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 Model Kits/Toys Painting, Building, Modding Thread, v3

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orestes
post Apr 29 2010, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(stanleysum @ Apr 29 2010, 06:06 PM)
hi guys. i'm thinking of building my gundam with below method. (no painting)

1. panel line + decal STRAIGHT FROM THE RUNNER
2. top coat (flat for my case)
3. cut out from the runner and trim
4. assemble
5. final topcoat (flat for my case again)

haven't try the method yet but will buy a cheap HG for experiment  tongue.gif  Hope some sifu can give me some guide. thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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just like how i did ... laugh.gif

amateur like us, just straight away build laa...
but if you want a clean built, have a sandpaper and filer.. to smoothen the surface and nubs...
get a few color markers also; good for touch ups
then build everything carefully ... read the manual closely ..
you will have a nice result ..

the top coat is a plus ... flat is always recommendable ... gloss or semi gloss not suitable for gundams ... the shines doesnt appeal on gundams..
inquisytor
post Apr 29 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Apr 29 2010, 05:24 PM)
tutorial to Start GunPla-ing
i noticed that the thread doesn't have anything on brush + hand painting sweat.gif
need a sifu to add sumthing there. since im not a pro myself. & also most of the sifu here is upgraded to airbrush sweat.gif
for example: what brush to use? what thinner brand to remove the paint from brush & the dish?

as far as my experience goes. factory thinner on the mr. hobby paints = instant peel off (literally) sweat.gif  but not my brush as the paint still have some stick on it. i even used my fingernails to remove them.(i think i might be damaging the brush instead)

hobby thinner = lighten the color, diluting the paint slowly from the brush. but still use quite a lot of volume to fully remove the paint from the brush. i even tried using hobby thinner on a dish, dip the brush in & rub it with my fingers. then i will need to do this 2 - 3 times to get the paint fully out from the brush.

is what im doing wrong? sweat.gif
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If you got good budget, get yourself a bottle of Mr. Tool Cleaner. Expensive but effective.
Alternative, what I do is get a bottle of industrial cleaner. RM2 for a 500ml bottle ^^ Pour into a small bowl, the soak your brush into it. Stir it abit. Be gentle not to spoil the brush. Then run your brush over running tap water. This should remove most of the paint. Don;t expect to remove all the paint, that's not very possible. Your brush will still look stain after this.

If you are cleaning it right after you use, and you are using lacquer paint, normal water can clean de. THe paint will become rubbery once it touch water. Then u can peel the paint off.

Just remember to clean your brush right after using, dun be lazy like me and leave the brush so long until the paint all harden. tongue.gif But even after the paint harden, the brush still can be clean using the above mention method.
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:26 PM

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http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/871...k_fit/index.htm

anyone here using tis ?
recomended by the shopkeeper doh.gif
dunno izit realy gud as he said rclxub.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:46 PM

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^ The descirption sounds like Mr. Mark Softener. I assume it's the same thing, just different brand.


Added on April 30, 2010, 3:48 pm
QUOTE(stanleysum @ Apr 29 2010, 06:06 PM)
hi guys. i'm thinking of building my gundam with below method. (no painting)

1. panel line + decal STRAIGHT FROM THE RUNNER << Dun decal first, you might accidentally spoil the decal during assembly process
2. top coat (flat for my case) <<  you dun really need this, but you can apply a thin layer to protect you panel line
3. cut out from the runner and trim
4. assemble
5. final topcoat (flat for my case again)

haven't try the method yet but will buy a cheap HG for experiment  tongue.gif  Hope some sifu can give me some guide. thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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This post has been edited by inquisytor: Apr 30 2010, 03:48 PM
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post Apr 30 2010, 04:46 PM

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bro inquisytor

your explanation do make sense.. i will keep that in mind.. thanks again biggrin.gif

probably i will try like this

1. panel line STRAIGHT FROM THE RUNNER
2. spray a thin layer of gloss/semi gloss coat to protect panel lining
3. cut out from the runner
4. file or sand the nub OR use design knife to trim then use gundam marker to touch up if necessary.
4. assemble and apply decal
5. final topcoat (flat for my case again)

This post has been edited by stanleysum: Apr 30 2010, 04:53 PM
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post Apr 30 2010, 05:54 PM

