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ken3230
post Apr 26 2010, 08:23 PM

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Is there is someone here paint their GUNPLA with marker ?
i have been using Gundam marker silver but its outcome is not satisfly
the color look more like gray not shinny enough
any other marker (no need to be gundam marker) can bring out chrome or at least shinny silver ? thx
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post Apr 26 2010, 10:02 PM

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ya but so far onli can afford marker cry.gif
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post Apr 28 2010, 12:39 PM

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wat different softeren n settle
which i should use for water slide decal
thx for answer
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post Apr 28 2010, 08:46 PM

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cant realy understand hmm.gif
hear tis b4
settler use on flat surface
softerner use on like "longkang" surface
izit true ?? hmm.gif

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post Apr 28 2010, 09:09 PM

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so u guy use softerner more than settler ??
or juz use softerner
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post Apr 28 2010, 09:28 PM

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if i m using water slide decal ?
wat do u mean by "silvering"
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post Apr 28 2010, 09:48 PM

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so both get the same result but softerner got extra function (use on longkang surface) ??

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post Apr 28 2010, 10:44 PM

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hm...since i not going to paint my whole GUNPLA glossy
so does tat mean i should use settler
another question normaly top coat will tahan how long ?
enough for 2 MG kits ?
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post Apr 29 2010, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(zieraq @ Apr 29 2010, 08:24 AM)
using setter will create silvering problems. I never use it. always use softer even on flat surface. if not use softer the decal will have wrinkle problem most of the time.
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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Apr 29 2010, 10:30 AM)
guys.. for those who still been confusing over the usage of Mr. mark softer and setter, let me say one more final comment.

Both Mr. Mark softer and mark setter are meant for troublesome water-slide decal application.
Basically IF YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEM with your water slide decal, don't trouble yourself getting it and get confuse over the usage different between the two.
All new water slide decal shall work nicely if applied properly WITHOUT Mr. Mark softer or setter.

PROBLEMATIC DECALS:
1) decals fail to adhere or keep lifting up after drying = Mark setter
2) decals fail to conform to complicated surface (raise area, panel line, hole, etc) = Mark softer

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If you got silvering(patches that looks like mini bubble trap beneath decal), more likely the surface is matt/uneven/not gloss.
Make sure surface is always gloss and not matt before decal application.

NOTE:
Mark Softer is more potent and may cause your water slide decal to WRINKLE. This is NORMAL. Just leave Mark softer to do its job once applied, never touch until it's fully dried.
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thx for the advise notworthy.gif
how about the top coat
wonder 1 bottle top coat enough for my sinanju n unicorn sweat.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:26 PM

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http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/871...k_fit/index.htm

anyone here using tis ?
recomended by the shopkeeper doh.gif
dunno izit realy gud as he said rclxub.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 05:54 PM

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lol the shopkeeper said it was a "combine" of settler n softerner
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post May 26 2010, 04:46 PM

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any diff btw oil base and water base flat top coat ?
does it mean if i use
water base color -> water base top coat
oil base color -> oil base top coat
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post May 27 2010, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(inquisytor @ May 27 2010, 09:30 AM)
not necessary that u use water base color you have to use water base coat, or oil base color oil base coat.

But just for safety sake, if your color is water base (i.e arcrylic), then it's best you use back water base coat. But if your color is oil base, then no different which one u use.

One more thing to consider is what you want to do after you coat. If you are not doing anything after coat, then again no different what coat u use. But if you plan to do a wash , dry brushing etc. then it's better you use oil base coat.

I'm toking about spray can topcoat. But the theory applies to bottle type oso lah.
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thx

another question notworthy.gif how u guys know the coat enough
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post May 28 2010, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ May 27 2010, 06:25 PM)
If it's Flat coat, it'll be obvious...
min 1 time, max 2-3 times enough.... more than that is dangerous..
if you wanna try, try it on a plastic spoon, you can see the difference
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lol then me last time use my action base to spray in dangerous d rclxub.gif
1 time mean press and swing 1 time ?

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post May 9 2011, 02:45 AM

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gonna try my 1st panel wash
just a few question to make sure wont ruin my kit notworthy.gif
its better to use enamel thinner to thin down the enamel for panel line
and use zippo to clear the part
can i use zippo for both which mean to thin to the paint to panel line and clean it
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post May 9 2011, 05:28 PM

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so it is no good to use panel wash on bare plastic ?
dun hav gloss top coat doh.gif
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post May 9 2011, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(lfcreds91 @ May 9 2011, 05:34 PM)
bare plastic can la..........

he means gloss coat on painted gunpla's......

also, try with excess plastic 1st, and use ZIPPO only.......

last i tried with some other brand, end up plastic become brittle and broke severel pieces.
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QUOTE(shauno @ May 9 2011, 06:36 PM)
yup. if its unpainted plastic, use modelling thinner also can la.. only reason why people use enamel paints is cos of the different solvent. the most popular paints for painting is lacquer paints. in terms of strength, lacquer> enamel, therefore, a solvent for enamel won't react with the base lacquer paint.

if you got no paint (bare plastic) who cares about the base coat? just as long as you don't use industrial thinner (myky say can use, but i don't dare)
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tongue.gif My bad, and thx for all the help
1 last thing is normaly how much a bottle of paint, RM10 ? hmm.gif
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post May 10 2011, 12:49 AM

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sorry for bugging u guys so many question
forget to ask the ratio of paint and zippo
1:1 ?

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