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 Intel LGA1155 P67/Z68/Z77, Sandy/Ivy Bridge Architecture

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post Feb 2 2012, 10:07 AM

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if u take 2700K and compare with 3770K which is the same frequency the gap will be even smaller >_<
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post Feb 15 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 11 2012, 01:08 AM)
That's why LGA775 was the last true "great" platform Intel has built.
Everyone will get suckered into changing entire systems from now on... doh.gif
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It is because during that period Intel is an underdog.
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post Feb 19 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(commanderz @ Feb 19 2012, 04:30 PM)
using i5 2500k since 2010 until now....not planning to upgrade until 2014 or 2015
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Haswell will be out by 2013, then Skylake 2yrs after that.

I think somewhere said the absolute physical limit of silicon semiconductor is 10-11nm. So I guess I will be buying another cpu b4 they hit that wall and try some other new method.
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post Feb 21 2012, 05:08 PM

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1.3v on Ivy is = 1.4v on SB or not. Since technically for 24/7 one have to stay below 1.35v for SB.

never say about stock VID reach how far. Hard to judge the OC performance from ivy.
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post Feb 21 2012, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Feb 21 2012, 05:50 PM)
now thats some good result but is 1.1v stock VID? Still need info on stock VID OC, then we'll how far good Ivy is on 24/7 OC.

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QUOTE(laurelgt @ Feb 21 2012, 08:05 PM)
I was hoping that i can keep my 2500K for at least 2 years. But now , looking at what the IvyB is capable of , feels like thats not gonna happen. Cant wait for the full review and i'll start from there. smile.gif .
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If u aint buying the top model 3770k then it is not worth the upgrade, besides I also have 2500k I personally will wait intel about to come out Haswell then only upgrade my 2500k to Ivy bridge, because by then 22nm will be mature enough and Ivy bridge will have better stepping which much provide more OCability
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Feb 25 2012, 06:48 PM)
That's a suicide run. Most users even with watercooling should not exceed 1.4V max with IB.
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Pretty much, even I wouldn't dare to run SB pass 1.35v on air cooled situation. I assume the IB with finer process 22nm + only 77w tdp will have tighter max voltage cap without degradation issue.
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QUOTE(glamour @ Feb 28 2012, 08:04 PM)
Should wait for ivy bridge or just upgrade to current i5?
So confused and can't make my decision
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if u cant wait, buy a Z68 mobo, put in a Pentium G sandy bridge, use it first and wait Ivy bridge out. Pentium G is more than enough for everyday stuff even gaming.
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post Mar 2 2012, 12:12 PM

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Unlike the extreme7, this one still have bad layout for triple SLI. the second card is cramped with no spacing if a third card is installed.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 8 2012, 07:18 AM)
nice looking? that's almost the ugliest Z77 board ever seen so far.  shakehead.gif
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I think it will much more useful if the entire thermal Armor is actually use Metal/aluminium and have direct contact with the heatsink on South bridge + VRM area. Making the whole armor a heatsink.

I wonder why asus didnt think of this. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 10 2012, 07:43 AM)
The tinted 24pin PSU socket is sexy. Especially good for cable management. drool.gif

but still they fail to also do it on the 2x8pin AUX CPU +12v socket. doh.gif

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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 20 2012, 08:37 AM)
I doubt 8GB module will only cost twice of 4GB ones. Its still hard to find in local retail shop & expensive. I am still waiting to them to cost ~RM120 per stick(about 2x of 4GB) so I can slot 2 more stick in to make it 24GB(8GB+16GB) RAM to run RAM drive.
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post Mar 22 2012, 02:30 PM

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5.77GHz @ 1.0v vcore? lol sure no photochop? shocking.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 06:26 PM

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lol ok, if really ivy can reach 5.7 @ 1.0v I would have jump high enough and hit my celling. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cybersans @ Mar 23 2012, 12:44 PM)
*SIGH*  sad.gif

it only can be drop down to 1.6GHz and not 1.2GHz.

it still high and not "speed-step" enough.
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I think thats as low as the architecture can do. It is not like AMD bulldozer that can shutdown the entire module on low load situation.