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lol the shopkeeper said it was a "combine" of settler n softerner
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post Apr 30 2010, 07:55 PM

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guys, where can i find these in KL area? really need it at the moment >_<;; and how much are they? Coz i got go to the hobby shops at Ceneleisure and they don't have any tongue.gif

btw, i get the idea on how to use the spray type, just spray it over. but how bout the bottle type? i don't own an airbrush, but will normal brushes work? how bout its thinner level? icon_question.gif

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This post has been edited by golbeza: Apr 30 2010, 07:59 PM
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post May 1 2010, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(golbeza @ Apr 30 2010, 07:55 PM)
guys, where can i find these in KL area? really need it at the moment >_<;; and how much are they? Coz i got go to the hobby shops at Ceneleisure and they don't have any tongue.gif

btw, i get the idea on how to use the spray type, just spray it over. but how bout the bottle type? i don't own an airbrush, but will normal brushes work? how bout its thinner level?  icon_question.gif

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i might sound very "potong stim" here.......

Resin kit is much harder to handle than injection kit (Bandai HG, MG r injection plastic kit). In addition, resin usually cause a lot more than injection kit. For now i would recommend u stick to injection kit first, cause to make a resin kit nice, in the most basic level, u need quite some tools n material.....

However, it's still up to u, it's your kit.

Anyway, for your question, i think i used to see resin primer (The first picture) in Time Machine. Go check out there. If not, go back to the shop that sell you the resin; they should carry it. Cause unlike injection kit, resin kit must be painted (unless u like your display kit too look yellow.... without any color). And painting on resin kit must be cleaned thoroughly and almost 100% must have primer to help the paint grab onto the surface.

If the shop not selling primer but just resin kit to his customer....... mebbe u can request them to help you order some primer in.


For the second picture, it's a tamiya gray surfacer/primer. U can get that from tamiya underground. For this surfacer/primer, i recommend u used Gunze/ Mr hobby's; easier to find in town. Many model shops carry it.
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post May 1 2010, 11:33 PM

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hi guys, I have two Gundam Marker Chrome Silver... When I first started to use them, they worked very well, very nice chrome and all but now when I use them they give me a VERY DARK GUNMETAL color instead! Why is this happening ???
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post May 2 2010, 11:55 AM

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^Did you shake the marker well first before using?
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post May 2 2010, 05:40 PM

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Yeah, I shaked it very well, until it flows out perfectly but it still isn't chrome silver??? D:
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post May 2 2010, 05:57 PM

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i guess those that flow out is thinner.. somehow the chrome silver must have been gone through hardening process.
this happen to those long time no use marker. especially when u put at 1 place & never touch it at all for months. happen to 1 of my marker as well.
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post May 2 2010, 06:35 PM

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sad.gif so sad... Is there a way to restore it ?
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post May 2 2010, 06:59 PM

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^hmm ... this don't really hapen to me. I had some markers too for touch up purpose ... usually after i shake it it's okay. Sorry, no solution here from me >_<
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post May 2 2010, 09:13 PM

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thanks inquisytor for your info smile.gif
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post May 2 2010, 09:19 PM

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buy new markers... or settle with its gunmetal effect...
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post May 2 2010, 09:34 PM

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Alright, thanks for the help guys, I guess I got a metallic gunmetal marker now hahaha
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post May 2 2010, 09:47 PM

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Bro maybe you ur marker reach "due date" or you have used your marker without shaking them even last time ~ Most likely the metallic flakes gone d. But, my bro last time did bought a white marker ~ only can use a little bit then only left the transparent liquid flow out ~ wasted $$
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post May 2 2010, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ayam-man @ May 2 2010, 10:47 PM)
Bro maybe you ur marker reach "due date" or you have used your marker without shaking them even last time ~ Most likely the metallic flakes gone d. But, my bro last time did bought a white marker ~ only can use a little bit then only left the transparent liquid flow out ~ wasted $$
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Same also happen to my white marker but the ball bearing suddenly stop rattling.Wonder can pour thinner into it?

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post May 2 2010, 09:52 PM

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haha bro its kinda hard open the cover, i opened one of mine till rosak d sweat.gif Super tight !

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