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pasquinel
post Dec 16 2010, 06:53 PM

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Sorry for this change in topic but my search on these threads turned up nothing.

Anyone knows where I can buy a suit cover? My current one is about 4 ft in length and doesn't fit in my wardrobe.

Cheers!
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post Dec 28 2010, 06:08 PM

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Sartorial purists will be baying for blood. But I admire this man's courage, which is not born of ignorance.
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post Jan 3 2011, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jan 1 2011, 01:29 AM)
2010 has been an incredible year for me clotheswise. In no other year have I leant more about clothes, and in no other year have I seen such an advancement in the tailoring arts in the Klang Valley.

This year saw the first documented fully canvassed jacket made in Malaysia, by Malaysian craftspeople, in recent decades. This year brought forth the first documented non-fused collar and cuffs. It also saw, for probably the first time, customers buying English shirting fabrics themselves and bringing them to the tailor instead of having to rely on heavily marked-up house fabrics of uncertain origin and dubious quality.

And in no other year has this forum, and especially this thread, seen such rigorous and thoughtful exchange of ideas and information on classic menswear (if you ignore the gay bits). I know for a fact that the exchanges here have influenced the bespeaking behaviour of more people than most of us can imagine. The majority of those who read these pages remain silent. But they act on the information. I know they use the information here because when I visit my tailor I see shirts being made using the same MOP buttons from the haberdasher I recommended. I know because many people now bring their own cloths to the tailor. Their own smoked MOP buttons from Hwa Seng. Even, in two cases, their own buttonhole twists.

This thread started life with people asking about individual tailors. "Has anyone used such-and-such?" Now, total newbies are asking, "I want my blazer to have natural shoulders. Who can make it?" This is a major leap in sophistication for any customer base.

There are, however, much unexplored territory still. The DB is still a rare animal. The single button SB is also rarely asked for. Almost nobody apart from the Tan Sri and I have patch pockets. People are still too clueless to ask for quarter lining. People haven't wisened up to the comforts of tropical weaves, of fresco, of mohair, and of especial loss to them, linen -- the oldest of fibers used by man.

But surely these will come in 2011.
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Yes, I got my crash course in suits from trawling this thread and the occasional foray into SF for close to 2 weeks before I commissioned my first ever bespoke suit jacket. The only other suit jacket that I'd ever owned was some OTR number that I purchased some ten years ago which resembles a sack with sleeves.

Yes, I'm still a micro-timer, but one with a nice IMO suit jacket. The original intention was to get a suit jacket, but I went back to have a pair of pants done too with the same fabric as I thought,"Why the hell not?"
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post Jan 14 2011, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Grimm @ Jan 13 2011, 10:27 PM)
Anyone of you here, have your suits with pick stitching?

From what I've digested, there are mixed views on it. What are the views of users from this thread I wonder?
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I'm torn between thinking it looks a million bucks (which is what it probably costs) and is it really necessary? Unless you're dining with the Queen. In which case, you would outshine her. And Prince Charles.

But what do I know, I'm a micro-timer.
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post Jan 16 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jan 14 2011, 09:57 PM)
You mean this? A million bucks?

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Well pick stitching is a RM50 option at most tailors (unless it's Bespudded). But they always do it with a thread the same colour as the suit, which makes the RM50 you invested barely visible. Ask them to do it in a bright coloured thread, like orange or red or white to make it more obvious your suit is pick stitched. Also ask them them to make it very visible with sticthes 2-3mm long. I believe Mansoor at Granoff is the expert at such things as well as bright paisley linings, contrast buttonholes and other things that many bespeakers seem to hold dear.

You don't want your suit to look like mine which, though pick stitched, hardly looks as such. Why go to the trouble if it is not visible?

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And BTW, you would never be allowed to dine with the Queen in something like that. Dinner jackets were invented for that purpose.
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RM50 only for all that handiwork? That's a pretty good deal, I have to say.
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post Feb 20 2011, 05:50 PM

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Has anyone had any experience with Thai bespoke tailors? I don't mean the cheap 24 hr delivery tailors but the more reputable ones like Savile Row Fashion or New Royal Fashions.
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post Feb 27 2011, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(bloke1 @ Feb 27 2011, 03:48 PM)
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Potential customers will be arriving in droves at Lord's. NOT!
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post Feb 28 2011, 08:32 PM

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My first bespoke. My first suit really, gift to self for Xmas.
Unbranded wool, fused, non-working cuffs. Patch pockets, cos it reminded me of my 13-year old off-the-rack blazer gathering dust in the closet.

Made the jacket first, to be worn with jeans and thrown over a t-shirt. Hence the slightly long sleeves.
Made the pants as an afterthought. So that I would finally have a complete suit.