What I am really disappointing is instead of retaining 95w and clocking higher stock clock, Intel went for 77w. Lame....Overall thats the only complain I have, then may be the improvement on the turbo core is still quite limited.

or may be the offset vcore thing. I really dont line the way Intel design the offset vcore, they should have allow user to specify minimum vcore for idle, and max vcore for load, then let the CPU decide the clock rate base on TDP set by the user.

Currently the Sandy bridge is plunge by too low vcore on idle if u use Offset to OC.

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post Mar 27 2012, 09:43 AM

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its a Z68 system, it does not have the Sata prob with P67. Why bother worry so much?
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post Apr 5 2012, 12:24 PM

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I personaly think z77 sabertooth is not as good as those p67/x79. it is ugly as hell compared to P67. and the fan they use is 35mm. This size is far less common vs the 50mm used in p67, 40mm used in x79. I still cannot bring why cant they make 40mm. it is far more common to get a replacement of fan should the fan fail or getting a better fan.
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post Apr 13 2012, 01:56 PM

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new process + 3D transistor, I wouldnt be surprise they didnt mess up a bit.

btw, base on Intel CPU launch history. the 3770K might not be the top end Ivy. Its like almost everytime after first batch launch, Intel got at least another 1 higher. 2700K vs 2600K, 990x vs 980x, i7 975 vs 960, 880 vs 870, qx9650 vs qx9770, qx6850 vs qx6800

May be in 6 months time we see 3790K. brows.gif
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Apr 13 2012, 11:15 PM)
I'm not surprised if IB had a little problem with temps. Probably people were so surprised that SB clocked well that they would come to expect it to progress to even higher with every generation. It can be due to the process still in its early stage and could improve when Haswell comes out, that is if there are people willing to bet on waiting for another year. Have yet to consider the fact that the die is actually smaller with IB and less surface area for heat to dissipate and the increase in power density of the chip. If you're getting IB, your best bet is to stick to 4.5GHz or less, 4.6GHz possible and near or less than 1.3V should be quite safe provided that you have a beefy cooler like the Noctua NH-D14 or similar.
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Probably the thing will have fix by another Ivy stepping by end of the year when Intel mastered the new process. Either that or Intel too lazy to bother to fix with it since no competition(its a posibility I cant rule out given to AMD sucky now) and move the "FIX" to haswell directly. sweat.gif Hopefully not.

Otherwise my hope of getting a faster version of 3770K is going to be very slim. (2700K version of 3770K like 2600K)

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Apr 14 2012, 07:34 PM)
I don't think there is anything more to be mastered with their Trigate. It has existed with them for nearly 10 years, since 2002. They could have ironed out the issues during that time period and the heat might just be an issue that we would have to accept. As for Haswell, it would definitely be a lot better, according to my sources. It sounds like I'm stating the obvious but Haswell should improve but I'm not quite sure what they could do in a year. I'm already impressed with the fact that Intel is the first fab to actually do a production ready 22nm model while others are still struggling with 28nm.

I regard 4.5GHz to be the most common frequency that people would be able to reach with SB, anything extra is pure luck or you're willing to compromise lifespan for a few hundred extra MHz. As for 4.5GHz IB, it should have better results than a 4.5GHz SB. A 4.6GHz Core i5 3570K should have similar performance as a 4.9GHz Core i5 2500K, so I think a new IB based rig or upgrade to from SB is good provided that you have a SB that doesn't do well above 4.5GHz and you have some decent cooling.
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I am think I am going to sit this out and wait near Haswell launch and grab the fastest 1155 CPU. Since I am using 2500K I need the biggest performance gap I can get to justify the CPU upgrade.

Base on the history of Intel launching their new CPU. Every new CPU architecture have at least 1 faster version after the first batch. So I wouldnt rule out there is at least 1 model faster than 3770K. unless the recent sucky AMD change the Intel.

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