Also cos it's a Samsung.

I wet my pants liao. Getting one!!!

Still worth it... if they don't have unforseen annoyance like the NEX. Strange huh?.. Fuji is suddenly cool again.

But no "quick menu" thing?

Fujinon is cool... Finepix wasn't cool

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...l&prev=_t&twu=1

Aiks!! Focus on 3D instead of coming out with an improved "GF-2"

Yeah... like improving GF1's high ISO performance etc but NOOOOO... they go waste their time with 3D lens (this is a serious WTF) and coming out with mini-dslr's.

No offence to the G and GH owners here but despite the minute size difference, I don't think it makes sense for them to compete head-on with Canon and Nikon.

Why lar Panny so degil... they cannot avoid getting gangr@ped by the canon/nikon/sony combo.

Why not just concentrate on something that have sell point... like the GF form factor.

Last 2 weeks I've visited a few touristy cities in Europe.. I've seen a variety of cameras.... even some Pentax ... I've seen NEX's, PEN's and the GF's but never see their mini-me-wannabe-dslr's also.

So why bother? I seriously don't understand the appeal of a bonzai-dslr... for a bit more weight and size.. might as well just get a consumer canikony model. Bigger sensor... a lot of lens.... more pro look (since a dslr-like device already automatically not stealthy)

At least Samsung snapped out of it early and don't degil.


ps: I'm just spewing crap.. please don't get offended and do enlighten me on the appeal of bonzai-dslr's. Might have missed something.

40fps only on reduced size files leh.

My dream "GF2" is for:

- Keep the GH2 internal... at least nice and tidy ISO1600 ler.
- Chop off the GH2 EVF module... or maybe as an option to replace that GF1 EVF
- Chop off the grip.
- Simplify the tilty screen like the NEX so we can all shoot Hasselblad style.

- Panasonic should save cost and not to try impressing their customer that they know how to spell... "Lumix, GF1, "L" logo, HD, AVCHD Lite ( <-- this one is really WTF.. why would anybody say it's LITE.. it's like wearing a t-shirt saying that "I got a small banana". If add the EVF... then ANOTHER LUMIX logo... and all this is only on the front of the camera. This is important.

- Also that MEGA OIS in red from the lens. What's wrong with just OIS or OIS 2? Why have to go from OIS to Super OIS to MEGA OIS? What's next? Super Duper MEGA ULTRA OIS?

- Keep the design clean without chrome-y bling bling stuff. Easier for them to re-badge and sell to Leica also that way.

--end rant

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Sep 28 2010, 02:01 AM

More interested in this line --> 1) Mr.Kitao says they can design compact MicroFourThirds smaller than the Sony NEX cameras!

And despite my beef with Sony, its actually impressive that a 200lbs gorilla like Sony hears the feedback and are making effort to improve their NEX interface via firmware rather than fookin everyone up and release new product.

Right now ... a NEX + CV 35mm looks mighty tempting.

We're talking about how Panasonic should get off their butt and come out with a GF1 replacement soonest possible before they get completely tarpau'ed kau kau instead of bonzai-dslr's.

Depend on what you what sort of picture you want to take.. if unsure... 14-45mm gives you a reasonably large zoom range and image stabilization.

The 20mm pancake is much faster for low light but its a prime lens (no zoom) and no image stabilization. It's the best choice for folks who knows exactly what they want.

Another sign that Panny is lost

Wah Lau.. this sony thing really spoil market. GF1+20mm (japan goods) price already drop until price match the NEX3+pancake liao.

OH NO!!!! They're gonna farkup the GF2

sauce: http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-no-new-16-mega...-panasonic-gf2/

I don't think many people buy GH2's lor?
Panasonic make all those bonzai-dslr to syiok sendiri only.

By far, GF1 is still Panny's best selling M43... though its getting raped as of late.

Amazon Top 100 ranking:
http://www.dslrphoto.com/dslr/space.php?do=ranking

Some tok kok here... *look into crystal ball*

Panasonic is first and foremost consumer electronic company.. with a side business of making cameras so I think they're gonna just go for the marketing hoohah and make the GF2 a tiny camera to beat the NEX in size. Since they're stuck with m4/3 sensor... they have the size advantage. What remains to be seen is whether they'll go as far as removing the pop-up flash.

Anyone used those voightlander optical viewfinders?

It's not weird really... I'm using both a Canon 550D and S90 though the latter is used less and less these days due to the lack of image quality. Don't get me wrong... the S90 (and I suppose the S95/LX5) are great compacts but no matter what, they're still compacts.

I don't own a m43 system but have been lusting for one for a long time and have extensive played with E-PL1 and GF1. They are of course better than the S90 but not significantly enough to justify the size diff imo.

E-PL1 advantage is it has slightly better noise control over the GF1 and in body stabilisation but it feels like a toy... and imho, the control sucks... no dials at all. Even the NEX has a scroll thingy

GF1 on the other hand feels much better, comes with the classic 20mm f1.7 (and in the grey market goods in taiwan is only priced at ~RM1.7K!!!) but the iso800 on it look worse than ISO3200 on my 550D

So for me, I opted to wait for:

- Upcoming GF2 to see if they can improve the noise part.
- Zeiss prime for Sony NEX.. should cost a bomb though
- Fuji X100.

m43 is definately > high end compacts

Question is how much more better considering that you have to still sacrifice size. You can keep the S90/S95 inside jeans pocket but m43's still require you to bring a bag.

Yeah... if sell off the pancake.. the body only RM600