Su30MKM had FOD during takeoff (Thank God the right Saturn engine is not total lost..several 1st stage blades severely damaged & had to be replaced while some other blades can be repaired as minor dent only

really sadden by this incident at Gong Kedak ( eventhough the FOD could possibly be  one of the accidentally nuts/bolts of the aircraft, who knows it could just a humble 50sen got sucked into the engine...strange why Su30 cannot copy the FOD preventive design iincorporated at Mig29?--surely they must do deep R&D on this..
hope they learned this hard

BTW im also feel so proud that My country IS THE ONLY foreign country that have such production line for Su30 (highly sensitive technology, mana boleh suka2 setup new production line other than their local Irkut sites........other than India(correct me if there are other countries that produce OEM for Su30)
http://www.nst.com.my/articles/14dsa/Article/index_html

from the NST link,it clearly said its not for OEM parts & MRO only...SYABAS TANAHAIRKU!!!
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Even if we build the T50s, which we definitely won't, do you think we'll own them?

F-22s and B2s are not even mass produced because of their cost. The F-35 is introduced to be more cost efficient than the F-22, that's why it's worse than the raptor in almost every way. The Pak fa is 10 years behind the F-22. That's way worse than Nvidia which is just 1 year behind ATI.

Even if the Pak fa will rival the F-22, Malaysia won't have it. Nor should we want to. We are too small a nation, and our economy too tiny to spend on these. Too bad we'll never become a world power, not at our lifetime.

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EQUIPMENT TYPE: VARIABLE VEHICLES

GOVERNMENT: ANTI-U.N.

MANUFACTURER: SUKHOI/ISRAEL AIRCRAFT INDUSTRIES/DORNIER

SUKHOI/ISRAEL AIRCRAFT INDUSTRIES/DORNIER SV-51

TYPE: Variable fighter.

PROGRAM: Top secret variable fighter reportedly developed with Overtechnology obtained illicitly from the U.N. variable fighter development. (Details of this are unknown.) Like the VF-0, it is an advance trial production model equipped with conventional engines, developed before planned variable fighters with thermonuclear turbine engines. However, since it was planned from the beginning for actual combat, its practicality and stability in combat situations is higher than the VF-0's.

Due to its larger dimensions and mass, it has relatively more underpowered transforming actuators and longer transformation times than the VF-O's. Features high air combat maneuverability inherited from the Sukhoi design team's legacy, but a shorter cruising range than the VF-0's. To compensate for the short cruising range, it is often transported to the area of operation and launched underwater by a specially modified submarine aircraft carrier . Active stealth system with higher efficiency and output compared to the VF-0's system. Unlike the VF-0, it has VTOL capabilities without needing to transform from Fighter to GERWALK mode. Flown over the South Pacific Ocean one year before Space War I.

VARIANTS:
SV-51α (single-seat variant): Mass production type. An estimated 32 units manufactured. (12 have been modified.)
SV-51 (two-seat variant): An estimated 6 units manufactured.
SV-51γ: Specially tuned version for ace pilots.
[Note: Several units exists which have been modified for underwater launching capabilities from submarines. These units launch from a submarine at periscope depth to 30 m underwater by using rocket motors, and then fly after launch using standard turbojet engines. These units have been modified with improved waterproofing, pressure resistance, and folding wing construction to make them compact enough for stowage in the submarine launching docks.]

CUSTOMERS: Anti-U.N.

DESIGN FEATURES: 3-mode variable transformation system into Fighter, GERWALK, and Battroid modes. Main wing extends and retracts.

FLYING CONTROLS: Four-channel analog fly-by-wire (SDU-29 electronic remote control system), SBA-29 Battroid-mode control system, subordinate to the SAU-29 CNI system.

POWER PLANT: Two Aviadvigatel D-30F6X turbofan jet engines, each rated at 102.5 kN and 204.7 kN with afterburning, with variable nozzles that pivot 90 degrees down for VTOL flight in Fighter mode. Two VTOL fan jets in center fore in Fighter mode (operating as high-maneuverability jets in Battroid mode). Two micro-missile launcher/auxillary drop tank composite pods mounted on wingtip hard points. Option of two high-speed, high-maneuverability twin jet boosters equipped with Klimov RD-35A/R composite engines (capable of switching between turbofan jet and ramjet modes), each rated at 79.7 kN and 127.5 kN with afterburning (159.7 kN in ramjet mode) with variable nozzles on overwing hard points (installed for the final battle at the island of Mayan).

ACCOMMODATION: Pilot only. (A two-seat variant also exists.) Side-stick controller and multi-position throttle lever/stick. Two rear (back) mirrors.

AVIONICS: HUD. SPO-15C 360° passive radar warning receiver system. One APP-60 chaff and flare dispenser system. RP-51 active stealth system with antennae along circumference of nose (newly developed in Germany). SW-51 SWAG energy converting armor system, other equipment.

ARMAMENT: One (two in SV-51γ) fixed Gsh-231 12.7 mm mini-gun. One standard Gsh-371 55 mm gun pod with 120 rounds and one standard spare magazine stowed in unit's special aft gun pod rack. Six underwing hard points with four micro-missile launcher/auxillary tank composite pods (with 18 Turopov SA-19M I/IR-guided micro-missiles), two R-33D Amos+ medium-range maneuvering missiles, or a combination of the above. Two auxillary pods are normally mounted on wingtip hard points. Four auxillary pods and two Amos+ medium-range maneuverability missiles were installed at the final battle at the island of Mayan due to the Amos+'s great destructive power and the insufficiency of mico-missiles as a main armament (since the enemy was not just VF-0 but also the Bird Man). It has been determined that only four auxillary pods are used for combat at close range. Capable of mounting most former Warsaw Pact military standard aviation weaponry as well as an air blast bomb nicknamed "Daisy Cutter."

