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Photography Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V2, Panasonic G/GH/GFx & Olympus E-P/E-PLx

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post May 25 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 25 2010, 03:52 PM)
get 550D. I saw the picture at 6400 ISO and it's the awesomeness...
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Ja.. I saw the poison as well.. Just that a "proper" dslr doesn't fit into my travel bag.

samurai1337: Can you survive with just the pancake all day?
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post May 25 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(bobds78 @ May 25 2010, 04:41 PM)
actually got a good deal for 2k. then separately bought pany 20mm for 1.4k. Cant go wrong with this
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Wait a sec... u got ur E-P2 for 2K niah? WTF? It's like ~RM3K here with single lense kit and w/o EVF.
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post May 26 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 26 2010, 05:16 PM)
hi there...single kit lens ranging from 2099 to 2399 depending how you nego... and the package...
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That is SO cheap compared to the phailed pricing strategy Oly have here.
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post May 31 2010, 01:18 AM

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Guys.. just curious how come not many folks here using GH1 or G2?
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post May 31 2010, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ May 31 2010, 01:48 AM)
My 2 cents

GH1:
Because it resembles DSLR, and most of the m43 adopters prefer a range-finder styled camera. And it's relatively expensive, might as well go for Nikon D90 / Canon 550D. No doubt, it's image quality and high ISO handling is a class above other m43 cameras though tongue.gif

G2:
Same reason as GH1, and plus I'm not too sure if it's widely available yet
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In Taiwan.... GH1 price fall until cheaper than E-PL1. Like that worth it ker?
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post May 31 2010, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 31 2010, 08:50 AM)
GH1 must buy with 14-140mm which cost around RM6k. No one is going to spend that much on non-dSLR camera...
Well, G2 is still new and I agree with samurai that G2 is like dSLR and might as well go for real dSLR...
I pretty much disagree with your ISO handling for GH1. As for now, Olympus E-PL1 ISO handling is the best among all dSLR... unless I read wrongly tongue.gif
[fanboy mode]
Since this is m43 thread, the answer is m43 totally beat 550D, NX10 and NEX. The reason is because m43 ISO performance beat dSLR such as Nikon D3000
and from earlier review, NEX lenses have serious serious problem with abberation chromatic etc... while NX10 is totally not accepted by photography community
because a lot of people think Samsung only do washing machine...
[/fanboy mode]


Added on May 31, 2010, 8:50 am
really bor? OMG!!!! GH1 cheaper than E-PL1? How much is GH1 there?
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The current situation... these are all "market price" not RRP ya.

GH1 + 14-45mm kit --> NT22,900
GH1 + 14-140mm kit --> NT33,900
GH1 + pancake --> NT23,900
GF1 + pancake --> NT21,900

These are all Japan import. HK import more expensive by NT2000-3000

Oly only got Taiwan goods here (Oly is so freakin expensive here).

E-PL1 zoom kit --> NT24,900
E-P1 kit --> ~NT30,000
E-P2 kit (14-42mm without EVF) --> ~ NT30,000

NEX5 2 lens kit --> NT26,900
NEX5 pancake --> NT20,980
NEX5 zoom kit --> NT22,980

550D 18-55mm kit --> NT29,980 (If Japan import branded KISS X4... around ~NT3000 less )


So... to summarise.... Oly over-priced here... Panny makes sense.. just the m43 sensor size.. NEX makes sense (2 lens kit and case closed)... just the lack of buttons and underwhelming lens. 550D is heavy and biggest black black hole potential since it'll scream for better lenses.

As for the Samsung.. korean eat dogs so I dun consider them tongue.gif

So decision's really a biatch.

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post May 31 2010, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 31 2010, 10:01 AM)
ok, I will be less fanboy mode here.

m43 is small. But its not small as your s90. So u still won't bring m43 everywhere like s90. in the end, u'll just bring s90
everywhere while using m43 for more serious photography.

but if that's the case, why not got go for 550D? I really think u should go for 550D.

Well, next is NEX. I think lack of button is not an issue. Lens underwhelm is an issue.

To me, 550D to u is the best. NEX since its smaller than m43 with wideangle 16mm, I think its better.

Ur choice would likely be NEX or 550D... unless of course, u like m43 because of Olympus for Image Stabilizer... tongue.gif
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Yeah.. I love compacts to death for the carry everywhere capability... especially the S90 and frankly, I'm considering getting another camera mainly because of samurai1337's poisonous flikr!!!! vmad.gif

However, the size also cannot be too big cos the only time that I really have for tangkap gambar is on biz trips etc ... and for these, I cannot pack a dslr.


