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post Apr 27 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ayam-man @ Apr 26 2010, 10:11 PM)
Hi guys, anyone know where still got sell tamiya paint and chrome stickers? I have used Mr. Color but faced a big problem. Thanks smile.gif
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You can try AFHobby. There got alot of Tamiya colors and Gaia Notes colors also. Else you can try Hobby HQ, although they don't carry Tamiya anymore, but they have humbrol (another color brand).


Added on April 27, 2010, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Apr 27 2010, 01:44 PM)
i also have nooby quest

1. 1st step is primer right? going for flat look
After you sand down all your nub marks, next would be primer. Doesn't really matter if you going for flat or gloss. Primer is actually quite optional, if you are on a budget, you can skip this step. Priming helps your paint to stick better, and it also provide a coat of uniform colors to paint on so you won't end up with different toning. (exp : if you paint red on red plastic, it looks very red, if you paint red on black plastic, it will look abit darker red. Since our plamo kits comes in different color plastic, priming will make all the plastic same color.)

2. after prime leave to dry till when?
Preferably a day or more if weather is good.

3. once dried start painting right? * is it paint in runner or we cut from runner ?how long do i wait til dried?
My advice is to cut out then paint. If you paint on runner, after you cut, you will need to touch up. Double work. Paint dries pretty fast (referring to Mr. Color paint), if you hand paint, it probably will dry in about an hour, airbrush in about 30 minutes. But still it depends on how much thinner you use. Preferably, leave it overnight just to be safe.

4. any links or guide to masking ? i sucked at it.messed up my destiny
to mask edges, cut your masking tape into small pieces or strip, then mask little bit by little bit. For large area, just cut a piece out and stick on to it. You can also stick a big piece of masking tape on to a part, then use you finger nail or some blunt object to press on the edges to create a line, then use hobby knife to gently slice of the extra tapes. Strongly advice to use ONLY tamiya masking tape. Reason? google it tongue.gif

4. im using lacquer. so any good formular to combine with the thineer lacquer or is it recommend mr levelling thinner? n hw much paint do i need to take from the bottle?
Sigh, this has been answered 2 million times. There's no exact measurement to  thinning. My ratio of paint to thinner is 1:2 or 1:3, depends on how thin I want the color to be. If airbrushing, prefer to thin it ard 1:3 so that it won't dry so fast on mid air during spraying, and wont clog your nozzle oso. If you are hand painting, suggest to get retarder also, so that you paint will dry much slower, thus providing more time for your to slowly paint.

5. after this panel line right? is it recommend using gundam marker? ( wont it be messy coz cnt rub off excess) or should i use the thinner n pmarker trick.saw at google. but he tried on plastic.not sure.heres link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-n5-urZKIs
Topcoat first, then panel line. Panel line can be rub of with hobby thinner or surgical alcohol. use a tissue or cutton butt to gently wipe of excess line.
The video shows a wash method. Which is far more faster and easier and time saving method than using panel line marker. The video explains it all. Go ahead and try it. biggrin.gif


6. after this is top coat. and thats it right? ( mr surfacer 1000)
Top coat > panel line > top coat again. P/S : mr surfacer 1000 is NOT a top coat. I dunno why you bracket it here :S

7. would u guys recommend painting or spray can the gundam? thanks
Spray can can be very hard to control. Hand painting can create alot of brush stroke if you not good at it. Big area can spray can, small area can hand brush. Practice makes perfect.

8. oh and i tried painting before.so many brushstrokes.whats wrg? sad.gif doesnt look neat
ive googled alot oledi.il post this in this forum n painting etc
Could be alot of reason, maybe your paint not thin enough, maybe your brush too hard. Hand painting takes alot of practice. If you going to do hand painting, try doing it layer by layer, slowly build up the coverage.

tq ppl smile.gif gonna start soon so just need tips
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post Apr 29 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Apr 29 2010, 05:24 PM)
tutorial to Start GunPla-ing
i noticed that the thread doesn't have anything on brush + hand painting sweat.gif
need a sifu to add sumthing there. since im not a pro myself. & also most of the sifu here is upgraded to airbrush sweat.gif
for example: what brush to use? what thinner brand to remove the paint from brush & the dish?

as far as my experience goes. factory thinner on the mr. hobby paints = instant peel off (literally) sweat.gif  but not my brush as the paint still have some stick on it. i even used my fingernails to remove them.(i think i might be damaging the brush instead)

hobby thinner = lighten the color, diluting the paint slowly from the brush. but still use quite a lot of volume to fully remove the paint from the brush. i even tried using hobby thinner on a dish, dip the brush in & rub it with my fingers. then i will need to do this 2 - 3 times to get the paint fully out from the brush.

is what im doing wrong? sweat.gif
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If you got good budget, get yourself a bottle of Mr. Tool Cleaner. Expensive but effective.
Alternative, what I do is get a bottle of industrial cleaner. RM2 for a 500ml bottle ^^ Pour into a small bowl, the soak your brush into it. Stir it abit. Be gentle not to spoil the brush. Then run your brush over running tap water. This should remove most of the paint. Don;t expect to remove all the paint, that's not very possible. Your brush will still look stain after this.

If you are cleaning it right after you use, and you are using lacquer paint, normal water can clean de. THe paint will become rubbery once it touch water. Then u can peel the paint off.

Just remember to clean your brush right after using, dun be lazy like me and leave the brush so long until the paint all harden. tongue.gif But even after the paint harden, the brush still can be clean using the above mention method.
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:46 PM

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^ The descirption sounds like Mr. Mark Softener. I assume it's the same thing, just different brand.