DIMENSIONS, EXTERNAL:
Fighter mode:
Length overall:
22.77 m

MASSES AND LOADINGS:
Mass empty:
17800 kg

PERFORMANCE:
Fighter mode:
Max speed: at 11000 m  Mach 2.81
    with twin boosters at 11500 m  Mach 3.22
Cruising Range: with standard micro-missile launcher/auxillary tank composite pods  1910 km
    with twin boosters and standard micro-missile launcher/auxillary tank composite pods  1250 km
Service Ceiling:  22500 m

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Debut: Macross Zero
Designer: Shoji Kawamori, Junya Ishigaki (cockpit)
Design inspiration: Sukhoi Su-27
Note: In real life, Toropov is a manufacturer of aircraft armament.
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sukhoi and israel has strong relationship. Sukhoi system developed by Israeli Aircraft Industries (IAI) and Elta Electronics Industries of Israel.
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Bagus la kena main dengan Rusia tu.Kalau Rusia boleh jual bende tu kat kita diaorang pun boleh jual bende tu kat orang lain.orang lain boleh beli pada kuantiti yang banyak melibhi apa yang kita beli...Rusia tu pun bukan bodoh sangat nak bagi semua@jual habis semua apa yang diaorang ada....setau aku pembeli jet Rusia ni banyak.Mana-mana negara ada...bukan kita sahaja ada tech tu..jadi kenapa excited sangat?

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berapa negara yang ada jet tu? Iran dan Amerika sahaja ada tau.

Also same when play chess.also white and also black.black has Queen.White also ada Queen...each team only ada 1 Queen..what happend if black team ada 2 Queen? OR White Queen dah kalah? laugh.gif

Kalau aku jadi pemerintah singapura tu..aku akan lagakan Malaysia dengan Negara lain.bagi 2 negara ni berperang dulu.bila dah reda baru aku masuk serang Malaysia.walaupun aku hanya ada SEBUAH JET!!!!. whistling.gif maka esok atau lusa aku akan bercerita pada anak bangsaku ..

Pakcik menyerang Malaysia dengan menggunakan sebuagh jet sahaja... shocking.gif

Tu hari cadangan menteri mana nak gantikan MIG 29? atas alasan maintace tinggi.nasib baik kena reject.

Ni peribahasa yang takde dalam kamus..

Sains tak pernah menyelesaikan maslah tanpa menimbulkan 10 masalah yang lain.Science never solved problem without make 10 other problem
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Apr 25 2010, 05:47 PM)
Bagus la kena main dengan Rusia tu.Kalau Rusia boleh jual bende tu kat kita diaorang pun boleh jual bende tu kat orang lain.orang lain boleh beli pada kuantiti yang banyak melibhi apa yang kita beli...Rusia tu pun bukan bodoh sangat nak bagi semua@jual habis semua apa yang diaorang ada....setau aku pembeli jet Rusia ni banyak.Mana-mana negara ada...bukan kita sahaja ada tech tu..jadi kenapa excited sangat?

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berapa negara yang ada jet tu? Iran dan Amerika sahaja ada tau.

Also same when play chess.also white and also black.black has Queen.White also ada Queen...each team only ada 1 Queen..what happend if black team ada 2 Queen? OR White Queen dah kalah? laugh.gif

Kalau aku jadi pemerintah singapura tu..aku akan lagakan Malaysia dengan Negara lain.bagi 2 negara ni berperang dulu.bila dah reda baru aku masuk serang Malaysia.walaupun aku hanya ada SEBUAH JET!!!!. whistling.gif maka esok atau lusa aku akan bercerita pada anak bangsaku ..

Pakcik menyerang Malaysia dengan menggunakan sebuagh jet sahaja... shocking.gif

Tu hari cadangan menteri mana nak gantikan MIG 29? atas alasan maintace tinggi.nasib baik kena reject.

Ni peribahasa yang takde dalam kamus..

Sains tak pernah menyelesaikan maslah tanpa menimbulkan 10 masalah yang lain.Science never solved problem without make 10 other problem
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ko cakap memang betul pelanggan dari Asia memang banyak, business tetap business, Russia pun tak bodoh, Malaysia pun tak bodoh.. lagipun senang diaorang nak buat shipping dah Malaysia laluan utama laut antara Asia dan Eropah.. tak lama lagi mungkin kita dapat lihat air-craft carrier Russia datang nak ambil jet-jet pejuang diaorang lalu guna laut kita.. air-carrier Russia memang besar giler!

dulu projek PROTON pun MITSUBISHI Jepun tu pun tak bodoh, dia bagi bila punya berkurun punya teknologi kereta.. bayar R&D dia mahal sungguh, nasib baik sekarang dah berjaya buat sendiri sampai ke enjin.. nak idam dapat sebijik2 latest punya tech orang nak bagi, tunggu masuk syurga dulu la aku ingat.

