yup. IB definitely will kill off SB-E if not these problem.

What to do... BD fail . And it's really disappointed me. Even Phenom X6 can perform better. I know the benchmark can't be see in real gaming situation but I also planning for hackingtosh. Just wonder it will work with the latest hardware. And I want to test play with Intel. I try to hold off my intention and wait for next BD but the price sure expensive. And I'm even think of change to better CPU to ease my my feeling. I'm AMD fan boy but now fan boy won't bring you anything good. Haha... Why? You not agree? Mind to tell why? All I can see is, If I migrate to Intel, I will spend around RM 1170 for Extreme 4 and i5 3570k. Alternatively, buy a better AMD CPU, around 600, the rest I can buy SSD or better PSU. Nice idea or not? Haha...

My Phenom II is x2... Just unlocked to x4. This is the first time people advice me to stay for a while. Actually, I already thinking that wait until AM3+ is phase out but whenever I saw i5 2500k or 2570k benchmark, I jelly wo. I think I should wait for next AMD plan. Who know that they release something that on par or better then Intel in this year.

I don't think Intel will do that. IVB is mainstream product, not meant for overclocking in the first place. 

Wait for Haswell then. Sure will be better overclock friendly than Sandy Bridge. 

already confirmed AMD dropping out of the race with intel. they will now focus on mobile and thin client platform only. so forget about am3+ or am4 because it is not gonna happen.

low end market also cannot fight in price and performance. whats the point.?

Anyway this is intel thread,, stop talking about losing platform like AMD already.....lol

btw, want to ask intel users, the virtu lucid thing....does it really shutdown your discrete gpu to near 0 power usage when nt in use? Planning to
upgrade to Z77....rig will be on 24/7 for download also. Btw, there seems not much diference between Z68 and Z77? z68 cheaper wor...i am now eyeing that Asus VLX mobo. Around rm430.

Really can't discuss AMD here?   Yes Intel is better but is it wrong to discuss AMD here? Even in Red and Green camp, everyone are free to give opinion. 

if all of us take a deep breath, look at the topic, it clearly state that Intel LGA1155 sandy/ivy bridge. even it will look awkward if you discussing about pentium III socket 370 in this forum because the topic clearly said LGA1155. unless the topic just saying "intel", then you can mix up with other intel products, such as chipsets, lan card, graphic card and so on. but it still intel, so you cannot bring your own brand in the brand-specific thread/topic.

thats the reason why people create a specific topic, to avoid rojak content. i think you can raise up your die-hard brand obsession, but still you need to include a brand which include in the topic. for example, if you want to talk/compare amd chips with intel chips, you still need to mention about intel chips since this is intel chips' topic and more specific, intel LGA1155.

like epic idiom said: masuk kandang kambing mengembek. mbekkkk!

hahaha. do not enter goat farm and produce oink oink sound 

well.. i am not truly intel fan boy/die hard, but i agree, if you are in intel topic specifically, then stick with the topic. see what happened when some fan of some football team entering crowd of opponent team and making an havoc. 

Yup, I'm not just discuss about AMD but I compare AMD to LGA1155 Intel chipset. It's okay... Won't mention AMD here again Or maybe in this thread, you only allowed to suggest Intel even though if AMD perform better then Intel. Sudah2... Tutup cerita.

It doesn't need that many. In fact it is less efficient to have too many and number of VRMs in use will still be in the increasing order instead of using all VRMs at the same time with lower load. To some, it is nothing more than a marketing tool similar to more cores = more performance.

I want one PC only...previously doing just that...kepala pusing-pusing switching the monitor or remote access...sienz...now only want one PC. One PC to rule them all!!!

Btw, the E-350W can do 20W?? No lar...i3 is lowest...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...3-2100t_11.html

I am talking TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION at the wall...not just processor. I test with power meter at the wall socket.

based on what i know, cpu have 4 power phase. so 32 power phase are 4 phase times 8. every phase has "8 backup" phase.
what is your maximum electric charges you can afford to pay?
my system is 3770k + p8z77-v + 2 sticks of ram + ocz vertex 240G + 4 x 120mm fans and all parts generate around 25.2W when idle and light usage. add 24" led monitor which consume around 25-30W it will be 25.2+30 = 55W.

running 24/7. idling more than active 

processor itself when idling just consume around 3-5W. assuming it operate at its full load, it can consume around 100-120W.

my powersupply is 80%+ efficient, means if i am using 100W at a time, total power consumption of full load is around 120W and idling at 30W.

so the math will be; assuming i am idling 24hours a day and 30 days a month:
30W / 1000W x 0.28 x 24 x 30 = 6.048. thats right. just RM 6.05 for electrical bill a month.

assuming a pc is running at average load, just take 100W continous.
100 / 1000W x 0.28 x 24 x 30 = 20.16. too much? 

based on my monthly usage, i saw that i only use around RM10-12 a months. so average power consumption is around 55W.

power consumption is accurate. read froma  ViewPower UPS software & kill-a-watt meter.

thats what you think and read. think and read are not same with an experience.
my power consumption meter says it consume 25w++ of juice because i am not using discrete graphic card, with power saving features turned on such as eist, epu and so on. thats right. just 25w. unbelievable? believe it. 

plus, the consumption value taken when monitor turned off. add another 25w++ and it will be around 50-55, just like the "anand's review" says.

not sure price for other model. but IB 3770K RM1090-1100. 3770 RM935-945. it is damn high now.
I saw IB 3770K at Taiwan is NT10k end user price, around RM909. our distributor earn too much..

According to distributor, all intel processor gone up 

ASRock Z77 Extreme4. Not the cheapest board with that features but definitely one of the cheapest Z77 motherboards around. Any cheaper you'll have to get the older H67 chipset motherboard but a little bit limited if you have any intentions of overclocking.

Anyone using i5 3550? Can share what's the idle/load temp?
For our hot weather, is it better to just get a 3rd party HS/Fan so that it runs cooler?