Added on April 30, 2010, 3:48 pm
QUOTE(stanleysum @ Apr 29 2010, 06:06 PM)
hi guys. i'm thinking of building my gundam with below method. (no painting)

1. panel line + decal STRAIGHT FROM THE RUNNER << Dun decal first, you might accidentally spoil the decal during assembly process
2. top coat (flat for my case) <<  you dun really need this, but you can apply a thin layer to protect you panel line
3. cut out from the runner and trim
4. assemble
5. final topcoat (flat for my case again)

haven't try the method yet but will buy a cheap HG for experiment  tongue.gif  Hope some sifu can give me some guide. thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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post May 2 2010, 11:55 AM

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^Did you shake the marker well first before using?
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post May 2 2010, 06:59 PM

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^hmm ... this don't really hapen to me. I had some markers too for touch up purpose ... usually after i shake it it's okay. Sorry, no solution here from me >_<
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post May 3 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Jetpeh @ May 3 2010, 04:42 PM)
Hi Guys,

I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get the Ic socket in Penang? Been looking for it but most shops don't have or don't even know what is is...

http://www.ghostofzeon.com/diy/thrusters/smallthrust.html

Any help appreciated.

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I've search quite a few electronics shop and so far I only manage to find 1 shop at pasar road (KL) which still have stocks for this. Good luck in getting this in penang thou.
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post May 5 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jetpeh @ May 4 2010, 12:08 PM)
Hi Inquisytor,

Thanks for the lead. Do you have the name of the shop so that I can get my Kl colleague to buy for me.

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I dunno the name of the shop. But it's located at the end of the street. A shops that sells alot of electronics component (but all the shop there sells more or less the same thing tongue.gif).
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post May 5 2010, 09:35 PM

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Never ever use flat topcoat during and right after rain. Confirm cause frosting. Do it only on a nice sunny day biggrin.gif
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post May 8 2010, 06:48 PM

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^ shuden this be discuss in the gundam & mecha forum instead sweat.gif
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post May 9 2010, 04:53 PM

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^ If you are planning to use it for wash technique, then you will need to thin it. Enamel can be thin with lighter fluid, enamel hobby thinner, or art use oil paint thinner.

Best choice is still hobby thinner cos it's purer in terms of chemical content. Thus the chemical reaction with the paint is better. Lighter fluid might be bad if you use those cheap quality ones, just go for Zippo brand, shud be fine.
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post May 13 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ May 12 2010, 12:55 AM)
That's a swirl result from the injection. Sand it a little + top coat might helps reduce, if not eliminate the swirl. Best option would be to paint it.

Everybody's kit has this too, so it's not just yours. Don't worry too much.  laugh.gif


Added on May 12, 2010, 11:05 amI've tried mixing water (RO) into my existing paint mixture. The paint doesn't seem to run along the groove anymore. I think still need to dissolve the paint in thinner so it would break the surface tension of the paint, rather than using water mixture.

Oh ya, say bye bye to my paintbrush as well. lol

Ended up lining the rest of the parts with my marker, which was quite thick. sad.gif
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ACtually there's another method. You can try using real touch marker. Just draw on the panel line (it's very thick), then clean it up using a cotton bud with some thinner. Use toothpick for hard to reach places. Else if you got budget, go get the mr. hobby or tomiya cotton bud sharp type.


Added on May 13, 2010, 1:47 am
QUOTE(stanleysum @ May 13 2010, 01:32 AM)
AFHobby is selling Copic Marker for panel lining which is 0.03/0.02 compare to Gundam Marker 0.3. i guess is quite thin and i am planning to buy it once their stock arrive next week biggrin.gif together with some enamel paint and enamel thinner too
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Copic marker has a very weak head. Be very careful not to apply too much pressure while you doing panel line.

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post May 13 2010, 03:30 PM

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Ray, it's 2 million and 1 times already lor ^^
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post May 19 2010, 08:18 PM

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^ Drill holder ... It's pin vice bro
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post May 25 2010, 11:26 AM

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Can get the admin to move it? I kinda lazy wanna upload all the images again tongue.gif If cannot then I'll do it later tonite.
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post May 26 2010, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Farenhei147 @ May 26 2010, 03:33 PM)
Oh ya, I wanna ask. Is a flip pencil knife would be a good replacement for Plastic Knife? *the one you use and throw away*

I wonder how sharp is the plastic knife, since I've been using the flip pencil knife for quite a while.
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What's a "flip pencil knife"???
Plastic knife as in those P knife?
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post May 27 2010, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(ken3230 @ May 26 2010, 04:46 PM)
any diff btw oil base and water base flat top coat ?
does it mean if i use
water base color -> water base top coat
oil base color -> oil base top coat
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not necessary that u use water base color you have to use water base coat, or oil base color oil base coat.

But just for safety sake, if your color is water base (i.e arcrylic), then it's best you use back water base coat. But if your color is oil base, then no different which one u use.

One more thing to consider is what you want to do after you coat. If you are not doing anything after coat, then again no different what coat u use. But if you plan to do a wash , dry brushing etc. then it's better you use oil base coat.

I'm toking about spray can topcoat. But the theory applies to bottle type oso lah.

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post Jun 19 2010, 08:01 AM

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Once the paint dry ... it wont be sticky anymore.
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post Jun 23 2010, 09:37 PM

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^ You can go to art shop and look for 000 brush or 00 brush ... those brush size are thin enuff.

If budget permits, you can buy a tamiya think brush from hobby shop.
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post Jun 24 2010, 12:06 AM

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00 or 000 brush is actually good enuff for panel lining.
Tamiya has alot of brushes. The one in the picture actually very costly. It's up to your budget. For me, a RM1.50 fable castel brush is good enuff.
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^woa ... great tuts there. thanks alot.

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