pesawat Jet F14 tu yang kes dia ada juga kat Iran tu sebab dulu si Shah Iran tu jadi anjing amerika.. bukan takat jet tu je ada, teknolgi nuklear pun ada, USA punya kerja gak.. lepas semua mahasiswa universiti di Iran dan ramai giler orang, berjuta-juta turun gulingkan Shah Iran, diaorang ramai2 p buat rantai manusia berdepan kereta kebal USA.. Shah Iran tak dapat buat apa2 kena guling camtu sekali, dan lepas tu diaorang tubuhkan Republik Islam Iran

ko tak payah citer camtu.. dah lama jadi dah pun, Malaysia dan Indonesia punya rapat hubungan sejarah dan pertalian saudara cakap pun bahasa yang sama sebenarnya boleh gaduh2 siapa punya kerja tu?? hmm.gif

lepas Malaysia p jumpa orang tertinggi di Indonesia, dan berbaik semula...
lepas tu tetiba di media Indonesia cakap "jika roket2 ini dilancarkan dari Batam ia bisa menjangkau Singapura".. ini bukti video di bawah ni


pasal jet pejuang MiG29 nak tukar pun boleh tapi aku rasa letakkan keutamaan ganti helikopter Nuri maut tu dulu dah berkurun dah pakai, orang mati pun banyak dah terlampau usang.. setiap benda di dunia ni ada hayat dia sendiri, kalau nak terlalu save tapi banyak orang mati, tiada gunanya juga.. tentera-tentera Malaysia mereka bergadai nyawa, jiwa raga dan segala harta benda yang mereka ada untuk negara, kita pula nak terlampau berkira dengan diaorang ni.. pentingkan diri sendiri sangat! doh.gif
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waah good arrr you, get al your info from wikipeda... maybe you should do more research about your crappy car as well. yawn.gif
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the ONLY REASON I INCLUDE THE WIKIPEDIA LINK IS TO SPOON-FED LAZY FAG LIKE U,SIMPLE AS THAT ....as u can browse further, u wouldnt find the info I stated is included in the Wiki
regarding the FOD,eventhough there are some links points that our Flankers(yeah google it), they also failed to give details on how the damaged was done on which part of the twin engines.Heck, even the A$Zhole journalist even stated that both engines are lost which is way from truth!!!
"catastrophic damage"??? my A$Z!!!!

As for those who still believe our Flankers are having Israel parts, well yeah its applied to other Su30MKs but not ours(many avionics parts from Elta had been removed & replaced by Thales & Saab)

Elta is actually a subsidiary of IAI, not 2 different entities

BTW yeah,my car still crappy...but to tell u the truth, Vios(even the 2nd latest) & the City is crappier than mine(my frens also owned both of the models) ....Coz i had experienced some minor accidents with other "solid cars"(yes, more than 1), & I can tell u, I feel really good about owning a Waja,.huhuhu


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this jet will disconnected like tm arh?
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ko nak cakap jet "top-secret" ni ke?? sah ko ni peminat anime Macross.. hahaha

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tapi SUKHOI memang ada kaitan dengan Israel terutama dalam pembinaan avionic system dia.. mungkin sebab tu Russia pilih nak jadikan Malaysia tempat buat komponen2 jet diaorang supay dunia Islam beli jet-jet pejuang diaorang (business tetap business).. masa pembinaan jet pejuang SUKHOI versi Malaysia SUKHOI SU-30MKM yang diasaskan dari SUKHOI SU-30MKI milik India yang dikatakan sistem dia menghampiri SUKHOI SU35BM.. Malaysia p minta buang semua benda yang Israel buat tu ganti dengan pilihan yang TUDM mahu dari seluruh dunia.. tu sebab jet tu jadi mahal.

jet pejuang sebelah Russia pun ada komponen yang Israel buat, jet pejuang sebelah USA pun ada komponen yang Israel buat.. memang tak boleh lari punya, ilmu fizik Yahudi ni memang hebat hingga suatu ketika dulu telah teruk melemahkan semangat orang Jerman, tu pasal si Adolf Hitler p bunuh semua yahudi, bakar semua buku2 yahudi dan perkenalkan ilmu fizik jerman sendiri yang kita boleh rasa kesan di sekarang yang telah menjadikan jerman kuasa kejuruteraan terhebat di dunia dan juga kuasa ekonomi #1 di eropah, BOSCH, AUDI, MERCEDES-BENZ, PORSCHE, BMW semuanya dahsyat.. seluruh dunia kalau nak buat kereta dahsyat mesti diaorang p test dekat trek "Green Hell" Nurburgring di Jerman.. sirkit2 F1 yang dahsyat2 pun orang Jerman gak yang buat.

melainkan kita p bina jet pejuang sendiri, tak ada la komponen2 dari Israel tu.. dan benda tu sudah tidak lama, Malaysia akan buat komponen2 tu di Sungkai, Perak! icon_idea.gif .. orang Russia kata pada pak Arab "ya le le le.. mari beli jet pejuang kami.. 100% halal" laugh.gif

dulu Israel pernah lawan serentak negara2 Arab dalam perang 6 hari dengan Egypt/Mesir, Jordan, Syria, Iraq.
manakala Arab Saudi, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco dan Algeria beri bekalan ketenteraan.. habis semua negara arab ni kalah teruk dengan Israel!!!