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post Jun 6 2010, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Wuahaha @ Jun 5 2010, 09:55 AM)
That is expensive bro ... you can check those people selling at LYF, the price for GF1+20mm kit is below Rm3150. Some even got below Rm3k icon_idea.gif
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E-P1 and E-P2 how muchie in Malaysia?
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post Jun 7 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Wuahaha @ Jun 6 2010, 09:22 PM)
Bro, searched from Trade Zone -> Garage Sales -> Notebooks, PDAs & Cameras

EP-1 14-42MM Lens = RM2350
EP-1 TWIN LENS(14-42MM &17MM) = RM3050
EP-2 17MM PANCAKE LENS = RM3150
E-P2 14-42 Kit = RM3150
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1320155

hmm.gif Why ask ?
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Saw that post about GF1 going for 3K+ ... and now that you say that the EP-1 is going for RM2.35K

It's exactly the oppossite prices here in Taiwan rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Jun 7 2010, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Wuahaha @ Jun 7 2010, 10:09 AM)
I just search the prices posting on this forum, Olympus really cut price a lot compared to Panny. hmm.gif

Is it expensive over there? How much they cost in Taiwan? sweat.gif
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Over here its the opposite... speaking in terms of both official and grey import goods.

All the Panny m43's potong price like hell... GF1 for example drop to around NT23K (RM2.3K)

But all the Oly stuff... price steady.. no drop. Tak logic wan.

E-PL1 - ~ RM2.5K
EP1 kit - ~RM2.8K
EP2 kit no EVF - ~ RM3K
EP2 kit+EVF - ~ RM3.9K
EOS 550D - ~ RM2.9K

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post Jun 10 2010, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(ae8za @ Jun 10 2010, 10:20 PM)
Hi everyone,
Leaving the Olympus and M4/3rd world to focus on my DSLR. Great sharing info with you Guys all these while... Ciao and cheers...
P.s- Selling my Ollie gears in MC and PM for those who wanted cheap MINT stuff... Bye Guys... smile.gif
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How come? Care to share?
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post Jun 11 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(frequency @ Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM)
ae8za  selling Oly 17mm pancake with VF-1 @ RM800

a good price

But I am kind of confuse....why do we need VF for 17mm?
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Ol skool gaya-ness mar... using VF. tongue.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(frequency @ Jun 13 2010, 10:19 PM)
olympus
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but not padded
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Actually the bag looks not bad huh. Pity about the PEN logo's though
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post Jun 15 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(DjKenji @ Jun 15 2010, 02:16 AM)
user posted image

Anyone know where could i get this black body leatherette skin within KL area?
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OMG... this pic is so giler sexxy wub.gif wub.gif
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post Jun 18 2010, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(D@Ne @ Jun 18 2010, 04:44 PM)
Oyes, it does attracts a lot of attention when i'm just hanging it around my neck when wandering in Phnom Penh for some street shot. A group of young female student approached me to check out my chest (oops! I mean my E-P2 with EV2)  tongue.gif
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Damn... poison!!
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post Jun 30 2010, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 29 2010, 11:43 PM)
Yeah, I have to agree. E-P2 is better if need VF-2 or other accesories might use the port...
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Silver E-P2 la best ... eventhough I've succumbed to the darkside.. still lust for a E-P2 sad.gif
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post Jun 30 2010, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 30 2010, 11:09 AM)
which darkside you go? NEX? haha
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DSLR la.... NEX side is ghey side tongue.gif

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post Jun 30 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 30 2010, 01:48 PM)
Remember I ask you to get dSLR? No regret right?
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No regret... if I bankrupt myself from buying lenses and then terjun building... I come back to haunt you ok? tongue.gif
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post Jul 1 2010, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jul 1 2010, 02:49 PM)
yes you are right..the noise is there and i always wish for a FF type of sensor in a m43 type of body...any manufacturer come out first i will buy it!!
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Come come buy

http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m9/
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post Jul 1 2010, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 1 2010, 05:32 PM)
CCD sensor phailed liao.. must be more noisy than Olympus LiveMOS lol...

Proof:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...99&changemode=1
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On any other camera... those grainy stuff = noise... on a Leica ... it is character tongue.gif

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