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post Mar 1 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(bloke1 @ Mar 1 2011, 10:01 AM)
^Looks really bad
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Care to explain why? Maybe there is something I can do to fix it.
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post Mar 1 2011, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 1 2011, 05:50 PM)
Maybe its the colour + the lighting?
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Perhaps. Shot under yellow light then desaturated it as close as is possible to natural fabric colour.
Will shoot outdoor to depict actual fabric colour.
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post Mar 1 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 1 2011, 08:26 PM)
Is the fabric very thin? It looks like a very thin fabric. One should generally avoid thin fabrics.
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Yes, the fabric is rather thin. Are the issues with drape?
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post Mar 2 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 2 2011, 12:53 PM)
There are many issues. The colour (mid brown? seriously?), the thinness of the fabric, the silhouette (shoulders are convex, lapels are too thin, too little waisting, quarters are closed), the fit (back balance on both jacket and trousers, sleeve rotation), and the way the patch pocket seam coincides with the front dart (they shouldn't).

But the two major problems are the colour and the thinness of the fabric.
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The actual colour is closer to this. But as they say, one man's meat is another man's daughter.

All else agreed. Asked for open quarters, but on my fitting it reverted to tailor's default closed quarters. My fault for not putting my foot down.
A fitting can be quite a daunting affair for the noob. The closed quarters gives me the appearance of having a tummy. And the way the fabric falls exacerbates that.

Having said that, I'm not entirely unhappy with the suit, this being the first and all. Hopefully, the next one will be better.
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post Mar 2 2011, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 2 2011, 06:48 PM)
Well.... you dont wanna see my first suit made nearly 15 years ago tongue.gif

Anyway, mind sharing which tailor worked on your suit?
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Bespoked. I'm not gonna write them off just yet cos I know it takes time to build a relationship with your tailor.

The original intention was just to make a blazer and to be fair, Jerrick gave me the options of going for slimmer cut/conventional cut,
more waisting/less waisting, longer sleeves/shorter sleeves etc. based on what I would be wearing the blazer with most ie. tshirt/long-sleeved shirt
and jeans, khakis and whatnot. His suggestion was to not go too fitting, less I look bottom heavy when I wear looser pants.

I chose to go down this road.

The trousers, I went back to get it made 3 weeks after I got the blazer.

But in terms of the finishing, I'll leave that to the more experienced bespeakers to judge.
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post Mar 4 2011, 09:37 AM

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Saw this ad on the star online today.

http://www.indochino.com/

Apparently backed by former Yahoo CEO.
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post Mar 5 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ad Hominem @ Mar 5 2011, 02:51 AM)
How many suits have you made with ah loke? We need to have more fit pics of suits from ah loke!
from the front pasquinel's jacket isn't that bad.

back has some issues. back sleeve bunching (sleeve pitch) and some pulls on the upper back (diagonal, from upper left to lower right) - probably due to his dropped right shoulder (?) and that larger bunching on right-midsection. shoulders are supposed to be straight (or concave...).

maybe kotmj or bloke1 can add, or you could post on SF to get feedback (hopefully from tailors preferably...)
@pasquinel - on your next commission, in addition to all the issues highlighted , tell him you want your dropped shoulder to be compensated not through padding, but through differently cut right and left panels (courtesy of SF):

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show him the pic, and tell him its non-negotiable  tongue.gif

by the way, how much did you pay for the suit?
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Thanks for the tip. I paid a little below 2k.
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:09 AM

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Suits for Mad Men.

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post Apr 5 2011, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(deriku @ Apr 5 2011, 01:01 AM)
My latest commission, a 3 piece in midnight navy. Cloth acquired from Howard on eBay, tailor is the one who had the FC piece on display. His fittings are a notch above other tailors here (many who do not have the most basic sense of fit), perhaps on par with Ah Loke.

I may get an FC from him next if budget permits..

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Looks good.
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post Apr 6 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(kneok @ Apr 6 2011, 12:14 PM)
deriku mind sharing the tailor you did that suit? i have scrolled through a couple of pages, couldn't find anything. lol
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Yes please. Especially hard to find on SF.
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(deriku @ Apr 6 2011, 01:53 PM)
Sorry guys, this tailor is located in Beijing, so unless you're planning a trip here...
I think he does accept mail orders, so if you're really interested please drop me a pm.

A rough calculation shows that you would be able to cover your flight ticket from KL if you're making 4 suits or more biggrin.gif
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Ahh..that figures. That suit surpasses anything I've seen on this forum.
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post Apr 7 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(diversity @ Apr 7 2011, 02:32 AM)
why never black? am curious when I was browsing through the pages
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From what I've read repeatedly from this forum and the sifus and also SF, a black suit is commonly referred to as the funeral suit. Also black shows a lack of imagination on the bespoker's part. Fabrics come in a gazillion colours, so why choose black? Also, black is so commonly available off the rack.

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