ISRAEL MENANG LAWAN DENGAN NEGARA2 ARAB TU TANPA SEBIJIK PUN JET PEJUANG DIAORANG JATUH!!! dah diaorang gak buat komponen2 dalam jet2 pejuang Arab yang kebanyakannya dari Russia tu.. beli dari USA pun sama gak, komponen dalam dia Israel gak yang buat.. lagipun masa tu pak2 Arab ni pandang ringan sistem AEW&C (yang fungsi dia seperti hidu musuh dan bagitau jet2 pejuang sendiri secepat mungkin.. semacam command centre di atas angkasa tu, dengan boleh arahkan jet-jet pejuang sendiri bergerak dalam perkiraan matematik, strategi yang telah ditetapkan).. Israel p bom command centre pak2 Arab kat atas bumi atau ajak p main belakang bukit ke atau main pada ketinggian amat tinggi, jet2 pejuang pak2 arab ni sudah jadi buta hilang arah terus.. sebab tu aku selalu kata kalau malaysia nak kukuhkan sistem pertahanan udara kita.. kita mesti ada sistem AEW&C sendiri tapi nak beli tu mak aiii mahal sungguh berbillion RM harga dia sebijik!..

Singapura sekarang pakai sistem AEW&C sebijik yang Israel pakai masa perang Israel dengan pak2 Arab tu.. lagipun tau2 je la perancang utama sistem pertahanan Singapura didatangkan khas dari Israel.. Lee Kuan Yew panggil diaorang nih "Mexican", tak mau Malaysia dan Indonesia syak kedatangan diaorang.. tapi lama kelamaan tau juga la.

ni fakta video masa Israel lawan ramai sungguh pak arab yang semuanya kalah teruk tanpa sebijik pun jet pejuang Israel terhempas!

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buat Parts kecil dulu macam Indon baru boleh buat overall
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later jet-engine pun hilang ...

kalau tidak, terjunam ke gaung dan hutan ...

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"In total, Irkut has entered into 28 memoranda of agreement with various local parties to produce locally, under license, an array of parts and components not only for the Malaysian market but also for global requirements,"

According to him, IRKUT “will participate in the new tender of Malaysia on the possible purchase of additional batch of combat aircraft.

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QUOTE(menate_cat @ Apr 26 2010, 11:34 AM)
"In total, Irkut has entered into 28 memoranda of agreement with various local parties to produce locally, under license, an array of parts and components not only for the Malaysian market but also for global requirements,"

According to him, IRKUT “will participate in the new tender of Malaysia on the possible purchase of additional batch of combat aircraft.

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ok.. how about Malaysia add SUKHOI PAK FA to the list?? brows.gif

PAK FA (Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsy) stand for in English “Future Air Complex for Tactical Air Forces.”


design comparison F22 Raptor vs SUKHOI PAK FA
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the engineering draw of SUKHOI PAK FA design
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SUKHOI PAK FA weapon system??
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Just wondering who is Malaysia's threat(s) if we were to go to war?
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later they assemble kirov oso here
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you mean Kirov Airline?? hmm.gif

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Banyak sebab kenaap rusia pilih malaysia..

1)negara kita aman damai sentosa xde gempa bumi.cuma banjir kilat.

2)banyak kos boleh dijimatkan.penghantaran mampu disiapkan dengan cepat.

3)rasa aku malaysia paling besar dan selamat utk diduduki kat Asia tenggara kan?


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you mean Kirov Airline??  hmm.gif

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LOL

ko nak cakap jet "top-secret" ni ke?? sah ko ni peminat anime Macross.. hahaha

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tapi SUKHOI memang ada kaitan dengan Israel terutama dalam pembinaan avionic system dia.. mungkin sebab tu Russia pilih nak jadikan Malaysia tempat buat komponen2 jet diaorang supay dunia Islam beli jet-jet pejuang diaorang (business tetap business).. masa pembinaan jet pejuang SUKHOI versi Malaysia SUKHOI SU-30MKM yang diasaskan dari SUKHOI SU-30MKI milik India yang dikatakan sistem dia menghampiri SUKHOI SU35BM.. Malaysia p minta buang semua benda yang Israel buat tu ganti dengan pilihan yang TUDM mahu dari seluruh dunia.. tu sebab jet tu jadi mahal.

jet pejuang sebelah Russia pun ada komponen yang Israel buat, jet pejuang sebelah USA pun ada komponen yang Israel buat.. memang tak boleh lari punya, ilmu fizik Yahudi ni memang hebat hingga suatu ketika dulu telah teruk melemahkan semangat orang Jerman, tu pasal si Adolf Hitler p bunuh semua yahudi, bakar semua buku2 yahudi dan perkenalkan ilmu fizik jerman sendiri yang kita boleh rasa kesan di sekarang yang telah menjadikan jerman kuasa kejuruteraan terhebat di dunia dan juga kuasa ekonomi #1 di eropah, BOSCH, AUDI, MERCEDES-BENZ, PORSCHE, BMW semuanya dahsyat.. seluruh dunia kalau nak buat kereta dahsyat mesti diaorang p test dekat trek "Green Hell" Nurburgring di Jerman.. sirkit2 F1 yang dahsyat2 pun orang Jerman gak yang buat.

melainkan kita p bina jet pejuang sendiri, tak ada la komponen2 dari Israel tu.. dan benda tu sudah tidak lama, Malaysia akan buat komponen2 tu di Sungkai, Perak!  icon_idea.gif .. orang Russia kata pada pak Arab "ya le le le.. mari beli jet pejuang kami.. 100% halal"  laugh.gif

dulu Israel pernah lawan serentak negara2 Arab dalam perang 6 hari dengan Egypt/Mesir, Jordan, Syria, Iraq.
manakala Arab Saudi, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco  dan Algeria beri bekalan ketenteraan.. habis semua negara arab ni kalah teruk dengan Israel!!!

ISRAEL MENANG LAWAN DENGAN NEGARA2 ARAB TU TANPA SEBIJIK PUN JET PEJUANG DIAORANG JATUH!!! dah diaorang gak buat komponen2 dalam jet2 pejuang Arab yang kebanyakannya dari Russia tu.. beli dari USA pun sama gak, komponen dalam dia Israel gak yang buat.. lagipun masa tu pak2 Arab ni pandang ringan sistem AEW&C (yang fungsi dia seperti hidu musuh dan bagitau jet2 pejuang sendiri secepat mungkin.. semacam command centre di atas angkasa tu, dengan boleh arahkan jet-jet pejuang sendiri bergerak dalam perkiraan matematik, strategi yang telah ditetapkan).. Israel p bom command centre pak2 Arab kat atas bumi atau ajak p main belakang bukit ke atau main pada ketinggian amat tinggi, jet2 pejuang pak2 arab ni sudah jadi buta hilang arah terus.. sebab tu aku selalu kata kalau malaysia nak kukuhkan sistem pertahanan udara kita.. kita mesti ada sistem AEW&C sendiri tapi nak beli tu mak aiii mahal sungguh berbillion RM harga dia sebijik!..

Singapura sekarang pakai sistem AEW&C sebijik yang Israel pakai masa perang Israel dengan pak2 Arab tu.. lagipun tau2 je la perancang utama sistem pertahanan Singapura didatangkan khas dari Israel.. Lee Kuan Yew panggil diaorang nih "Mexican", tak mau Malaysia dan Indonesia syak kedatangan diaorang.. tapi lama kelamaan tau juga la.

ni fakta video masa Israel lawan ramai sungguh pak arab yang semuanya kalah teruk tanpa sebijik pun jet pejuang Israel terhempas!

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well done buddy..tell us more..inetersted in yr stories. more facts..

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well done buddy..tell us more..inetersted in yr stories. more facts..
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RUSSIAN said they want to sell the SUKHOI PAK FA 5th generation jet fighters to 1/3 of the world! crazy!!
(sah kilang IRKUT dekat Perak, Malaysia jadi kilang dia ni nak tampung permintaan tinggi)


back-to-back video comparison Russian SUKHOI PAK FA vs USA F22 Raptor.. overall Russian SUKHOI PAK FA win!


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hackline r u sure israel didt lose any aircraft coz i read in wiki they lost like 90+ but mostly from accidents+mechanical failure but according to israel report they only claim 20+ were shot down

but the arab lost like 400+ aircrafts mostly were destroyed before they flew lolz
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I dont think sg has any carriers yet and I think they will be hard pressed to actually be allowed to acquire F35s so early in the program even if there is any spare factory capacity. Not long ago US just green lighted the sale of F16 to Taiwan, that also has taken their congress to fully say yes first.  I will not be so easy
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SG joined into the F-35 research and development, so they have very much right to own so.
The US congress has no problems selling to their closest ally in the SEA.

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Just wondering who is Malaysia's threat(s) if we were to go to war?
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Just look a little bit closer and be more aware with your surrounding,
We are not to safe as you think!


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RUSSIAN said they want to sell the SUKHOI PAK FA 5th generation jet fighters to 1/3 of the world! crazy!!
(sah kilang IRKUT dekat Perak, Malaysia jadi kilang dia ni nak tampung permintaan tinggi)


back-to-back video comparison Russian SUKHOI PAK FA vs USA F22 Raptor.. overall Russian SUKHOI PAK FA win!


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Pak-Fa wont be ready for at least 10 years.
And if they do ready, I would like to see Indian version of Pak-Fa

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hackline r u sure israel didt lose any aircraft coz i read in wiki they lost like 90+ but mostly from accidents+mechanical failure but according to israel report they only claim 20+ were shot down

but the arab lost like 400+ aircrafts  mostly were destroyed before they flew lolz
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why russia choose to invest in malaysia?...kinda curious...
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why russia choose to invest in malaysia?...kinda curious...
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Maybe the fact that Malaysia is surrounding by other user country!
South we got Indon, to the north we got Vietnam and China while at the west we got India!
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More Jobs In Malaysia

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why russia choose to invest in malaysia?...kinda curious...
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i think among the reasons are
1) Malaysia have most of the resources, materials to build jet fighters
2) Malaysia involved in a very unique project SUKHOI SU-30MKM which gather all the best avionic system in this world
3) Malaysia also involved in F1 which study about very advance aerodynamics system and will build own very advance wind tunnel system
4) Malaysia geographically located between West power and East power, #1 most important sea route.. as two big Russia ally China and India which involved in alot of Russia joint military project will definitely use this sea route
5) Malaysian company CTRM before this got expertise in making jets and aeropalane components and managed to build Malaysia very own UAV system
6) Malaysia have a very strong link with super engineering power the German (look at how PETRONAS joint venture with BMW and MERCEDES) and also Japan which is superb in electronic and artificial intelligence system, Japan's company is #1 investor in Malaysia, it is more easy to get the electronic components from them in Malaysia.
7) before this Israel newspaper said Iran want to order 250 SUKHOI SU-30MKM type of jet fighters very very soon.. Russia must meet their customer demand.. even for Malaysia 18 SUKHOI jet fighters project, it take years to complete.. can you imagine a customer order about 250 jet fighters and want it as soon as possible?
8) Russia want to sell as much as they can the SUKHOI PAK FA to the whole world, they need factory to meet their aim
9) Russian promised to Malaysia to help Malaysia large scale rocket project, own space project, together with Japan (MITSUBISHI).. as the jet fighters technology is very related to rocket technology, the knowledge gain by the locals can be use for the next big mega project
10) Russia consider Malaysia as friendly country (Russian ally), before this ex-Russia President Vladimir Putin even come down to Malaysia to discuss about Malaysia-Russia military and economic opportunity between each country
11) and the most important it is win-win deal to both country.. we need their expertise, while they want to generate profit from the deal

MALAYSIA + RUSSIA : projek mega jet pejuang generasi ke-5 + roket perang


cannot use "Its All About Us" song from Russia ka?? cry.gif
because of that i upload it in sharebee for high quality view and definitely have sound : http://sharebee.com/f47788ea

Its All About Us (lyrics)
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If they hurt you
They hurt me too
So we'll rise up
Won't stop
And it's all about
It's all about us


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 27 2010, 11:51 AM)
Maybe the fact that Malaysia is surrounding by other user country!
South we got Indon, to the north we got Vietnam and China while at the west we got India!
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somehow it is really true! and all of them will go to Malaysia to do maintenance also! rclxms.gif

we just put ourself in a very important world map of aviation industry..

we are heading to the right direction to be the new engineering super power, the F1 project and now the jet fighter projects..
next maybe war tank and industry heavy machine!! we must strengthen our education system especially in math and physics to cope with the fast world
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another way of money waste....as if malaysia goona win in any war...
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Apr 27 2010, 12:07 PM)
i think among the reasons are
1) Malaysia have most of the resources, materials to build jet fighters
2) Malaysia involved in a very unique project SUKHOI SU-30MKM which gather all the best avionic system in this world
3) Malaysia also involved in F1 which study about very advance aerodynamics system and will build own very advance wind tunnel system
4) Malaysia geographically located between West power and East power, #1 most important sea route.. as two big Russia ally China and India which involved in alot of Russia joint military project will definitely use this sea route
5) Malaysian company CTRM before this got expertise in making jets and aeropalane components and managed to build Malaysia very own UAV system
6) Malaysia have a very strong link with super engineering power the German (look at how PETRONAS joint venture with BMW and MERCEDES) and also Japan which is superb in electronic and artificial intelligence system, Japan's company is #1 investor in Malaysia, it is more easy to get the electronic components from them in Malaysia.
7) before this Israel newspaper said Iran want to order 250 SUKHOI SU-30MKM type of jet fighters very very soon.. Russia must meet their customer demand.. even for Malaysia 18 SUKHOI jet fighters project, it take years to complete.. can you imagine a customer order about 250 jet fighters and want it as soon as possible?
8) Russia want to sell as much as they can the SUKHOI PAK FA to the whole world, they need factory to meet their aim
9) Russian promised to Malaysia to help Malaysia large scale rocket project, own space project, together with Japan (MITSUBISHI).. as the jet fighters technology is very related to rocket technology, the knowledge gain by the locals can be use for the next big mega project
10) Russia consider Malaysia as friendly country (Russian ally), before this ex-Russia President Vladimir Putin even come down to Malaysia to discuss about Malaysia-Russia military and economic opportunity between each country
11) and the most important it is win-win deal to both country.. we need their expertise, while they want to generate profit from the deal
The real reason why the choose Malaysia as opposed to India or elsewhere is because we are willing to pay the Russians the most for the privilege of hosting their factory.

Paying either by giving tax incentives, investing in the company, giving cheap palm oil, agreeing to pay a premium for the jets, or a combination of all these.
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The real reason why the choose Malaysia as opposed to India or elsewhere is because we are willing to pay the Russians the most for the privilege of hosting their factory.

Paying either by giving tax incentives, investing in the company, giving cheap palm oil, agreeing to pay a premium for the jets, or a combination of all these.
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all of the thing you said is to boost the Foreign Direct Investment (FDI)

about the palm-oil business between MALAYSIA-RUSSIA.. Russia now consume 2.5x more this year than last year, it is very huge demand in Russia market currently.. Malaysia can save alot of money and do the barter trade (palm oil with Russia) if we want to buy the Russian latest weapon system or even make advance technology transfer between Malaysia and Russia

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Commenting on palm products, he said palm oil had been recognised and accepted by Russian consumers over the last 10 years.

He added that palm oil consumption in Russia had gone up from just over 150,000 tonnes per annum to almost 500,000 tonnes currently.

“It is very encouraging to note that palm oil fits into the oils and fats market in Russia by complementing its (Russia) successful sunflower oil industry,” he said.

In 2009, Malaysia produced 17.56 million tonnes, or 43.7%, of the total palm oil production and exported 15.9 million tonnes, or 45% of world palm exports.

Malaysia is the main supplier of palm oil for the Russian market. Last year, Malaysian palm oil exports to Russia stood at 210,809 tonnes with export value of about US$150mil.

“While the volume is not big, we acknowledge the importance of Russia as our palm oil trading partners especially as a hub to the other CIS (Commonwealth of Independent States) countries,” Dompok said

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CTRM, the Malaysian partner in the A400M programme, delivered its first A400M work package last July consisting of the Vertical Tail Plane Trailing Edge made up of 19 composite parts. This was swiftly followed by the delivery of the other two work packages - Vertical Tail Plane Leading Edge and Horizontal Tail Plane Trailing Edge - in mid September and October 2006, respectively. The assembly of the Vertical Tail Plane and Horizontal Tail Plane has started with delivery to the FAL beginning of 2007.

The first complete empennage consisting of the Vertical and Horizontal Tailplanes (VTP and HTP) is in the final stages of assembly. Consisting of an 11 x 9 metre vertical fin and a 67sq metre horizontal stabiliser, the all-composite empennage incorporates components manufactured by CTRM, Airbus Military’s programme partner in Malaysia. The A400M’s empennage will be the biggest T-tail structure yet incorporated into a European transport aircraft.
Integration of the first VTP is taking place in Stade, Germany, where the rudder has been assembled and trials with a dummy HTP have been carried out. Four more VTPs are being equipped and a further three are in production.
Two HTPs have now been produced at the Tablada facility near Seville. One is undergoing tests at the FAL, the other being sent to Getafe to join the other elements of A/C 5000 in the static test rig.


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why russia choose to invest in malaysia?...kinda curious...
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sory to dig this old thread but there some Q really need to answered

why russia choose malaysia as the only Irkut facility(after India) outside Russia?
coz till now Malaysia is the best customer they got..we have the money/goods to barter & we always pay accordingly to what they expect

not like Indawg(dont have much money & even asking for payment facilities) & china(like to copycat the Irkut's design) which by far is the worst customer they got

its all bout gaining respect from those Russian dude

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ini CKD factory

engine suma direct dari motherland
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bro of cozlah Russian will not give away their engine technologies
even big SU30 operator like India also use Russian original engine coz they still dont have the technology to match russia's original engine performance...even China with their locally built J-10 airframe still using Russian engine & say "no" to their own local engine coz their Shenyang WS-10 engine are still just piece of shit

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new plant equivalent to new export market(since its the manufacturer themselves pledged to manufacture it not directly 3rt party)

oh mai
now those indon Su27SKM must beg us for their Sukhoi parts!
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why senyap je citer Sukhoi plant ni?
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sukhoi dont need plant in malaysia..the secret sukhoi underground plant in the urals mountains is still operational
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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Apr 24 2010, 08:28 PM)
Habis lah Sukhoi quality will drop 20%.
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later they change the parts to 60% local material...
low cost...
and low quality..
sukhoi is another proton in the making.. hahahaha

sorry to all proton fans.. just joking.. ironically im using proton too
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i support this project. FDI masuk. then its ok.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 2 2010, 02:35 PM)
why senyap je citer Sukhoi plant ni?
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already under progress la ankel!
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it take time to build the plant...
for now there is no plan of making jet fighter here...
it more on spare part plant...
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It's just some lousy spare part plant, and they already go hoohaa. Not like give Malaysia License produce Sukhoi plane. Really jakun la them....
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It's just some lousy spare part plant, and they already go hoohaa. Not like give Malaysia License produce Sukhoi plane. Really jakun la them....
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it also a service center for sukhoi and for other russian plane as well IINM...
anyway it should bring alot of new technology to malaysia...
about building Sukhoi plane; it will be included in the future...

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malaysia buat diam2 je.....tau2 je dh siap

Indon kecoh satu dunia nk beli F16 Block 25 24bijik 2nd-hand--yg dh metal fatigue dekat 20thn,,hahahahaha
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malaysia buat diam2 je.....tau2 je dh siap

Indon kecoh satu dunia nk beli F16 Block 25 24bijik  2nd-hand--yg dh metal fatigue dekat 20thn,,hahahahaha
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lah block 25 rupenye. kat kaskus, ade yg kata block 52. kaskus mmg terer putar alam je
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lah block 25 rupenye. kat kaskus, ade yg kata block 52. kaskus mmg terer putar alam je
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they been given option to get free 24 F-16 or to buy 6 new F-16
i think it more like a business ploy for the americans...
it give malaysia government reason to buy SH... laugh.gif
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This is good in terms of maintainence of our SU-30s. the biggest problem that plague our MIGs is the difficulties in acquiring spare parts. The Russian are proven to be unreliable in this area. I've been suggesting this for quite sometime.
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This is good in terms of maintainence of our SU-30s. the biggest problem that plague our MIGs is the difficulties in acquiring spare parts. The Russian are proven to be unreliable in this area. I've been suggesting this for quite sometime.
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NO news till now ?

which part of Perak would be best .. the current Ipoh airport is smack in the middle of a high end housing estate....

Thou there's a small industrial area near to it placing Carsem(semi con factory - also have mil grade facility) , jet fighter's parts would be more complex and big to build, usually the facility is build close to an airport to ease shipment or to prepare service facility and alsoon-flight test


Added on January 28, 2011, 10:04 amOr lumut is good place to start is a booming area for TUDM , have an existing present of Military market there....

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NO news till now ?

which part of Perak  would be best .. the current Ipoh airport is smack in the middle of a high end housing estate....

Thou there's a small industrial area near to it placing Carsem(semi con factory - also have mil grade facility) , jet fighter's parts would be more complex and big to build, usually the facility is build close to an airport to ease shipment or to prepare service facility and alsoon-flight test


Added on January 28, 2011, 10:04 amOr lumut is good place to start is a booming area for TUDM , have an existing present of Military market there....
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Pusat industri pertahanan pertama negara mampu raih RM15.3 BILLION

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Jan. - Kerajaan yakin pusat industri pertahanan pertama negara yang bakal dibangunkan di Sungkai, Perak, mampu meraih jumlah pelaburan bernilai RM15.3 bilion dalam masa lima tahun selepas ia mula beroperasi pada 2014.

Menteri Pertahanan, Datuk Seri Dr. Ahmad Zahid Hamidi berkata, keyakinan itu berdasarkan jangkaan awal jumlah pelaburan bagi tahun pertama iaitu sebanyak RM3.3 bilion ekoran minat mendalam yang ditunjukkan oleh syarikat pertahanan antarabangsa.

"Ia satu komitmen antarabangsa dan setakat ini penglibatan syarikat-syarikat pertahanan dari Eropah, Amerika Utara, Korea Selatan dan Jepun memperlihatkan petanda yang baik. Jangkaan awal jumlah pelaburan sebanyak AS$ 1 bilion (RM3.3 bilion) akan dapat dilihat dalam waktu terdekat.

"Bagi tempoh lima tahun pertama, kita sasar pelaburan berjumlah AS$ 5 bilion (RM15.3 bilion) sebaik syarikat multinasional mula melabur,"
katanya selepas menyaksikan perjanjian persefahaman antara Masterplan Consulting Sdn. Bhd. dengan Blenheim Capital di sini hari ini.

Perjanjian persefahaman antara Masterplan dan syarikat pertahanan dari United Kingdom (UK) itu bagi membangunkan pusat industri pertahanan tempatan di kawasan seluas 480 hektar, agar ia berupaya memacu sektor berkenaan sekali gus meletakkan Malaysia sebagai hab pertahanan ASEAN.

Hadir sama ialah Panglima Tentera Darat, Jeneral Datuk Seri Zulkifeli Mohd. Zin; Panglima Tentera Laut, Laksamana Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar; Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Masterplan, Datuk Ahmad Faris Abdul Halim dan Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Blenheim, Grant Rogan.

Mengulas lanjut, Ahmad Zahid berkata, kos bagi membangunkan pusat industri pertahanan itu berjumlah RM6 bilion dan dijangka, kerja-kerja pembinaan akan dilaksanakan selepas operasi kerja tanah dimulakan pertengahan tahun depan.

Sementara itu, Rogan berkata, beliau yakin dengan potensi Sungkai untuk menjadi pusat industri serta hab pertahanan serantau memandangkan semua pihak yang terlibat dalam menjayakan projek tersebut mempunyai komitmen jitu.

Katanya, Blenheim dengan kerjasama Masterplan akan berusaha sebaik mungkin bagi menarik minat syarikat pertahanan terkemuka Eropah dan Amerika Syarikat (AS) untuk melabur dalam pelbagai segmen pertahanan dalam masa terdekat.

Dalam perkembangan lain, Ahmad Zahid berkata, pengurangan peruntukan untuk Kementerian Pertahanan kepada RM9.1 bilion tahun ini, berbanding RM9.8 bilion tahun lepas tidak akan menjejaskan operasi kementerian dalam menjaga kepentingan dan keselamatan negara.

Ahmad Zahid berkata, biarpun tanpa pembelian sebarang aset baru tahun ini, pihaknya akan melakukan beberapa pembangunan terhadap operasi berdasarkan kemampuan kewangan yang ada.

Sebagai contoh katanya, kementerian akan melaksanakan program penghayatan semula ke atas inventori pelbagai jenis peluru dalam perkhidmatan termasuk yang melibatkan aset sensitif seperti peluru berpandu.

"Menyedari hakikat belanjawan tahun ini dikurangkan, tentu sekali ia akan menjadi kekangan kepada aktiviti yang sudah dirancang namun ia tidak akan dapat mengurangkan daya juang serta daya saing pasukan pertahanan kita," katanya selepas menghadiri majlis Perhimpunan Bulanan Kementerian Pertahanan di sini hari ini.

Hadir sama pada majlis itu Timbalan Menteri Pertahanan, Datuk Dr. Abdul Latif Ahmad; Ketua Setiausaha kementerian, Datuk Dr. Ismail Ahmad; Panglima Angkatan Tentera (ATM), Jeneral Tan Sri Azizan Ariffin serta ketiga-ketiga panglima daripada perkhidmatan tentera laut, darat dan udara.

sumber : http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...ri&pg=dn_21.htm

b3ta boleh masuk bagi komen.. lol

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nice la...just dun make spareparts and engine theft cases happen.
intel and amd open factory here, 2,3 years must have one theft cases...fffffuuuu

this is military tech, more dangerous.ffffffuuuu
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wont build in Msia...so many ppl want profit..
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any new news on this shukoi factory in marehsia?
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if russia vs america in ww3,america gonna bomb malaysia?
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if russia vs america in ww3,america gonna bomb malaysia? ,, wat if the russian bomb american first? have u ever thought of that?


Added on February 21, 2012, 3:22 pmanyway.. more towards topic that make sense; i thought malaysia wanted to buy eurofighter typhoon instead? for reason kept secret anyway


Added on February 21, 2012, 3:35 pmanyway.. i do hope in future we would have the capacity to build parts and probably and more arms. the local made riffle we produce was such a waste of money and time. . it would have cut alot of cost in the budget if it had done rite.. would also b nice if we eventually would have attack helicopter specially the gunship type.

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So any news on this hxline...its an old story but its a good reading..tq.

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cheaper for Msia buy the Russia fighter
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